Freezer14

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It's a shame this Klaus revelation has derailed the thread, because I think it would be a lot more interesting to discuss the odd family dynamics in this update. Last release, Haley was clearly terrified by the idea of her mother knowing what the twins were up to, and even seemed scared to talk to her. No such issues with her father. Their dad treats both twins equally and fairly, but their mother overtly favors her son. Yet Haley was also insistent on the gift, which felt like an attempt to appease a cold parent...and it kinda/sorta worked, as long as the MC played along.

Haley has some clear commonalities with her mother...physically, sure, but also some character traits...but I'm really curious why there's this strange and so-far unexplained favoritism, and were it not for Klaus I think this is what we'd be talking about.

This whole release was full of revelations about Haley. The bathroom scene. Nick. And then the postcoital convo. She's an incredibly rich and complicated character, and I'd hate to see that lost over an obsession with one particular aspect of her past.
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El Tanque

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I don't really know what's stranger... Think that a 15 year old girl, tries to comfort a 45 (or more) year old man with sex, because he's sad, "to make the game and the characters believable"...?:ROFLMAO:
Or the reaction, or rather, the lack of reaction on the part of the brother... clenching his teeth, really? Hahaha.

Logic in porn video games, hahahaha is of another level. :ROFLMAO:
 
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iiRise

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peraonaly as Brit I think in the UK.
pedophilia is a distription of what is considered a psychiatric disorder and not the actual act, if anyone where charged with anything it wouldn't be pedophilia It would most likely be statitory rape. unless it's been changed ? which I dowt legaly speaking you can't legaly consent if your under age. so anyone having sex with someone under the legal age is still commiting rape. and I belive the term for that person is rapist and pedophile. as for a teacher having sex with any student will be seen as grooming as well as "abusing their position of trust" and is likly to result in at least dismisal and if the student is under age the police may push for prison time. that said although the age of the student may legaly matter. morally speaking even if the student is over the legal age its still abusing their position of trust.
Just sayin
I work in a legal firm here in the UK and you 100% nailed it, Paedophilia is the interest not the actual action (Legally speaking) The action itself is either Child exploitation, rape, statutory rape / Sex with a minor.
 

iiRise

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You guys may argue about whats right and whats wrong but one things for sure, this update made me really uncomfortable. And that is not what I am looking forward to in an erotic game. It might actually be better off not knowing, like if you knew who your GF's been fucking before you. Yes, she isn't a virgin that magically stayed faithful but its just unnecessary information that really sours that whole relationship you have been building in this game.
I guess it depends what you think these types of games are, Is it a game made for the sole purpose of you fapping one out to, or is it made because the Developer is trying to tell a story that contains erotic elements that you decide to Fap to? As far as i know and if i am wrong please correct me the Developer dosnt classify the game as "Porn" so therefore might not be solely for sexual gratification?
 
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I agree. I think Haley's endlessly fascinating. One of the best characters I've ever experienced in an erotic game in that I actually feel like she's a real personality rather than a series of tropes or mindless reactions to the player's sexual urges.

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After romantic Sex the Girl you love tells you: "Hey btw, when I was 15 I fucked my old-ass Math-Teacher, just so you know! Who the fuck does that? ...

The only reasonable end now would be the MC seeks out this Math-Teacher, murders him and then either kills himself or moves far far away .../THEEND
 
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Freezer14

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I agree. I think Haley's endlessly fascinating. One of the best characters I've ever experienced in an erotic game in that I actually feel like she's a real personality rather than a series of tropes or mindless reactions to the player's sexual urges.

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Definitely. I wasn't trying to imply that she's regretful (though rereading that, I can see that I didn't do the best job describing that), more that she was afraid of ruining that close relationship that she had with her brother, and when she found herself in the situation with Klaus, it was a more relieved feeling, that she didn't have to worry about messing something up with him, and maybe she found something in that relationship with Klaus that she never expected to find, and because she didn't have anything holding her back like with her brother, she could let it happen and enjoy it. Let herself give in, and not have to feel the regret, that maybe she would have if she had tried to do something with her brother.
 
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Segnbora

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Yeah, I can see that.

I'm still curious about her mother, though. There has to be a reason she treats Haley that way. And I think she's likely the most responsible for Haley's quirks...both her personality and her sexuality.
 

preglovr12

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Yeah, I can see that.

I'm still curious about her mother, though. There has to be a reason she treats Haley that way. And I think she's likely the most responsible for Haley's quirks...both her personality and her sexuality.
Maybe it was Haley's nightmare and not MC's. I pray MC's not so dense to not see the Nick thing and her mom treats her like shit. Her brains making shit up to make it seem bas worse as possible.

I also find it extremely interesting that the first position they try is the daydream one MC has at Adriana and Dick's house. Maybe it's a reference, or just one chosen at random. Mor maybe they're having a shared dream.
 
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Walter Victor

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A month ago, after the last release, I made the following observation: "I have never felt such an empathetic connection to any characters in any game (porn or otherwise), as I feel for these two."

NOTHING I have seen in this release has in any way or form altered my thinking on that issue. I still care deeply about what happens to these two individuals.

Was I disturbed by Haley's reveal? Of course I was. But, if anything, that only increased my empathy for what they have endured and are still enduring. I am certain that there will be more 'enduring' before this game is over.

Now I have to endure another month of waiting before I can get my next fix. Fortunately, there are other games out there to occupy my mind (and libido).
 

The Archduke

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Honestly, she doesn't tell you that your the best...or even that your any good at all...….think on that Daddy!!

I'm not exactly sure what to make of it to be honest.
On one hand if it's true, it's statutory rape, even if she thinks she initiated it...…..the teacher knows better (there's a reason that it's called jailbait) it comes with a mandatory 15 to 25 years prison sentence, and all that has to happen is it to be rumored, and not necessary for a girl or guy involved to press charges.

On the other hand, as some have pointed out, past is past at this point...……...but I think there's more to it than that.
I think she's telling him this to infuriate him to be aggressively dominate (playing to her kink) and that was just a story to get him there. She's done it a few times before to get him riled up.

Also I was getting the vibe, that she may have been a cock virgin....not toy or vibe, just cock. She definitely had Jack and even repeated what he had said to her (with his 3 inch dragon), but she didn't say how he fucked her, she may have just blown him a lot.

Given how detailed her fantasy story, and how they enacted it out in detail, where in even that she saved her V- card for her brother.....whom she always had that sexual desire, lust, and love for.
Mostly shown with the guy she dated, that looked like the MC, but didn't have sex with.

Honestly, the teacher/tutor story just doesn't fit at all.....so I think she made it up or made it more than what it was, to rile the MC up. I think the MC was the one to take her V-card and actually claim her....as she always wanted and fantasized about.
I believe that she may reveal that once they get home, unless the MC ends up going to jail for beating the guy, and she has to reveal it sooner (while feeling like a piece of shit) for it backfiring.

All in all it was an OK update, and wished it didn't stop where it did Lol!!…………………….Peace!!
I choose to believe that know
 
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