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Why should they be willing to fork out the cash to sponsor something they don't like, be out voted or just have the dev ignore them and rig it till he gets the results he wanted.
Glamour was always about Kate, Max wasn't a thing. There was a male mc option that was ignored after the initial release, it wasn't make but a Kate alternative; Julia's brother. After about 2 years of developing Kate he decided to infect this with Max and like any cancer it's grown out of control and is killing the host. This game isn't Glamour anymore; it's BB ver X remake, recycle.
Even when he first infected it with Max, the votes overwhelmingly went Kate's way, but he continued to force Max into the vote and remove Kate options till he finally got the justification he wanted to do max.
If I had stupid insane amounts of money... like Bill Gates, Elon Musk levels I'd pay DS to do a Max update. Where he gets mugged in an alley and stabbed and dies. Or the girls press charges against him for the hidden cameras and he goes to jail and gets shanked. Or something else so he is removed from it with zero possibility of ever returning. But who am I kidding, if I had that kind of money, I wouldn't give a shit what happens to this game.
Could it be because Kate only was making fuck all money and DS swtiched to Max to make it worth his while?
I mean if you make a product, and it's not financially viable, your two choices are drop it, or change it.
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It could be, but then as you say, you drop it or change it... you don't lie and manipulate "votes" to the get result you want.
A simple, "guy's this Kate stuff is not working, I'm going to go back to making BB". Would be far better than the shit he's done.
Of cause it doesn't. And nobody think's, guys with female avatars enjoy female MC`s more because they are sissy's*.
*(Sissy does not mean non-binary gender or trans person or less traditionally masculine or Elisabeth Amalie Eugenie von Wittelsbach, Princess of Bavaria and empress of Austria and Hungary.)
If there was actual proven manipulation of votes, yeah, that's not right.
But, assuming I'm guessing correctly (monetary gain reasons), the alternative would have been to just drop it.
I can't condone the form if cheating happened on the votes, but, it might have been what kept the game going for so long.
Has there been any proof of vote manipulation, or is that just a plausible theory?
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It was such a shame that DS abandoned BB long ago. So it's fine with me that Glamour is changing into some kind of BB Remake with much more female characters. I may guess some old fans coming from BB feel the same way as well. The problem is that DS probably make Kate's story so appealing for some of the players.
nonsence. they all look same age...about 3 hours out of packing line in guangzhou toy factory...even famous chinese plastic smell is there.
I don't get all that moaning about Kates line, they were essentially 2 separate games, which wasn't a great idea to begin with (because the work load is essentially doubled), maybe the author wanted to capture larger audience with it, but continuation and regular updates of both AND endless forks that people seem to want, bleat the workload to unmanageable levels for the budget he is working with (be it time and/or money), and then there will always be loud minority that will say that is all wrong and how the author has ruined everything (the usual behavior of the unsatisfied people these days)
IMHO the best option would be to combine the 2 lines together into "one" line (what the author might be trying to accomplish already), you play Max for a while, then the action turns towards Kate, you play that for couple in game days, then back to Max and so on and so forth (but this would require much better quest log, because the current one is much too vague and unclear, so the player can keep up with all the story lines), that way all players get to see most of the content, so the work put into it isn't "wasted", perhaps some skip options might be implemented for non-critical choices for those who aren't interested in the other line at all
and for those who complain about the purity of character of the main characters, I think you should simply stop playing while you still can, forget these games exist at all, visit a church, go to a confession and do the penance, so you can avoid corruption of your pure minds and move on with your life
IMHO the best option would be to combine the 2 lines together into "one" line (what the author might be trying to accomplish already), you play Max for a while, then the action turns towards Kate, you play that for couple in game days, then back to Max and so on and so forth (but this would require much better quest log, because the current one is much too vague and unclear, so the player can keep up with all the story lines), that way all players get to see most of the content, so the work put into it isn't "wasted", perhaps some skip options might be implemented for non-critical choices for those who aren't interested in the other line at all
and for those who complain about the purity of character of the main characters, I think you should simply stop playing while you still can, forget these games exist at all, visit a church, go to a confession and do the penance, so you can avoid corruption of your pure minds and move on with your life
That would be worse in my opinion.
You'd essentially force players to go through content they have absolutely no interest in.
I agree with your other points, trying to please as many as possible, is usually a bad idea unless you have the manpower to do it.
