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On another note, a little bit disappointed to see Shizuka being (slowly) revealed to be/becoming (?) quite the little pervert, (Thanks for the spoilers btw, you guys in this thread - I haven't played this update yet! But hey, at least some of you had the decency to hide the spoiler(s) in a spoiler box...) but I was seeing her as the cutest, most innocent and wholesome character in the game, until I read those spoilers. But, like I've said in the past, a dev can take a game or character in that game, in any direction they want. And it could also be the result of some Patreon exclusive poll, and then all I can say is, I guess that's what the game's (major) audience wants.

And despite my previous entries to this discussion in the past, I wanna point out that I love this game, and would support the dev financially, if I had the means to do so, as this game is easily in my top ten favourite games of all time, of the roughly 150-200 games I've played so far. Because there are many games to choose from, and many of them, quite good ones. But the great ones are few, and far between, or worst case scenario, *shivers* abandoned. And I remember saying to someone recently, how I was picky, and believe me, I really am. But, the problem is, you have to play a game before you know if it's any good, and how good.

And the question then also becomes about being polite and/or PC, and just "humouring" a dev, by not criticising their game at all, and just saying nice things to them. Or just being completely honest with them, now matter how they might feel about your input afterwards. So you tell me what you think is the best approach, but I know that I natively fall in the latter category. So trust me, when I say that this game is good, I really mean that. But keep in mind, this is just my two cents, my opinion on it, and shouldn't matter to anyone else but me really, or change how you feel about me, or the game itself, or towards the dev, for that matter, it's just an opinion.

But I've noticed that many people are offended by this approach, and I get it. I can be very direct sometimes, and I tend to speak my mind without a filter. That's partly because I'm a little bit autistic, and of my personality as well. That however, does not mean it's okay to lash out at me, for just speaking my mind, simply because you didn't like what I said. Because I wouldn't do that to you, so I do expect the same courtesy in kind. And I'm not a fan of the facepalm thing either, but they don't affect me as much, they're just annoying. And I was a victim of bullying and violence in my younger years, but I don't appreciate being bullied now either, although I know this is the internet, and it can be quite toxic sometimes, that's just how it is.

So you can facepalm all you want, it really doesn't affect me much, but I would rather that you didn't, if that makes sense. Because, at the end of the day, I'm still me, you're still you, and what did your facepalm really accomplish? The way I see it, and from how I've seen the facepalm thing used, its only function (mostly), is to garner a following of people in support to shame or ridicule someone else, like, "Hey, look at this guy, what a dumbass!". And that is borderline, if not actual (online) bullying, but also, just unnecessary, and to someone like me, simply annoying. And like I said before, I wouldn't do that to someone else, so why should it be okay for them to do that to me? Just a thought, but definitely one worth thinking about.

Anyway, this became more than just my two cents about the game, but also my stance on online behaviour. And I've said my piece, take it any way you like, for what it's worth. I guess it's something that's been on my mind for a while, and something I needed to say, to get off my chest, so to speak. And thanks for taking the time to read it all, I know it was a bit long, but I'm done now. Peace!
Shizuka was always meant to be a pervert, she's just really shy so it takes a while for it to show.
Though I feel like I'm missing something. When did you criticize the game and people bullied you?

Well, I didn't ask for anything, I suggest to clear your head and read it again. I just pointed out, that it seems weird to me to keep the days so short. It's basically the wake up scene, one activity during the day and most times a scene where the MC goes alone or with someone to sleep. The overall amount is good. The day/scene ratio seems just to be off. I do know Moonbox is a one man dev, but I do also other one dev "teams", that at least manage to write their game with a wake up scene, morning scene, afternoon and then a sleep scene. There is no need to progress the days in such a fast pace. And let's face it, if more scenes would be put in one day, even if it's just one scene per day and he would release each update just one day, he would still save some time, because of the fewer sleep scenes he need to render and write. Take this update for example, he could have it written in a way, that the MC visits Lily in the morning, catches Shizuka in the afternoon and goes on the date with Priya. Yeah sure, the sleeping scene with Nana and Shizuka would be missing, but that's not a real problem in my book.

And attacking me for having a opinion? Real mature of you, I guess you need to read the forum rules again. Guess what, where you ended: on ignore!

Thank you for pointing out, how entitled people can act, if they're on a pointless crusade, because they read what they want not what is written.
If you're not on some routes some days can seem awkwardly short. Like there are days where you'll literally wake up, have a short conversation then go to bed if you're not on any of the routes that feature that day. That's just the way it is when things are optional and I think making some alternate scenes where the MC just kills time to stretch the days are really not worth it.

