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mumby

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That's largely open to interpretation, but it's an indisputable fact that it was surpassed, and within its own lifetime.
So I say that there is some fact. You answer that there is some other fact. I say that your fact has nothing to do with mine, so there's no point in bringing it up. Then you claim that your fact is indisputable. Meh

Eric wasn't interesting or intriguing.
Not for you, but for me, yes.

He didn't have to abandon the game though... He could easily have made changes that made the game "Patreon friendly", and it would have been ridiculously easy to revert it via third-party means with just a text file change. Literally, that's how the mods people were making worked, including new dialogue for their mods.
I can agree with that. Definitely

It's a fact that abandoning BB severely diminished his potential for financial support. Not even an Eric-less remake of BB in the remake of Glamour brought them back.
Take the rose-tinted glasses off...
Until DS returns, it's all just hypothetical speculation. But -- yeah. I agree with your assumption that the new audience will be smaller than the previous one. The question is whether it will be enough to return to BB. However, I don't believe in a revival anyway. Cause yeah, three consecutive abandoned projects have severely damaged DS's reputation.
 
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So I say that there is some fact. You answer that there is some other fact. I say that your fact has nothing to do with mine, so there's no point in bringing it up.
A fact connected to something you said, quite literally has something to do with what you said. You cannot dismiss it so easily by claiming the it has "nothing" to do with your opinion.

You claim something incredible, with no proof whatsoever or explanation of what you mean by "quality".

Then you claim that your fact is indisputable. Meh
...Because it is.
It is a fact that BB was surpassed.

Surpassed in writing, storytelling, art, and most importantly actually being completed.

Not for you, but for me, yes.
Then you're far too easily intrigued...
 

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Hello, i change the stats in the save for cheat bu now i have a infinite dark screen when i save or load, i reinstall but the same problem, what can i do ?
 

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My quest is stuck on the mentor quest as Max, says Kira gave mom some pills, I should look into that blah blah and that lessons will be way later in night so Alice doesn't catch them. Where am I supposed to be? I tried forwarding the time in Lisa and maxs room, Moms room, and in the living room from but it doesn't seem to be triggering anything at all.

Can anyone help? So annoying how some of these quests are done
 

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Make Ann Mom Again incest patch
updated 04/24/2023

This patch reverts the game to .56

It annoys me when I map the NPC to Mom and the MC still refers to her by her first name. I made some updates so that Ann text is displayed as Mom and Max, Lisa and Alice refer to her as Mom while other people refer to her as Ann or your Mom.

To change the script replace the app.asar file under the game folder.

This mod only works on version .56

Little incest talk: Workupload

I'm working on updating my slightly more incest talk patch but it's going to be a while. If you didn't get to use my .53 patch I added a lot to the glamour game making the characters acknowledge the incest. I also tried to make Alice more like a YouTube star. The original game script is 1000 pages. Assuming half is the Max side that's 500 pages. I smoke pot while I do this so I'm not very productive.

Explanation on slightly more incest talk: https://f95zone.to/threads/glamour-v0-53-dark-silver.10579/post-9691286

examples of little incest
View attachment 2045910 View attachment 2571216
Does this one still works?
 

Family Fun

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But do you know who should be what in the relationship
I believe the game has incest built in but the characters still referred to Ann as Ann instead of Mom which annoyed me.
There had been another version where I changed some of the dialogue to have them recognize that they were committing incest but that version has been lost to the ether.


This mod only works on version .56
To play the last of the game that was created before abandonment you can't use the patch.
 
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I believe the game has incest built in but the characters still referred to Ann as Ann instead of Mom which annoyed me.
There had been another version where I changed some of the dialogue to have them recognize that they were committing incest but that version has been lost to the ether.


