Others Abandoned Glamour [v0.57] [Dark Silver]

[manominouslyme]

That is a shame that the game had been abandoned a while back cause its a good game.

Honestly no. I don't believe it's a good game at all.
-> It has nothing new (it's a mashup of the 1st Glamour, and of Big Brother)
-> It's basically an over-repetitive Slider-Teaser, with too much grind
-> They changed the Engine midway, and fucked-up big time (this happens, but it generated too many hiccups)

Appart from that...

Alas, it's a recurring Dark Silver process. He starts things, milks too much and for too long, making his customers bore and leave, and as he only listens to paying customers, he cuts himself from the opportunity to get new ones, gets cornered in a non-sustainable bubble, then abandons the project. It's been three times already. Same MO, same ending.

Because he apparently failed to apply two basic rules of commerce :

1/ you have to grow, and to grow you have to convince new customers to pay. You don't do that by not listening to what they would pay for.

2/ You have to deliver. Milking is a balance. If you miss the target too often, fail to have substantial updates - with more than a few pics of "nothing", a ton of new bugs everytime, and possibly the obligation for players to start over - people will eventually get bored and leave. And you'll hit rock bottom.


And that's exactly what happened. The war in Ukraine was only an accelerant for this already ongoing attrition process.

 

[Nemo56]

Yeah, I played it for the renders. But the events were more repetitive than in any other game I played. Repeat the same each week and get one bonus image, yay!

But tbh I think Dark Silvers biggest mistake was that he listened to his customers too much, let THEM decide what would go into the game instead of doing his own thing. Going the full porn route early doesn't give an option for a good story. You jut find excuses for the next sex scene and that's a bad and boring VN.
And yes, I know that there was a group that wanted more Kate content, but there was also a group that wanted more Max content.

I prefer games where the makers follow their own plan and deliver something that has a concept rather than following every direction the wind blows.

 

[doccop63]

I want to try this game but the warning about it trying to download files is keeping me from doing so. Was this issue resolved before it was abandoned?

 

[Nemo56]

The files are ok. Use a download manager to prevent third party scripts on the download sites to download / install adware.

 

[gestved]

Dude had a good thing going with big brother, it was bad but at the time it was ok and he got people hooked at the characters. He decided to stop it to remake Glamour, many jumped ship and then he decided to remake big brother inside Glamour as well. Such a stupid decision and with his MO as a developer it would obviously not work long term. I'm glad I never lost time with Glamour, lost enough time with Big Brother.

The worst part is that I kinda miss the dynamic with Big Brother with the house getting slowly more corrupted, with the girls becoming nudists, and having sex everywhere in the house. He really fucked it up.

 

[Acteon]

Dude had a good thing going with big brother, it was bad but at the time it was ok and he got people hooked at the characters. He decided to stop it to remake Glamour, many jumped ship and then he decided to remake big brother inside Glamour as well. Such a stupid decision and with his MO as a developer it would obviously not work long term. I'm glad I never lost time with Glamour, lost enough time with Big Brother.

The worst part is that I kinda miss the dynamic with Big Brother with the house getting slowly more corrupted, with the girls becoming nudists, and having sex everywhere in the house. He really fucked it up.

You're right!

 

[dddwdwe]

anyone know how to complete the Big Problem quesy? I can't take shower with Ann

 

[nghuytoan1]

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sorry but only 12.52MB ?

 

[manominouslyme]

But tbh I think Dark Silvers biggest mistake was that he listened to his customers too much, let THEM decide what would go into the game instead of doing his own thing.

That's just that : he only listened to his paying customers. That's where he emprisonned himself in too small a bubble.With no way to keep track of what prospects would have paid for.

The first things he should have done was:
- opening monthly polls to everyone, regardless of payment or not
- trust the marketing rules, numbers about percentages of prospects becoming customers compared to actual customers attrition. I don't know those rules and numbers. I just know they exist. I also know it needs a full time job just to collect and aknowledge the results.


