wazaa

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If that were the first time they'd messed up like this, that would be a valid excuse. However, no matter the present reality of the current shitty situation in Ukraine, it's most definitely not the first time.

Hell, for a long time people had to use a third-party fix from a member here to fix things that were broken when playing as Kate.
Offline versions were released with none of the new images, progression could be broken by unknowingly interacting with NPCs that the player shouldn't be able to do yet, but were there to be interacted with anyway.
The main problem is that you're complaining for a game you're not paying. Your issues with the game are not their problem, and they have bigger problems than you.

They made errors in the past? yes. And they will do more in the future. The game is in a beta state. It is not a real problem. The current situation excuses any errors in this release? yes. A war is a bigger problem than a porn game. So please, don't act as if the world turns around you.
 

Krugger

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Krugger I'm guessing this update does not repreve itself from the last one? I stopped playing because I could not stomach "the new world order" quest. What was done to Ann's character was too far for me to reach. And the vilification of Alicia was another redline for me.
I don't remember where I stopped, but I remember that in Kate's story I stopped at 92% in a Karen event, then I lost my save and got discouraged to continue. In Max's story it was the same, I finished all the events but I lost my save and I didn't want to play it anymore. You can see the cgs of the latest versions here ( ) and get a little idea of what's going on. Not to waste my time, I don't even play this anymore.
 

punisher2099

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I definitely gave up on playing this. Max's story is for a certain "loser" public that does not accept the reality of life. The first thing I didn't like was that made Max's story rushed, so that development of corruption that always horny me on was lost. Afterwards, everything for Max becomes relatively easy, I'm not wanting the MC to push himself to the point of making the story slow and tiresome, but damn, create a decent story, where the characters have personalities and internal and external conflicts. In Lisa's script for example, I started to hate having to read that, because I believed that DS was creating a curious and perverted Lisa personality but it seems like he kind of forced it. Instead of him playing it forward, he was "grind" a silly relationship to the point that I said to myself, I'm tired of it.

This also boils down to Ann's script, like every player who has played BB, we want to see the MC's perversity and not the other way around. To be honest, I can't even try to explain it, because the game works like that, the game throws you an advanced story, you think it's good and then you lose all that hard-on. Alice sort of playing a small part of Eric, of course, not quite that but DS putting a little mistress on her. Kira without many important scripts, is sometimes an figurant, sometimes Max's lover. This boils down to the new BB of DS, he puts Max in college (same as Alice and Kate) and makes the MC the sexiest kid in the area, because he wants to please that "loser" public out of reality. Let's say I'm wrong or you don't agree with what I said, but the story sucks.

People keep complaining about Kate's story, Kate's story ended when DS introduced Fedor and Neil, characters who didn't make any impact on the game. DS put it on just so their fans could see a sex scene with another male NPC other than Nick, because it didn't make much sense to me, because Kate takes a week or two to clean the basement to make it her room and her sister turns it into a dungeon of pleasure, with sex toys (bdsm) and so she decides to rent a room where Veronica lives and if she didn't have the rent money she could pay with her body. But let's say that Fedor is no worse than Neil and that Fedor has a more important script, but why the hell didn't DS advance the story of Kate starting her life after she left Julia's house? Poledance and striping classes were they for nothing? DS is so impressed by its audience that it makes a mess of its script, because he should have started with the college events first and then Kate would find out that Veronica was a striper dancer, and then the Kate and Veronica events would begin. Kate would start by renting a room and living with Veronica and then she would have the option of living alone in a rented residence. I confess that I find it difficult for her story to progress, because there are many things and half of them could not work out, that's why DS kept the narrative of its story stuck with Max's, because in my view, DS doesn't know what else to do.
"Reality of life?" Isn't the big argument on this site is that these are porn games/vns they're not reality and they're not real people.
 

dwalsh

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"Reality of life?" Isn't the big argument on this site is that these are porn games/vns they're not reality and they're not real people.
I'll take you up on that one. Epic Fantasy, Sci-fi and romance novels and movies are generally also not mostly about real people but the psychology of humans is that we use these mediums to squeeze more experiences into our short life spans that we otherwise will not experience and maybe (big maybe) learn something that might come in handy down the line. I will only speak for myself in this statement I can't stretch my imagination to meet the story this dev is telling. For my own reasons it's way outside my limits. It will not be for others who obviously like and support it. I think this forum gives like minded individuals the opportunity to filter out the stuff they will like from the stuff they most likely won't. So your argument may not be complete if you just stop at it's not reality and the characters are not real people. I'll meet you halfway way and say I totally believe there are people here having a hard time switching between reality and fiction but I believe (I really hope) their in the smallest minority.
 
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dwalsh

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I don't remember where I stopped, but I remember that in Kate's story I stopped at 92% in a Karen event, then I lost my save and got discouraged to continue. In Max's story it was the same, I finished all the events but I lost my save and I didn't want to play it anymore. You can see the cgs of the latest versions here ( ) and get a little idea of what's going on. Not to waste my time, I don't even play this anymore.
I took a look. Damn. Alot of potential to please both worlds gone here.
 

