msleomac

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I don't think I've played this one to the end now that I think about it, is there any scenes between MC and her mother? I would only replay if I missed it
As Nayko93 mentioned you need to follow Mom and remember car model.Then you need to ask her about the man which will get you a clue about a club. Investigate the club.

You then need to investigate the guy Norman and meet him and flirt with him to get him to meet you for dinner where you learn about the club. You can threaten him or flirt with Norman to gain access to the club. In the club you will meet mom's BF Ethan. Talk and follow him and do what he says.

Later when Ethan asks for help, agree to help and you are on mom path. Choose to stay with mom and Ethan for happy ending.
 
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davidgarit74

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GGGB vs ORS: Main characters

One of the things that made GGGB unique was the female POV of the story. Most adult VN are written and played by men, so it’s natural the male POV is the prevalent one. When I started GGGB there were a few female POV games out there, but most of them were, how to put this... not too well done.
Writing from a female POV was something that for some reason appealed to me, and I thought I could do a better job than what most people were doing at that moment. It also allowed me to explore some erotic themes from a fresh and cool perspective, and it was just fun. So I took this angle and went with it. Some people had trouble playing from Ashley’s POV, but a lot of you really loved it.

Ashley as a character was rather plain, a fairly simple model that could be easily transformed by your choices. My main contribution was writing her like a coherent character, delving into her inner monologue and elaborating into her feelings and personal relationships. It was fun seeing how this simple girl could change, fight for what she believed in or fall prey to lust. I know most people expected me to keep doing the same when GGGB was finished and ORS was announced, but I knew I didn’t want to repeat myself. It’s important for me to keep things interesting and fun for myself, and I knew I needed to go beyond what Ashley provided as a main character.

The choice of going with a double protagonist was a bold and risky one, but it’s one I stand by. Lena is true to GGGB spirit, giving the player a female POV similar to Ashley’s, but introducing a male POV was something I had been wanting to do for quite a while. Dave, Eric and Jack were NPCs I really enjoyed writing, and often I imagines the story from their perspective. Ian would allow me to create just that, and intertwining his POV with Lena’s also allowed me to explore branching storyline and choice mechanics in a new way I hadn’t seen done before. It was a challenge that motivated me and opened up a lot of new door for me and for the player. But that wasn’t the only change from GGGB.

Some people have said that Ashley felt like a blank slate in which the player could insert his particular vision, compared to Lena and Ian, which feel like their own person, with their own and particular personality and past. That’s not exactly true, since Ashley also has a certain personality and a past. But it’s true Lena and Ian have a lot more entity as characters than her. That’s because they have scars. You could say what builds a character (and what builds our own personalities) are wounds. Let’s look at Harry Potter, for lack of a better example: he carries the literal wound that defines his character on his forehead. Jon Snow is a bastard, Naruto hosts a cursed beast inside him, etc. etc... A good character has a wound that defines him.

Ashley had a background, but no real wounds: those happened during the game and shaped her (Eric leaving, her family falling apart, etc). On the other hand, Lena and Ian start the game heavily defined by a recent wound that ties into their character and their motivations. This is what make them feel more interesting and “real” as characters, and when I talk about ORS being a more focused and nuanced game experience I’m talking about things like these.
I know many of you are on the fence about the new double protagonist approach, but I hope you can enjoy the new angle it provides.

Did you like Ashley or Lena more? And do you enjoy having a GGGB-like experience but with a male POV in Ian? I surely enjoy writing it, and playing around with his relationships, especially Cindy's ;)!
preferred just the female perspective in GGGB, also liked the older man relationship with the dad so would be great to add something like that into ORS
 

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if I remember right you can be pregnant with eric's dad and wilson the thug , and maybe some other but I don't know
MC decides to have her Dad's child and that's all(it can be mixed with Arthur). I don't see any endings with pregnancy from other's characters.
 

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MC decides to have her Dad's child and that's all(it can be mixed with Arthur). I don't see any endings with pregnancy from other's characters.
sorry I was wrong , it's eva who can be pregnant with the boss of wilson
as for eric's dad i'm sure I had a ending where she has his child
 

msleomac

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I've unlocked only incest path with pregnancy. Which paths also contains pregnancy for MC?
With Dad -
Good points 30 always choose blue option
Need to be in no relationship with Arthur.
Can be in open or relationship with Eric Dave or Jack. Option to get pregnant with Dad child and be with LI if first criteria met.

