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fitgirlbestgirl

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I think the game kind of went downhill once it got split into the three distinct paths. I really enjoyed it up until that point, the way you could somewhat mix and match approaches and the way Lara was written. I feel the paths kind of went way too on the nose with the writing where suddenly she turns into a completely braindead, dependant slave; a super clichè whore who says shit like "teeheehee" all the time or this clingy super sweet girlfriend. It also felt like you had less agency as the MC after that point, he just acted the way he was written without much input. I liked the Mind stuff up until it actually turned into a route, then the MC suddenly turned into this big asshole and I was like "can't I want her to be submissive and still be somewhat nice to her?"
 

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I think the game kind of went downhill once it got split into the three distinct paths. I really enjoyed it up until that point, the way you could somewhat mix and match approaches and the way Lara was written. I feel the paths kind of went way too on the nose with the writing where suddenly she turns into a completely braindead, dependant slave; a super clichè whore who says shit like "teeheehee" all the time or this clingy super sweet girlfriend. It also felt like you had less agency as the MC after that point, he just acted the way he was written without much input. I liked the Mind stuff up until it actually turned into a route, then the MC suddenly turned into this big asshole and I was like "can't I want her to be submissive and still be somewhat nice to her?"
Keeping approaches open until the end would mean never fully going into some solid consequences of the character's progression (or needing to consider so many small possible nuances that it would be required dozens of paths/branches to make such consequences happen).

The idea was to ask the player for choices during 80% of the game, and then "assume" the behavior he expects from the characters in the final act. Like, if a lot of times the MC treats the girl like trash, throws her into non-con situations and tries to break her spirit, it would be "fair" to assume the player actually plays the MC as big asshole, and then write more specific actions more directed to this behavior so we can have some solid consequences in the end.

Obviously, narrowing all possible behaviors down to only 4 paths is a huge oversimplification of the wide range of intentions the player might have in mind (even with some small variations with the final choice). The game is bound to assume a behavior that is not exactly what was intended by some people. It's a choice between breaking expectations for some players or never closing meaningful arcs for the characters.

Interactive story telling is hard (even for a freaking porn game!!)
 

fitgirlbestgirl

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I get it, it's hard. Still wished there was some more nuance involved. Even having like two forks with minor dialogue differences for every path would have helped a bunch, at least for me. I don't agree with the assessment that you have to be an asshole to be on the Mind path. I mean maybe objectively you are, but you can still be protective of her and even love her, even if you want to throw her to the wolves sometimes. I just didn't like that I was basically pretty nice to her throughout the game, but after the path split suddenly the MC treats her like total shit. And then the only real choice is between "be a total asshole to her" or "be a total asshole to her and sell her to another asshole."

Still loved the game though.
 
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ouch2020

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how do you get the canon ending?
One way (the way I used) Romance (but she had anyway corruption 100, the MC had sex with her, and she was not mind broken but with "mind" lower than at the start, it is not a virgin romance path), then do not have/do not use the one domination point at the end (you will understand what I mean when you get there, I don't want to spoil the surprise ;-)). If you have and use the domination point, maybe you still get the "canon", or at least a variant of it (different person with those eyes ? :)), but I have not tried yet all possible variants, so I don't know. Liked the fun of that ending, and I personally like the way in which, although keeping still to the main "forced" paths, the ending seems to be more open to different variants. So, there are more than three endings, depending on the combinations, which is good, I personally like that and think is a good work.
 

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There were three major routes along the game starting on chapter 5. It is incongruous to expect more than the romance/corruption/mindbroke endings and their variations for the game.
 

JackHammer

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Say I've totally mind broke her and keep her as a virgin so far (not because I want to, but I never had the chance to f@ck her), by the end, NOTHING HAPPENS AT ALL, yet somehow i am still the 'collector', what did I collect? No lara's sex sense, no sam, no artifact, this is all to bizarre, after everthing the MC has propared for SO LONG, he doesn't even get to have a taste of what he cooked...
Yeah, sorry, I should have been clearer. You have to mind break her AND have really broken her in. You should have at least had chances to force her a couple times at the mansion. When you're helping her with research, you have to try to arouse her, but then when it comes time for some action, go for the face fuck or whatever. And any time you can have her submit to some randim dude, do it. Then you're golden.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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There is one but i don't find it really that necessary.
Routes start by the end of chapter 5 and they are based on a combination of the choice done there by Rick plus (C)Lara atributes (romance/corruption/mind break).
 

DieterWillms

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Use the Search function, I helped someone with similar problem recently
I already searched for a fix, but couldn‘t really find one that helped. I don‘t have any of the previous versions installed, I just downloaded the most recent file, unzipped it and tried to open grh-osx, but then I‘m just getting the message that the file can‘t be opened and I have no idea what I have to do now. I only bought my mac recently, so my lack of knowledge regarding the operating system might be a factor as well. Any help would be highly appreciated.
 
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