For small studios/indie devs, that's usually a terrible move, leading to what we're seeing on many games: low content, long time between releases, and content that a chunk of the players may not be interested in.
The same goes with "optional content", a few are saying they're fine with content being added if it's optional. The issue with that for small devs, is that the time they take to create optional content that only a fringe minority will be interested in, is not spent on content that they're actual customer base is interested in. Once again, this leads to small updates, and long times between updates.
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Glamour did not begin with 2 separate games ...
After DS abandoned BB, he started Glamour in 2018, a redo of his older abandoned (real porn) game Glamour from 2016 ( https://f95zone.to/threads/glamour-2016-v0-8-fix-5-dark-silver.1782/ ). Plans were to have a female (Kate) and a male (Alex) playable character, develop the story of the original Glamour further, have a bigger world, etc ... and have a crossover with some of the known characters from BB like Alice joining Kate's college.
However they struggled to come up with an interesting story for Alex, the promised male mc, and so they later decided to add Max with the re-written BB story (without Eric) replacing Alex. You can still see Alex in the banner on top of this page.
You don't care if you play as a male or female and you think you can fix the game? lolz. I hate to break it to you but there are more people who want the game to be Max centered and pay for that. I don't see why any of them would have to sit through that Kate crap so a minority get to see Kate fuck the guy of the week becasue he passed the ketchup.I don't get all that moaning about Kates line, they were essentially 2 separate games, which wasn't a great idea to begin with (because the work load is essentially doubled), maybe the author wanted to capture larger audience with it, but continuation and regular updates of both AND endless forks that people seem to want, bleat the workload to unmanageable levels for the budget he is working with (be it time and/or money), and then there will always be loud minority that will say that is all wrong and how the author has ruined everything (the usual behavior of the unsatisfied people these days)
IMHO the best option would be to combine the 2 lines together into "one" line (what the author might be trying to accomplish already), you play Max for a while, then the action turns towards Kate, you play that for couple in game days, then back to Max and so on and so forth (but this would require much better quest log, because the current one is much too vague and unclear, so the player can keep up with all the story lines), that way all players get to see most of the content, so the work put into it isn't "wasted", perhaps some skip options might be implemented for non-critical choices for those who aren't interested in the other line at all
and for those who complain about the purity of character of the main characters, I think you should simply stop playing while you still can, forget these games exist at all, visit a church, go to a confession and do the penance, so you can avoid corruption of your pure minds and move on with your life
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One should know what they are getting into before they subscribe and pay for the game. After you do your research as a consumer is supposed to do, you have to decide if you want to pay for a game. I know, for me, if i find out its not worth it, im not going to pay for something. If i do, then i best know what im getting into.
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that wasn't what I said, read my post again, and then read what ANGEL_KATE wrote about Kates line, I said - skip buttons for both in case you want to skip and it doesn't conflict with the line you're actually playing, but at least you have some glimpse of the events of the "other" side and they don't "feel" disconnected to the player, I for instance didn't know Max was involved in Kates line and that those events are completely missing from the Maxes side of the story, now I'm playing Kates line (struggling to be honest, because I'm not interested in most of her line at all) just to see what she was up with Max, Ann and Alice, and how it ties into Maxes side of the game
so had it been 1 story with 2 "playable" characters from the start, I wouldn't have missed few chunks of story I was interested in, kind of like one of the Halo games where you play MC for a while and then the covenant character, I don't think its bad at all, and as I said - it might be better for dev morale to feel that the work put into either forks isn't mostly wasted because only few are interested in one of them
On paper, it's not bad to swap MCs.
However, the MCs have to remain interesting to the player.
In this case, you end up having to play two MCs that have radically different interests, kinks and so on. The result being what we see now, neither side being interested in playing "the other side", in the great lines, saves a couple that don't mind.
For example, I have no interest in lesbian scenes at all (like I'm guessing most lesbians would have no interest in straight sex scenes.) If I was forced to play Kate, I'd just drop the game, because there'd be too much content I'd be forced to go through that I have no interest in.
Now, the ones more interested in the lesbian scenes, are the ones getting the shaft here, because there's not enough lesbian content on the Kate's side (I think you have a couple of scenes with the sister, and some stuff with Sophie I think.)
While on standard games, switching MCs can be a bit more open (think FPSes switching sides to see both side of the story), is usually fine, in a porn game including kinks and sexual preferences, it gets a bit more dicey