AriaZaia

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GGGB is honestly one of the best adult games I've ever seen in the past few years I've been lurking here and loved to keep up with the updates it got. I do have a bit of a bias but I have high hopes of ORS to grow and be as amazing as GGGB in it's own right. Seriously, EvaKiss is such an amazing and talented dev!
 

Brickman

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Of course he did : he talked about "new game ORS"...

I agree with Jimul18, the story in GGGB is far better than in ORS, at this time.
It's obvious EK concentrates on programming lines, instead of creating a real interesting story.
And that's sad because she's talented for both !
What are you talking about? ORS story is far far better than GGGB, it has way deeper interactions, more nuanced characters and interactivity and a well constructed plot with objectives and expertyl crafted developing plot lines. Eva Kiss herself said GGGB is more of a sandox game where Ashley doesn't have a clear objective and you just have fun guiding her different fun and whacky paths. There's also great characterization in GGGB, but it lacks a consistent plot, though that might be one of the game's strengths so to speak, since it gives you more freedom to explore over the top fetishes and scenes. But ORS story and characters are far superior
 

jimul18

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What are you talking about? ORS story is far far better than GGGB, it has way deeper interactions, more nuanced characters and interactivity and a well constructed plot with objectives and expertyl crafted developing plot lines. Eva Kiss herself said GGGB is more of a sandox game where Ashley doesn't have a clear objective and you just have fun guiding her different fun and whacky paths. There's also great characterization in GGGB, but it lacks a consistent plot, though that might be one of the game's strengths so to speak, since it gives you more freedom to explore over the top fetishes and scenes. But ORS story and characters are far superior
What would be your elevator pitch for ORS?

Mine for GGGB would be something along the lines of: "Follow the story of Ashley a young, seemingly innocent girl who is socially and sexually awakened. Guide her through a maze of possible relationships each teeming with naughty possibilities as she is transformed into a good girl gone bad." (A bit cringy I know ;))
 

Priappus

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GGGB story is crazy in most paths, of course that's why it's fun but ORS has better characters for sure
I agree that it has better characters ORS.characters for good discussion characters that go to church every Sunday pure characters which is not for porn games but for anything else.
the GGGB has bums characters,drug dealers, pimp,underworld,group sex,bbc porn And much more.
if you are a pure boy you like it ORS,if you like perversions it's best GGGB.
(sorry for bad english)

these faces are very good for comedy not for porn game.
 
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popple

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What are you talking about? ORS story is far far better than GGGB, it has way deeper interactions, more nuanced characters and interactivity and a well constructed plot with objectives and expertyl crafted developing plot lines. Eva Kiss herself said GGGB is more of a sandox game where Ashley doesn't have a clear objective and you just have fun guiding her different fun and whacky paths. There's also great characterization in GGGB, but it lacks a consistent plot, though that might be one of the game's strengths so to speak, since it gives you more freedom to explore over the top fetishes and scenes. But ORS story and characters are far superior
We're just talking about an adult porn game...
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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I have to admit that I'm sincerely impressed with this game. Due to the tags, I figured it was likely another formulaic cheating / corruption pornfest that I'd get bored of & dispose of within 5 to 10 minutes. But I was bored so I thought I'd give it a look. Turns out I ended up playing through it for damn near a week trying to discover all of the content, (still not sure I got it all). Despite it's appearance, this game was honestly one of the best that I've ever played on here. It's a real standout, which is pretty high praise considering that I typically don't bother commenting on games that I like, let alone ranking them in the top tier echelon.
The plot is unique & pretty well thought out, the story is very immersive, the characters really have depth & develop over time, (well the ones that matter at least), & there was a lot of genuine effort putting into getting the player emotionally invested into the characters, especially on the good girl path.

The only real criticisms I have is that the Dev's efforts & creating tension with the internal right & wrong type conflicts was overly simplistic. It seemed Ashley & a lot of the other characters were... eh... how do I put this? They operated in the mental framework of moral relativism, (the belief that morals are shaped by & for society), vs moral subjectivism, (the belief that morals should be shaped by & for the individual). But there's no real moral objectivism there. For example, whenever Ashley or Eva cheats in the game, there's a moral objective component that mostly absent. I mean Ashley clearly seems to deeply love Eric in 80% of this game, even when she's doing massively fucked up shit & especially towards the beginning. Every time she cheats though, her mental framework seems to be "I know it's wrong because society says it's wrong but I'm not caring what other's think anymore & it felt good, so I don't feel guilty" I mean that's really sociopathic. It's like the concept of "I know it's wrong because it hurts the man I love, which should also logically hurt me to be the one to harm him like that" is a foreign concept. & that is the moral objectivity of cheating. It's not wrong because society frowns on it, It's wrong because it hurts people, specifically those whom you love & want to protect from pain & suffering. The lack of that component does detract from the game some.