This mod only works on version .56
To play the last of the game that was created before abandonment you can't use the patch.
oh ok ty
 

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Hi. I'm currently playing this version of the game on Android, and so far it's well-organized from beginning to end, as you can see. However, the storyline is currently better than in unfinished games like (BB) if anyone's familiar with this type of game, which was released in 2013, probably as the first one, and is over 12 years old now, with numerous versions. This one seems to have completed scenes from earlier games, despite the different name. But even though I'm still playing through it, it's great to be at this stage. It's currently great, but like every version, this one probably has a sad ending, haha. Best regards.
 

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Hi. I'm currently playing this version of the game on Android, and so far it's well-organized from beginning to end, as you can see. However, the storyline is currently better than in unfinished games like (BB) if anyone's familiar with this type of game, which was released in 2013, probably as the first one, and is over 12 years old now, with numerous versions. This one seems to have completed scenes from earlier games, despite the different name. But even though I'm still playing through it, it's great to be at this stage. It's currently great, but like every version, this one probably has a sad ending, haha. Best regards.
It's a streamlined version of BB without Eric.

Main problem is that Glamour was actually planned as a game with female protagonist (as in the original Glamour 2016).
See the original announcement by dev in OP :

  • It's going to be a sandbox RPG with a lot more freedom than Big Brother.
  • Many different NPCs, who are going to live their own lives. Main character is just a part of the world, not the center of it.
  • Every NPC, while having some random characteristics here and there, is going to have a lot of care and development put into them. They will have their own stories and secrets.
  • Many NPC-related storylines, which will tell you more about them and will elevate your relationships to a new level.
  • The main character—by the way, this time the main character is female—will be able to interact with NPCs and change their behavior, tastes and preferences.
  • Dates (and more) with NPCs, both men and women.
  • Many different fetishes. Everyone will find something that gets their engine going.
  • The main character and NPCs have a lot of different skills and parameters.
  • Lots of ways to earn money. From completely legal to…
  • Mini-games. From lock-picking to gambling like poker.
  • Crafting and selling new items.
  • Experimental college with unique rules, which will lead to all kinds of spicy situations. The main character will be able to manipulate the rules to achieve her goals.
  • The game is going to be set in the same place and time as Big Brother. The main character will be able to meet a lot of familiar characters and more. Oh, and spiders. There will be spiders.
  • Windows, OSX and Android support.
  • And, as always, great graphics. As good as last versions of Big Brother and better!
They struggled with the female protagonist story and also with the option to add a male protagonist to the game, so they decided to cheat and ported a light version of BB (without Eric) into Glamour as male protagonist story and soon BB overtook Glamour ... so all the Kate fans were screwed. So sad ...
(I would not mind if they had continued an independent Kate story in parallel ... BB is not a bad game, it's just not the promised female protagonist open world game ...)

In retrospect one can say that dev failed with the female protagonist game and I think dev from the start failed to understand that players of female protagonist games look for a different content than players of male protagonist games like BB. A female protagonist does not fuck all the guys in the game unless she is a slut ...
DS' strength and interest seems to be the standard male protagonist BB games where Max can fuck all the females ... both his female protagonist Glamour games are abandoned.
 
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It's a streamlined version of BB without Eric.

Main problem is that Glamour was actually planned as a game with female protagonist (as in the original Glamour 2016).
See the original announcement by dev in OP :



They struggled with the female protagonist story and also with the option to add a male protagonist to the game, so they decided to cheat and ported a light version of BB (without Eric) into Glamour as male protagonist story and soon BB overtook Glamour ... so all the Kate fans were screwed. So sad ...
(I would not mind if they had continued an independent Kate story in parallel ... BB is not a bad game, it's just not the promised female protagonist open world game ...)

In retrospect one can say that dev failed with the female protagonist game and I think dev from the start failed to understand that players of female protagonist games look for a different content than players of male protagonist games like BB. A female protagonist does not fuck all the guys in the game unless she is a slut ...
DS' strength and interest seems to be the standard male protagonist BB games where Max can fuck all the females ... both his female protagonist Glamour games are abandoned.
Hello, and I'm replying to the above reply. If you don't understand something, please forgive me, but the translation is from Polish, because as a person with limited language skills, I can only translate it into English.

