Naxos

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If there was actual proven manipulation of votes, yeah, that's not right.
But, assuming I'm guessing correctly (monetary gain reasons), the alternative would have been to just drop it.

I can't condone the form if cheating happened on the votes, but, it might have been what kept the game going for so long.
Has there been any proof of vote manipulation, or is that just a plausible theory?
From what I remember it was basically adding more and more Max centred options and repeating the same choices for Max even though the Kate ones ones where wining.

Stuff like should I focus on Max, should he get more frequent updates or stick to the current ratio and keep focus on Kate and he kept changing it to make more of the vote options around max even though Kate had been winning all the votes. I could be wrong, it was a while ago.

I don't get all that moaning about Kates line, <snip>
<snip> I hate to break it to you but there are more people who want the game to be Max centered and pay for that. I don't see why any of them would have to sit through that Kate crap so a minority get to see Kate fuck the guy of the week becasue he passed the ketchup.
Imagine if you where supporting BB (the old one) and DS decided to introduce another MC and what is essentially a completely different game to BB, but just set in the same "universe". And then despite promising it won't affect BB, it won't reduce the BB content or slow down development of it, it became more and more and more about the other game, till you can barely recognise BB as it was and the story about Max, Anne, Lisa, Alice, Kira is dead and its now all about Stan and Mary and Sue and Paul and Peter. You would be pissed because the game you liked and enjoyed and supported was not the same anymore and all the promises to you about it not changing where broken. Of course if you're a fan of the new game with Stan and Mary you don't care about BB and why should you have to sit though any of that BB stuff anyway?

That's exactly what's happened here. He's taken one game, introduced another completely different game and tried to force them together.

Personally I don't really hate Max or BB, though I didn't like the original because of the NTR and stopped playing it when Eric made an appearance. This version I've never tried and probably won't ever now because I hate what it has done to a game I liked.

Also zeromike luckily the one good thing about the way it is made now, is you don't have to sit through the crap of the other MC side if you don't like it. The downside it the long wait to get updates, made worse and worse by the constant shifting of the goals.
 

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Thank you, I do totally understand most people's point like yours, and I thank you for being so cordial about your replies, that's a nice change in this forum :D

Like I said, while I disagree with the form if that's how this was done, if it's for income purposes, and trying to draw in more Max supporters to avoid cancelling yet another game, I can kinda understand why it's been done, even if I can't condone how it happened.
 
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wd1111

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While on standard games, switching MCs can be a bit more open (think FPSes switching sides to see both side of the story), is usually fine, in a porn game including kinks and sexual preferences, it gets a bit more dicey :)
I understand what you mean, hence I mentioned the necessity of the skip button if you're afraid you'll discover something new and unexpected about yourself lol

anyway, that was just my opinion about this split and at the same time shared content, I also think that devs may have come to similar conclusions as well, I don't think I'm the smartest one out there at all, but perhaps the way the core mechanics were written from the start, they were not able to implement the necessary changes to combine the stories or have interactions between them

and regarding either side of the content, perhaps someone on the team who was writing the content simply left the project, hence the lack of development or the story going one or the other way, and as you said yourself - writing both sides of this story may not be possible for one man or woman, the perspective on the world is simply too different, so they try to write what they know

anyway, I think that anyone telling something should be done either way should start EVERY such post with "I think", then follow with the idea, and preferably end with why they think that way, because generalizing and pretending they represent some unknown majority or that they know the ultimate truth is always bad and just leads to personal fights instead of discussing whether the idea is good or bad
 

IlMato

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The original plan was to have both MCs with the same story with minimal changes, rather than two storylines that only slightly touch each other. I think DS should hurry to combine both storylines into one. Also he should make dominat path for Kate. The old Glamour was a real fun game with at least some freedom, the new one has none not even the illusion of it.
 