With Boss -
Good girl when meeting in Gym and job interview.
Best if you studied whenever option presented itself but if you instagrammed or went to gym instead choose option want to continue studies. Need to study atleast once
During coffee scene ask about him and compliment him.
Need to be in open or no relationship when meeting for coffee.

With BF Dad -
Need to be in relationship with Arthur.
Can be good or bad girl. But best scenes with bad girl

With BF -
Alpha - Stayed committed relation with Eric

Cuck - In open relationship with Eric and must be cucked. Option to get pregnant with Dad or Arthur's child and be with Eric.

Other Preg
Eve with Jacob (default ending if Eve breaks up with Dave)
 
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msleomac

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after looking in the image rpa file I found some picture of
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how can I have this please ?
You need to cuck Eric and be in relationship with Arthur.

You need to be open relationship with Eric. Tell him when you sleep with others. You need to cheat with one more once atleast other than Arthur. Buy all dildos and use them in web chat. Choose red options.

Can do this in good girl playthrough but balancing act. Bad girl playthrough is straight shot. Also added bonus of corrupting Iris at same time.

If you have a real filthy mind i would suggest bad playthrough with atleast 40 bad points by the time corrupting Iris
 
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msleomac

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With Dad -
Good points 30 always choose blue option
Need to be in no relationship with Arthur.
Can be in open or relationship with Eric Dave or Jack. Option to get pregnant with Dad child and be with LI if first criteria met.

With Boss -
Good girl when meeting in Gym and job interview.
Best if you studied whenever option presented itself but if you instagrammed or went to gym instead choose option want to continue studies. Need to study atleast once
During coffee scene ask about him and compliment him.
Need to be in open or no relationship when meeting for coffee.

With BF Dad -
Need to be in relationship with Arthur.
Can be good or bad girl. But best scenes with bad girl

With BF -
Alpha - Stayed committed relation with Eric

Cuck - In open relationship with Eric and must be cucked. Option to get pregnant with Dad or Arthur's child and be with Eric.

Other Preg
Eve with Jacob (default ending if Eve breaks up with Dave)
Other Preg
Also Eve with Thug Boss (default ending if Eve Joins the gang)
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong as I may just be misremembering (and I haven't played GGGB since before it reached its "completed" state), but wasn't there talk about further work to be done to the game after the Jasmin DLC dropped? I know that ORS (which I have yet to try) is the current project and that Eva is focusing efforts into that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that GGGB won't be revisited, correct? Or do we know (from Eva) that GGGB as it's currently presented here is the final version of it? Just curious, and thanks in advance for any answers (especially those that points to a definite remark by Eva). Cheers, y'all!
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong as I may just be misremembering (and I haven't played GGGB since before it reached its "completed" state), but wasn't there talk about further work to be done to the game after the Jasmin DLC dropped? I know that ORS (which I have yet to try) is the current project and that Eva is focusing efforts into that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that GGGB won't be revisited, correct? Or do we know (from Eva) that GGGB as it's currently presented here is the final version of it? Just curious, and thanks in advance for any answers (especially those that points to a definite remark by Eva). Cheers, y'all!
Its a pity, but gggb - best adult game in hisory - finally over
 

msleomac

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Correct me if I'm wrong as I may just be misremembering (and I haven't played GGGB since before it reached its "completed" state), but wasn't there talk about further work to be done to the game after the Jasmin DLC dropped? I know that ORS (which I have yet to try) is the current project and that Eva is focusing efforts into that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that GGGB won't be revisited, correct? Or do we know (from Eva) that GGGB as it's currently presented here is the final version of it? Just curious, and thanks in advance for any answers (especially those that points to a definite remark by Eva). Cheers, y'all!
There was a talk of an Alpha Eric DLC by dev. But as of this time there is no development and with the dev focusing on ORS I think we can safely assume this is the final version of GGGB.
 

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GGGB vs ORS: Structure

GGGB and ORS follow a very similar structure, but have a couple key differences.

One that’s plain to see is the fact that having only one playable character in GGGB forced me to make Ashley one of the participants in almost every sex scene. I also noticed having a female MC caused the majority of the NPCs to be guys, even though Ash could have a few lesbian relationships with her friends. Having Ian and Lena as playable characters doesn’t only mean I can have way more variety when combining characters for hot and original sex scenes, but also allowed me to introduce more female NPCs in the cast, and I really love those new characters! (Holly, Alison, Cindy, Cherry, Emma...) But the major structural key element for both games lies in their status quo (yeah, I’m gonna use that word a lot from now on).