The day you're talking about played out a little differently. Breakfast in the morning, work in the afternoon, Lily in the evening and Priya at night. You do have a point but you picked about the worst day as an example :ROFLMAO:

As for the Nana and Shizuka sleep scene missing, that's definitely a problem in my book. I like those scenes and when you have 40 girlfriends you need to sleep a lot if you wanna give them all a turn
 

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I wonder what will happen when in the end Dev said that "There will be no sex with Nana".:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:...Just joking.
 

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but I was seeing her as the cutest, most innocent and wholesome character in the game, until I read those spoilers. But, like I've said in the past, a dev can take a game or character in that game, in any direction they want. And it could also be the result of some Patreon exclusive poll, and then all I can say is, I guess that's what the game's (major) audience wants.
or maybe the contrast between Shizuka's cuteness and her innocent pvertion conytibutes to that moe factor
 

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If you're not on some routes some days can seem awkwardly short. Like there are days where you'll literally wake up, have a short conversation then go to bed if you're not on any of the routes that feature that day. That's just the way it is when things are optional and I think making some alternate scenes where the MC just kills time to stretch the days are really not worth it.

The day you're talking about played out a little differently. Breakfast in the morning, work in the afternoon, Lily in the evening and Priya at night. You do have a point but you picked about the worst day as an example :ROFLMAO:

As for the Nana and Shizuka sleep scene missing, that's definitely a problem in my book. I like those scenes and when you have 40 girlfriends you need to sleep a lot if you wanna give them all a turn
Well, it's only my opinion. And the way I play it, the MC is always with someone, because I didn't reject anyone until now. So I do see all scenes, but while it's a very good amount of renders each update, they're mostly still splitt up into two days. And this let, at least for me, feel each day still quite short. It's not a big issue, I will still play your game, because I like it. In the end, it's your decision, how you want to continue your game. I just wanted to give some kind of feedback, or better worded, mention my opinion. And I do understand your reasoning, it is a big cast and getting all some time to sleep with the MC might be difficult.

Thank you for taking your time to read my opinion and even to answer it.
 
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Well, it's only my opinion. And the way I play it, the MC is always with someone, because I didn't reject anyone until now. So I do see all scenes, but while it's a very good amount of renders each update, they're mostly still splitt up into two days. And this let, at least for me, feel each day still quite short. It's not a big issue, I will still play your game, because I like it. In the end, it's your decision, how you want to continue your game. I just wanted to give some kind of feedback, or better worded, mention my opinion. And I do understand your reasoning, it is a big cast and getting all some time to sleep with the MC might be difficult.

Thank you for taking your time to read my opinion and even to answer it.
Oh, you should play WVM (if you haven't) every day in this game feels like a year, with hundreds of encounters every day. ;)
 

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Fun game, I must say though I am not finding the latest updates that interested, the content with the Aunt and daughter, up till about there was for me really good...then it started to get weird, loose itself and become messy. I am not trying to nitpick at all, its just my 2 cents of the game. I am hoping the dev can start to focus on some old characters again and not drag the game out with more woman, maybe just flesh out the characters that are there more? Just a thought
 

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Though I feel like I'm missing something. When did you criticize the game and people bullied you?
I was just speaking in general terms in regards to that, but there was the whole content discussion thing here in the GH thread, though. But I saw you responding to me in a very nice way after my initial post, so if I have any grievances, it would be towards the people who replied that day, and not you as a dev. And while you pointed out the same things as some of them, you kept it civil and corteous, and I salute you for that.

But there was one incident here on F95, on another game thread, roughly around the same time as my content comment here in this thread, where people were so obnoxious towards me, I was basically forced to delete my initial comment, because people were being total assholes in their replies, facepalming, et cetera. But I did also leave a comment in that thread, about me deleting the initial comment not being me "admitting defeat", but rather a way to avoid the hassle they were giving me, just because they didn't agree with my opinion, which in itself, is quite ridiculous, having to resort to that, but I'm sure some of them still saw my deleting of the initial comment as a "victory" for them. I hope that clears things up for you a little bit?

And thankfully, days like that, luckily don't come along too often. But I guess it's like someone said in this thread, some people feel entitled in some kinda way, and that their opinion takes presedence over the opinion of others, especially if your opinion contradicts the majority one. And sometimes, they go way too far with it.
 
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