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I understand what you mean, hence I mentioned the necessity of the skip button if you're afraid you'll discover something new and unexpected about yourself lol

anyway, that was just my opinion about this split and at the same time shared content, I also think that devs may have come to similar conclusions as well, I don't think I'm the smartest one out there at all, but perhaps the way the core mechanics were written from the start, they were not able to implement the necessary changes to combine the stories or have interactions between them

and regarding either side of the content, perhaps someone on the team who was writing the content simply left the project, hence the lack of development or the story going one or the other way, and as you said yourself - writing both sides of this story may not be possible for one man or woman, the perspective on the world is simply too different, so they try to write what they know

anyway, I think that anyone telling something should be done either way should start EVERY such post with "I think", then follow with the idea, and preferably end with why they think that way, because generalizing and pretending they represent some unknown majority or that they know the ultimate truth is always bad and just leads to personal fights instead of discussing whether the idea is good or bad
I agree with just about you said there.
On top of the issue of time consumed for contents that might not please everyone, I think that the skipping bit, makes it even worse, as you'll literally have an update with little to no content, that you'll still have to go through (or skip non stop), to get to the content you're interested in.

Personally, I think the dev should just drop either one of them, get it done as best as he can, and then do the other side, separate both games, and do them both properly. In the long run, that's about the only solution I think would end up pleasing everybody.
 

Konstantin

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Does anyone know the pool results of the patreon?
According to the results of the survey, Kate's line won. BUT!!!
We will try to release the next update 0.46 also in February. There is very little time left. Of course, the next part won't be that big. But in addition to the technical part, there will definitely be new events related to Max. But already when playing for Katya.
That is, in fact, an update for Max again:cautious:
 

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According to the results of the survey, Kate's line won. BUT!!!
We will try to release the next update 0.46 also in February. There is very little time left. Of course, the next part won't be that big. But in addition to the technical part, there will definitely be new events related to Max. But already when playing for Katya.
That is, in fact, an update for Max again:cautious:
Let's hope after update 0.46 there will be more kate content.
 

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Personally, I think the dev should just drop either one of them, get it done as best as he can, and then do the other side, separate both games, and do them both properly. In the long run, that's about the only solution I think would end up pleasing everybody.
To put it bluntly,

1) DarkSilver doesn't need to please everybody. He needs to please himself - firstly - and his Patrons;

2) Complaining people are Max's half-game haters ONLY. They aren't able to deal with the fact that DarkSilver had to merge Big Brother's story into Glamour in order to save the game and his ass;

3) Big Brother was the most popular game on F95 BY FAR, and it's more popular than glamour by far;

4) if DarkSilver didn't add Max's half-story, he would have dropped Glamour years ago and come back to a BB remake. Kate's fanboys (fangirls?) will never admit it. Never;

5) no BB's fan is complaining. Only oh-my-god-my-main-character-has-a-penis-this-is-so-gross guys are complaining. Let them be;

6) I'm totally aware that Kate's fans are going to flood me with facepalms. Are they aware that facepalms counts as likes, I wonder?

7) I'll tell you: when a Kate's update comes out I don't even take the trouble to download it.
 

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According to the results of the survey, Kate's line won. BUT!!!
We will try to release the next update 0.46 also in February. There is very little time left. Of course, the next part won't be that big. But in addition to the technical part, there will definitely be new events related to Max. But already when playing for Katya.
That is, in fact, an update for Max again:cautious:
I think I can quote Johnson Nash when I think of Silver promising anything at all:
"It's about as useful as tits on a radscorpion."

For the record, I don't hate Max's story wholesale.
What I do hate is that he's getting shoehorned into everything else.
But even more than that, the horrible imbalance of updates really rubs me up the wrong way.
 
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Ottoeight

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According to the results of the survey, Kate's line won. BUT!!!
We will try to release the next update 0.46 also in February. There is very little time left. Of course, the next part won't be that big. But in addition to the technical part, there will definitely be new events related to Max. But already when playing for Katya.
That is, in fact, an update for Max again:cautious:
0.46 is going to be Max's story. 0.47 is going to be Kate's story.
 

f96zonetrooper

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Unlikely. Rather, Kate's line will die at the end :cry:
Kate's main story was already canceled/finished : the quest for the missing girl kept at a secret bdsm club was converted to missing girl now being a consensual high class call girl.
Kate's lesbian path which was available for the first half of the game was buried by forcing Kate to have sex with the principal, Andrew and Max to progress.
The overall promise for Kate to unlock and explore all the college rules, date all the students and teachers as she likes and explore the city was also more or less abandoned. Except for the college and Max' villa, most of the city now is dead with no new content.

Kate was in fact reduced to a female PoV for the new Max story content but she has no longer her own story or agenda.
 
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