So, starting immediately after returning to it by accident, right after a few mission threads and well-executed dialogues in the game, as well as the steps with Max from BB or (if you chose Kate), it's well-thought-out and guided from the beginning of a given mission to the end, or until returning to it after subsequent threads and chapters.
Further commenting, it's nice that there are no characters like Eric, Alex, Olivia's boyfriend, or Petr, Maria's roommate, as in the simplified version of BB. Actions focused and rotated by 180 degrees or 360 (to the previously known threads starting with Ann's storyline, Max's housekeeper, then to Alice and ending or not with Kira), where this is not the case here in Glamour, and the threads of the initial hero (Max chosen as me) are the beginning of getting to know the whole house first at the beginning, then cameras placed to have a preview of the game on the laptop, slowly getting to know Kira's threads, then Ann's (her studies with Lisa instead of Kira), Ann's punishments on Max better or giving up sleeping with the heroines of Max, Lisa and her thread with (so-called oral and anal), meeting Olivia, Lisa's thread and submitting to Alice, Max with Kira in breaks between her work in front of the pool or yoga with Ann, and double action between Kira and Ann on the couch at night, Ann as a maid, Max's studies and meeting Kate, Zoe, and Other college heroines, and then Ann's revolt and return to punishing Max and Alice, leading to another mission, which is to play in the porn industry, and what else could be mentioned?
You know, if someone were to take it on again, perhaps fans or someone else, then there could even be a sequel without the creator, like in other games of this type, for example, if the game you know, Summertime Saga, which, despite its first version, is undergoing a second technical revision with better resolutions and new storylines, then probably BB and Glamour could still have a chance to return, even if it wasn't for a given year or period. But there's always a chance for someone else to commit to these characters as Ann, Alice, Lisa, Olivia, and Kira, so as not to forget them, but to return as long as possible and continue and finish the game decently, even if it were to have parallel worlds in the game with female and male characters, because there's truly no end to the number of ideas for such character plots.

So, despite the problem, as I described at the end of the previous post, there are many ideas for inventing storylines for both characters, so that the game can continue after version 0.57 to get what it deserves.

And I agree with your further description that it is:
- as freedom and a well-developed questline
- many NPCs living around the main characters
- as further levels of the hero's or heroine's storylines
- Dating for both male and female protagonists
- Minigames, which are lacking for a game, except for the Conversation and its three stages, as well as learning from history to physics and three types of learning: first three lessons, then 10, and finally an extra lesson.
- Two Worlds, and plenty of ideas for that if it were developed further. - The Android version is a good plus (e.g., for tablets, because then the game plays better; I know how good it is).
- The graphics are top-notch, and the characters themselves are refined, from Ann to Kate, Lisa, Alice, etc.

Answering here as towards the end, maybe it wouldn't be a problem, but even though you mentioned "problems with a female programmer," there weren't any ideas to surpass it, or maybe there was a chance for a relationship if it were diversified properly, etc.
Finally, it's a combination of the worlds of Kate and Max. Like you, I have no complaints after playing it, and it's fun to play and have fun, and you could even keep inventing new things, but it should have a continuous thread with the characters. But to the point, I also want to say that even if they didn't want to return to it, maybe someone else or the creator of the DS (Dark Silver) would return to it and use it as a guide for further sequels of a similar nature. I'm not going to forget about Max, as I think he's the only character I've remembered for a long time. I'd like to create another game with similar characters and not abandon it immediately. That's probably all I could do to respond to my comment and your reply. Thank you for quoting my post and replying.

P.S. Besides F95zone.to here, I'm sure I won't forget him, and despite the free-to-play DS Patron and the higher threshold, I'll also be able to post a comment about the game. Best regards. Sorry for the long message.
 
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