Raistln

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The main problem is that you're complaining for a game you're not paying. Your issues with the game are not their problem, and they have bigger problems than you.

They made errors in the past? yes. And they will do more in the future. The game is in a beta state. It is not a real problem. The current situation excuses any errors in this release? yes. A war is a bigger problem than a porn game. So please, don't act as if the world turns around you.
Ain't that a fact. Some people just don't understand when games like this are being created and released in places like this, it is so that people can play it, get to like it, express their opinions, and to help find bugs in the game so that they can improve it.
We are the beta testers. Find a bug, report it. No need to belittle the game creators because bugs were found or they don't like how a story progresses. If a person has problems testing these games because of flaws in them, they should just wait until the game is finished and released, and either buy it then or just don't play it and save themselves and everyone else the complaining right.
 
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Snugglepuff

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The main problem is that you're complaining for a game you're not paying.
By all means, go ahead and quote where I've complained.

Your issues with the game are not their problem, and they have bigger problems than you.
Those weren't my problems with the game. Those were literally problems in the game, as released.
Stop trying to white knight for them by using the shit that's been happening in Ukraine as a means of excusing prior and consistent issues. It's a fucking disgusting thing for you to do, and you should be ashamed of yourself for even attempting to do that.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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You know that the team is half Russian half Ukrainian, no? I think it is obvious they facing some issues right now. Be critical but not be hard, with them. You're getting their game for free.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I might be wrong, but isn't it the job of the coder to test his own work?
 
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dwalsh

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Ain't that a fact. Some people just don't understand when games like this are being created and released in places like this, it is so that people can play it, get to like it, express their opinions, and to help find bugs in the game so that they can improve it.
We are the beta testers. Find a bug, report it. No need to belittle the game creators because bugs were found or they don't like how a story progresses. If a person has problems testing these games because of flaws in them, they should just wait until the game is finished and released, and either buy it then or just don't play it and save themselves and everyone else the complaining right.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I might be wrong, but isn't it the job of the coder to test his own work?
That's a fair point but consider this even car and Plane manufacturers have recalls. These games are tested yes but that does not mean defects can't be found after and lets face it a lot of the games that end up here are leaked so devs can't really be held accountable for unfinished versions they have not authorised to be released to the public. Shit even phones and computers get updates almost monthly they have million dollars research teams behind them.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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That's a fair point but consider this even car and Plane manufacturers have recalls. These games are tested yes but that does not mean defects can't be found after and lets face it a lot of the games that end up here are leaked so devs can't really be held accountable for unfinished versions they have not authorised to be released to the public. Shit even phones and computers get updates almost monthly they have million dollars research teams behind them.
It seems from posts already made that if he played for twenty minutes he'd have found something.

I don't even play this game any more as:
1) updates had become ungodly tiny
2) focussed on shoving more dicks into Kate
3) pushing Kate to the side for an ungodly amount of updates (it was supposed to be 2:1 then 1:1 then 1:2, what we got was like 0:5)
4) turning the Big Brother story into a generic incest harem game

As for phones and computers being updated frequently; in some cases that's for compatibility, in others security.
 

John7776

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guys how do we find the location for the save files, esp if i want to do a complete delete and restart from fresh.

esp for the online version, for the offline found the save file in the relevant room where u save under sprite folder but for online cant seem to locate it
 

dwalsh

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It seems from posts already made that if he played for twenty minutes he'd have found something.

I don't even play this game any more as:
1) updates had become ungodly tiny
2) focussed on shoving more dicks into Kate
3) pushing Kate to the side for an ungodly amount of updates (it was supposed to be 2:1 then 1:1 then 1:2, what we got was like 0:5)
4) turning the Big Brother story into a generic incest harem game

As for phones and computers being updated frequently; in some cases that's for compatibility, in others security.
Fair point on the phones and computers. Can't argue much about the game updates either. I only ended my subscription to his project this weekend myself. I've reached the point where cut backs were needed and because I can't really recognise the project I supported anymore this was a choice that needed to be made.
 

punisher2099

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It seems from posts already made that if he played for twenty minutes he'd have found something.

I don't even play this game any more as:
1) updates had become ungodly tiny
2) focussed on shoving more dicks into Kate
3) pushing Kate to the side for an ungodly amount of updates (it was supposed to be 2:1 then 1:1 then 1:2, what we got was like 0:5)
4) turning the Big Brother story into a generic incest harem game

As for phones and computers being updated frequently; in some cases that's for compatibility, in others security.
...Don't points 2 and 4 contradict each other?
 

Raistln

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When im going to get the paint for the basement? Any idea how to find if im stuck?
As you progress some, Julia will order the paint. You have to answer the door to get it from the delivery guy, so you'll know when it gets there. Once you get it, it's just walk into the basement and click.
 
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