As I said before, with GGGB I wanted to push choice mechanics and branching possibilities to the extreme, to the point where it’s almost ridiculous (the thug route, for example). The fun was the exploration of how widely paths could vary, and you could end up with a very different status quo depending on your choices, affecting not only Ash but the surrounding characters. The downside to this kind of structure, other than the previously mentioned lack of profundity on its themes, was the lack of said status quo. Things could vary so much that the overall structure lost consistency and became an amalgam of “what if” scenarios, without a defined or conducting plotline.

This problem is intrinsic to all choice-based and open-ended games and stories, I think, and ORS faces the same conundrum. After all, if the story is set in stone, there’s no room for the player to make meaningful choices, and that’s what this is all about! But I wanted ORS to have a more solid structure and a better defined status quo that could serve as a frame for me as a writer and the player. That meant narrowing the possible outcomes, meaning, Ian and Lena’s possible permutations are more focused. Don’t get this wrong, this doesn’t mean there are less permutations than in GGGB: the difference lies in how the choices affect that status quo. While in GGGB your choices created different, varied and somewhat unconnected status quo, with ORS my goal is making your choices affect a single, deeply interconnected status quo. This is what I refer to when I talk about making a more focused and nuanced gaming experience. Hopefully this way your choices as both Ian and Lena will be even more meaningful, having a deeper impact on their environment and personal relationships, where connexions are more clear and explicit and well structured.

What do you think, you prefer the more wide-and-shallowstructure of GGGB or is ORS’s narrow-and-deepstructure gripping you more into the story?
 
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justas90210

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just finished the game,well what can i say.. it's awesome,it's probably the most branched game i ever played,almost everything have consequences,nice artwork,very good story,and conversations between characters
 
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Avakao

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Ok, where to begin.

I'm kinda new to VN games, etc. Especially the adult ones, and besides one or two other games, I never saw one with so many branches on choices and consequences. I felt threatened and overwhelmed sometimes, afraid I would end up fucking my MC life, just like IRL when you do some choices. Especially since I played the good girl route, at the beginning I was feeling like she would be just a naive and weak girl that would be exploited by others at some point. But she can be so strong and confident even on the good girl route, and I totally loved it, seeing her growth.
All the characters are amazing. I totally loved or hated them, and they felt alive.
The writing in this game is masterly done, in both, plot and conversations, the last one especially felt so natural and human.
Also, I did a full good girl path (only got 1 bad girl point the whole game), I think it was harder to commit to being nice when everything around you is trying to put you down.
And I must admit I'm surprised how in the end, it paid off, it was refreshing and so rewarding. Plus I'm in total love with Jess in the good girl path, I don't even wanna try other routes, she's so perfect and sweet once she opens up and leaves that slut life behind.
I could keep praising this game, but I would be doing it for hours. I can't express how much I recommend this one. The art may put some ppl off at the beginning, it happened to me, but once you get used to it, you'll see how much it's worth it.
5 stars.
 

goodguy80

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Ok, where to begin.

I'm kinda new to VN games, etc. Especially the adult ones, and besides one or two other games, I never saw one with so many branches on choices and consequences. I felt threatened and overwhelmed sometimes, afraid I would end up fucking my MC life, just like IRL when you do some choices. Especially since I played the good girl route, at the beginning I was feeling like she would be just a naive and weak girl that would be exploited by others at some point. But she can be so strong and confident even on the good girl route, and I totally loved it, seeing her growth.
All the characters are amazing. I totally loved or hated them, and they felt alive.
The writing in this game is masterly done, in both, plot and conversations, the last one especially felt so natural and human.
Also, I did a full good girl path (only got 1 bad girl point the whole game), I think it was harder to commit to being nice when everything around you is trying to put you down.
And I must admit I'm surprised how in the end, it paid off, it was refreshing and so rewarding. Plus I'm in total love with Jess in the good girl path, I don't even wanna try other routes, she's so perfect and sweet once she opens up and leaves that slut life behind.
I could keep praising this game, but I would be doing it for hours. I can't express how much I recommend this one. The art may put some ppl off at the beginning, it happened to me, but once you get used to it, you'll see how much it's worth it.
5 stars.
Yep. This is the best adult game ever made. But try bad girl route, that was so awesome, broke your all limits for this, play a role of bad girl - definetely worth it, I swear you )
 
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