Hey, is there a way to get together with Eva (that one is easy) and also make sure Dave and Jess get together (haven't managed that at all yet, but seems to be possible)?
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- Feb 1, 2019
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Make sure Jess is not on drugs. Dave and Eve break up and Ash is not interested in Dave. Go all good options with Jess. In hospital after Dave is beaten up you get option "didnt know you cared about dave" the Jess Dave part is triggered.
To help Jess stay of drugs you need max friendship points. The key scenes are
1. help her with homework when you first meet.
2. skip class and go out with Jess to tattoo parlor (optional. Dosn't effect much except for dialouge change)
3. when meeting later and Jess is late dont comment
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GGGB vs ORS: Themes (2)
THEMES (2)
Continuing with the commentary on the theme of both games, I felt I could pinpoint a few of those particular themes that rose to my attention while I was working on GGGB. The nature of my first game didn’t allow me to explore those themes with the depth I would’ve liked, since I had to take care of a lot of possible branches, but I wanted to give myself that chance with ORS.
If you’re a bit perceptive you might already know what particular themes are those. In GGGB Ashley could, through the pictures she uploaded in social media, end up dipping her toes in the modelling business, even becoming a cam girl at some point, but that was never integral to the story. I tried to do that in ORS, where Lena starts as an amateur model, and her reasons to delve in that world and make her presence known in social media are not only to fulfill a simple yearning for popularity and notoriety, as was Ash’s case. Also, being integral to Lena’s development, social media, modelling and all the stuff that can be derived from it will have a major impact on the narrative, while in GGGB it felt a bit like its own, separate storyline.
Arthur was the main villain in GGGB, but his motivations were very narrow in scope, and only involved himself and his twisted fantasies. Ethan has also potential to become a very interesting villain, but his role was confined to Ashley’s mom side of the story. But what if I combined both men and created an antagonist that delves in corruptionand has the power and the brains to really get what he wants? Well, you can surely imagine who that character would be.
Dave and Eric, and even Jack in some sense, were also very interesting to me as characters. The first two, especially, were young men trying to figure out what they wanted to do in life, pursuing their not-so-easy-to-achieve dreams and trapped in the flux of rocky relationships with the girls that surrounded them. They got themselves into hot situations, into fights, into traps and betrayals and more... I tried to make their struggles and adventures relevant, but of course I was very limited since they were NPCs. Adding a male POV would also allow me to develop and explore those themes in a much more fun way.
There are more themes that crossed over from GGGB into ORS, some others are new, but my goal is to delve deeper into all of them to make a more impactful, engaging and meaningful gaming experience. Do you feel this is the case so far? Which other themes you think exist in GGGB and ORS and how you think they’re being treated differently?
- Nov 21, 2019
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these two games do not compare,the GGGB she has it all, tough men, drugs, lots of sex with a lot of men. and much more.the other game has some college kids(jejune) with faces mom's boys,the second game became quite famous because it was done by the same people who made it GGGB.
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Every time I dive into GGGB's code it makes me wince in empathy. I can't even imagine how hard it must have been for this to be worked on mid-way through development. Everything's in a single 10MB .rpy file! I have to do all my editing through Vim because it crashes almost anything else.
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GGGB vs ORS: Art
Visual Novels combine two main aspects, as the name implies: the writing and the visuals. Art has always been very important for me, and I don’t know what I am first: a writer or an artist. In any case, writing and gameplay has to be good and engaging to make the player invested in the game, and even though I think it’s the writing what will make the player stay, it’s the art that pulls you in in the first place. So the art has to be sexy to look at!
I’ve said before that I’m a bit ashamed of GGGB’s production values, but at the time it was the best I could conjure up. I’ve talked about the process I followed to come up with this visual style before, but in short, I wanted naturalistic art with a semblance of elegance that went along the tone of the writing and the overall experience. But most important of all I needed a style that was easy and fast to produce and that would allow me to pump out dozens of illustrations per month while writing and coding the game all at the same time. It was far from perfect, but... It was good enough. And you know what they say, “better done than perfect”.
ORS follows the same principles, but it’s a big improvement: after GGGB’s success I was able to invest in my own game and I didn’t need to do everything myself anymore. Hiring someone to color the illustrations has been awesome: it allows me to spend more time on the art itself, making more polished and sexy illustrations, and drawing more pictures per scene too. And now the illustrations have shadows and volumes, they’re no longer flat colored. I can say ORS looks like GGGB should’ve looked in the first place, or how I would’ve liked it to look.
Truth be told, when I started looking for someone to help me with the coloring I wasn’t envisioning this result. All I wanted was a more polished look than GGGB, but when I found Lenadai and she sent the test back... I knew I had to hire her! Now I can say the game looks even better than my original projection, and that, to a creator, is a great joy. And the backgrounds... well, I don’t need to point out the obvious, do I?
All I want now is to grow my patron base to be able to invest even more money on the project and make it better: more original music, more backgrounds, more art. Do you think ORS looks better than GGGB, or you have a soft spot for the older, simpler art style? Do you prefer 2D or 3D art in adult VNs? And would you be hyped for a future Evas Kiss game with even better art, commissioned entirely to a better artist than I am?
- Mar 19, 2020
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Daaaaamn, finished the game with the good girl gone camgirl (but still good girl) route, and it was hard to put down. Good stuff.
Just have one question though: why does Eric get all surprised when he "finds out" Ash did camshows on TV, even though I chose to specifically tell him that, and he said it was strange but fine? Was that a bug?
Eric and Ash really do have a perfect loving relationship though, I had no heart to break them up. It's a really heartwarming story the way I played it.
Just have one question though: why does Eric get all surprised when he "finds out" Ash did camshows on TV, even though I chose to specifically tell him that, and he said it was strange but fine? Was that a bug?
Eric and Ash really do have a perfect loving relationship though, I had no heart to break them up. It's a really heartwarming story the way I played it.
- Feb 8, 2019
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So, in my playthrough, Ashley
1) became a bimbo porn star
2) became her ex-bf's father's fucktoy
3) made her ex's sister become her father's fucktoy
4) humiliated her own father and made him commit suicide
5) broke Eva's relationships and bullied Eva into committing suicide
Bruh evil Ashley is deadass twisted as fuck.
1) became a bimbo porn star
2) became her ex-bf's father's fucktoy
3) made her ex's sister become her father's fucktoy
4) humiliated her own father and made him commit suicide
5) broke Eva's relationships and bullied Eva into committing suicide
Bruh evil Ashley is deadass twisted as fuck.
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Since it isn't updated in the OP yet and I don't know if it's shared already,
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1.2 Mac Version.
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Tried this when it was in early development. Liked it then. Tried it again now that it's finished. It's definetly one of the best VN ever made. 10/10! Kudos to the EvaKiss!
- Aug 23, 2020
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Just downloaded this last night. Holy shit, what a great game! I tried to browse through it last night just to get a sense of the scope, and I can't believe all of the content! Even skipping all the dialog and selecting choices at random (or almost random) I think I spent a couple hours with this game. Just incredible.
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