That said though, all in all, easily one of the best games in this niche.
 

a-pollo

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I have to admit that I'm sincerely impressed with this game. Due to the tags, I figured it was likely another formulaic cheating / corruption pornfest that I'd get bored of & dispose of within 5 to 10 minutes. But I was bored so I thought I'd give it a look. Turns out I ended up playing through it for damn near a week trying to discover all of the content, (still not sure I got it all). Despite it's appearance, this game was honestly one of the best that I've ever played on here. It's a real standout, which is pretty high praise considering that I typically don't bother commenting on games that I like, let alone ranking them in the top tier echelon.
The plot is unique & pretty well thought out, the story is very immersive, the characters really have depth & develop over time, (well the ones that matter at least), & there was a lot of genuine effort putting into getting the player emotionally invested into the characters, especially on the good girl path.

The only real criticisms I have is that the Dev's efforts & creating tension with the internal right & wrong type conflicts was overly simplistic. It seemed Ashley & a lot of the other characters were... eh... how do I put this? They operated in the mental framework of moral relativism, (the belief that morals are shaped by & for society), vs moral subjectivism, (the belief that morals should be shaped by & for the individual). But there's no real moral objectivism there. For example, whenever Ashley or Eva cheats in the game, there's a moral objective component that mostly absent. I mean Ashley clearly seems to deeply love Eric in 80% of this game, even when she's doing massively fucked up shit & especially towards the beginning. Every time she cheats though, her mental framework seems to be "I know it's wrong because society says it's wrong but I'm not caring what other's think anymore & it felt good, so I don't feel guilty" I mean that's really sociopathic. It's like the concept of "I know it's wrong because it hurts the man I love, which should also logically hurt me to be the one to harm him like that" is a foreign concept. & that is the moral objectivity of cheating. It's not wrong because society frowns on it, It's wrong because it hurts people, specifically those whom you love & want to protect from pain & suffering. The lack of that component does detract from the game some.

That said though, all in all, easily one of the best games in this niche.
Then you could be interested in the new Eva Kiss' game Our Red String > https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-v0-6-final-evakiss.48813/ still in progress
 

jimul18

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Who were the real-life references for the characters? I think Iris was Megan Rain, Riley Reid maybe some Emily Willis. Not sure, but Jessica could have been Nicole Aniston, some August Ames for sure (pool party) and some Juelz Ventura? Bimbo Ashley probably Aletta Ocean and Nicolette Shea.

But what about Eva, Ashley and her mom?
 

RolandG.

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Hi guys, does anyone know a game where the father steals the son's girlfriend.

I only know "good girl gone bad".

Also cheating like in "AdventurousCouple" would be ok.

thx
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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My last post was a bit of a ramble, So I want to try to clarify & condense what I mean with my criticism of the characters moral compass issues, which I feel would have made the characters & overall story have more depth & immersion.

So to clarify, with the morality breakdown, it's overly simplistic. You're either a plain, boring & insecure good person who's only "good" because your self value comes from how others perceive you, or you're a confident, fun elite person that disregards the opinions of others, (though not really as Jessica pointed out), & seeks out self gratification regardless of the consequences. There's no real self evaluation. You're either accountable to other people or accountable to no one. There's no real concept of empathy, honor, justice, etc...

So when it comes to things like cheating for example, I know that I would never cheat on my partner, (well partners because I'm poly but we won't get into that). & the sole reason is because I love them & the thought of betraying them or causing them harm sickens me. I don't care about what others think or about the risks of getting caught, All I care about is protecting them from harm, not being the source of it. That kind of ethic is lacking in this game.

Now I understand that obviously the characters are going to cheat, that's the point of the game after all. Cheating & corruption for the faps. I get it. My point is, the characters would be better & more realistic if that fundamental element was part of their morality. But when Ashley cheats, she's so focused on how pleasurable it felt that it overrides most of her guilt & remorse, & her guilt only comes from realizing that it was wrong in the eyes of others & they would look bad on her if they ever found out. There's no element of "Oh shit. How could I do this to the man I love". That internal struggle would make the characters more believable.
 
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Slappy Kinkaid

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Also, I'm not sure if the dev will ever see this, but I think a spin off game with Eric as the protag about his time in Somalia would actually be real interesting. I'd play it.
 

Keep_Your_Sanity

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I don't have a lot of time to play games, so how is the point system?

Can you go balanced (e.g. have 32 'Good' points & 27 'Bad' points) and get a good amount of content for both sides or does the game favors you more if you commit to one side?
 
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