Aside from marketing rules, the big real issue here remains the lack of talent and the outdated gameplay, visuals and overall aesthetics. All the models look like rubber dolls. The Kate story is too mild and basically feels fake from A to Z and as for the Max part, well, it's a rip of BB with "arguably better" pics. What's to keep enough people to pay monthly for that ?

 

[Nemo56]

The first things he should have done was:
- opening monthly polls to everyone, regardless of payment or not
- trust the marketing rules, ...

While I respect your opinion ... Heck no!

A good writer writes his own story. F*** the market, tell your story. Customers usually don't know what they really want, they only see a small frame with the kink they want to see. Shag that girl, threesome with that one and this one, add heels in this scene, there need to be cigarettes. All this is bullshit. The focus for every good VN is on the story, the kind of scenes that are added must fit the story. DarkSilver did it the other way around, created sex scenes and wrote the story around them. The result was a chaotic mix that made no sense at all. And of course there was way too much repetitive grind.

 

[manominouslyme]

While I respect your opinion ... Heck no!

A good writer writes his own story. F*** the market, tell your story. Customers usually don't know what they really want, they only see a small frame with the kink they want to see. Shag that girl, threesome with that one and this one, add heels in this scene, there need to be cigarettes. All this is bullshit. The focus for every good VN is on the story, the kind of scenes that are added must fit the story. DarkSilver did it the other way around, created sex scenes and wrote the story around them. The result was a chaotic mix that made no sense at all. And of course there was way too much repetitive grind.

Except that's not what he did : he launched polls for paying customers and gave them what they wanted. At least "tried" to make them believe he was.There is zero authenticity or real idea in this game. At least BB had some.

Besides how many real sex scenes this Porn VN has ? After years of development ? Not enough and they're all frustratingly unsatisfactory.

The other thing is when you have no idea, and want your community to "help" you, make sure you collect all the possible ideas, and not those of the very few, fewer and fewer paying customers you keep months, after months afters months of basically "5?" images and 1 or 2 repetitive scenes per update with micro-evolutions of story, and slowmo quarters of scenes.

 

[Sir_EatsALot]

I want to try this game but the warning about it trying to download files is keeping me from doing so. Was this issue resolved before it was abandoned?

Download the game and then block the exe from firewall.

 

[doccop63]

Download the game and then block the exe from firewall.

Thanks

 

[grossegon]

thx

 

[Skazitel]

Have you heard anything about Silver? He hasn't started the fourth project yet? Which will later be abandoned

 

[markus T]

Have you heard anything about Silver? He hasn't started the fourth project yet? Which will later be abandoned

Honestly I think this one did him in. I really don't see him recovering from this mess.

 

[yusufgiti]

he its say abndoned, but are the games finished ?
do we have a incest part with the girl story ?

 

[undefiniert]

Abandoned means: unfinished.
And: no.

 

[devilnero]

Is there a translation tool?

 

[Pif paf]

Make Ann Mom Again incest patch
updated 04/24/2023

This patch reverts the game to .56

It annoys me when I map the NPC to Mom and the MC still refers to her by her first name. I made some updates so that Ann text is displayed as Mom and Max, Lisa and Alice refer to her as Mom while other people refer to her as Ann or your Mom.

To change the script replace the app.asar file under the game folder.

This mod only works on version .56

Little incest talk: Workupload

I'm working on updating my slightly more incest talk patch but it's going to be a while. If you didn't get to use my .53 patch I added a lot to the glamour game making the characters acknowledge the incest. I also tried to make Alice more like a YouTube star. The original game script is 1000 pages. Assuming half is the Max side that's 500 pages. I smoke pot while I do this so I'm not very productive.

Explanation on slightly more incest talk: https://f95zone.to/threads/glamour-v0-53-dark-silver.10579/post-9691286

examples of little incest
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Hi, i know it's abandoned already but is there any possibility that you have your private updated version maybe???? Thank you very much for any help!