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The takeaway I got from this update was that:

A) The sister chose to give her first time so nonchalantly away to Mr Klaus yet claiming that she had a strong sexual attraction to MC very early on tells me that she had or may still have a stronger sexual attraction towards Mr Klaus compared to MC.

B) This was definitely not a one time thing since we know she seems to dislike having sex with her boyfriend so probably doesn't warrant her saying that she "fucks alot" if its just with her boyfriend yet she claimed she only did it to comfort Mr Klaus. The sentence itself seems to hint no deeper feelings to her old teacher yet her words contradict it.

C) The plot seems to be driven towards MC confronting Mr Klaus in the future, and yet the sister seems defensive of Mr Klaus. I suspect if MC were to aggressively confront Mr Klaus, she will side with Mr Klaus instead.

D) We can all agree her "daddy" kink most likely came from Klaus so his impact on her emotionally and sexually is monumental where she insist on using it even in a separate relationship with her ex and the MC.

I don't want to say it but it does feel like cheating, not in a full NTR way but her character feels like she can easily be swayed/ taken away by Mr Klaus if he is ever back in her life.
 

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Haven't tried this before. The initial impression of the generic title and cover art made this game seem skippable.

This game's actually quite good with clever and funny conversations and realistic (for porn) characters. The characters have personalities, likes, dislikes, and quirks. The downside is I turned down some characters in case that negatively impacts a path. (So, going to have multiple path saves.)

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Looking forward to see where this goes.
 

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The takeaway I got from this update was that:

A) The sister chose to give her first time so nonchalantly away to Mr Klaus yet claiming that she had a strong sexual attraction to MC very early on tells me that she had or may still have a stronger sexual attraction towards Mr Klaus compared to MC.

B) This was definitely not a one time thing since we know she seems to dislike having sex with her boyfriend so probably doesn't warrant her saying that she "fucks alot" if its just with her boyfriend yet she claimed she only did it to comfort Mr Klaus. The sentence itself seems to hint no deeper feelings to her old teacher yet her words contradict it.

C) The plot seems to be driven towards MC confronting Mr Klaus in the future, and yet the sister seems defensive of Mr Klaus. I suspect if MC were to aggressively confront Mr Klaus, she will side with Mr Klaus instead.

D) We can all agree her "daddy" kink most likely came from Klaus so his impact on her emotionally and sexually is monumental where she insist on using it even in a separate relationship with her ex and the MC.

I don't want to say it but it does feel like cheating, not in a full NTR way but her character feels like she can easily be swayed/ taken away by Mr Klaus if he is ever back in her life.
A) Nah.. I don't think she has any strong feelings for mr klaus.. I do think he took advantage of her 'comforting' him.. Comforting can mean a wide range of things.. hug, hand on shoulders, soft words, kiss on he cheek etc.
B)Yea, she definitely fucked Klaus alot as she says when they went to get tutored, she'd fuck klaus... So I'm 100% sure there were other instances..
C)I agree that we will confront Klaus, but I think she will get mad cause she thinks that situation is HER fault, not to defend the teacher, she will be like.. 'You have blame me, not him' Or something like that.
D)I agree, then I disagree. The daddy thing definitely came from that relationship, and you have to remember, she liked MC before that and even after that, going so far as to like someone that looked like him too.. So no, she won't be swayed and or taken from the MC, he'd probably have to literally go to prison for murder, even then she'd probably do cordial visits.
 

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I think the developer has made tendancy of making all the girls uninteresting so far.. The first girl is just forced on you mc seem to be not really interested she goes away and mc still seem to be in relationship with her when can break off with her ??

The next one is Diane finally a girl that seem interesting all we get is hey fuckbuddy.. the other one i dont even remember her name so uninsteresting was she, she was even screaming a boyfriend name during intercouse.. and now Haley..

So let me get this straight is Haley only main girl mc is suppose to be with or do we get some real choices for main girls ??

I would have been fine if diane was the only real choice, i liked her model better then the other girls anyway..
 
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ThatGuyWithaAfro

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I see alot of people saying seduce instead of comfort... Did she say seduce? Her saying comfort is telling to me. Like maybe she went for a hug and he pulled her into a kiss and got sexual. HER being 15 didn't push him away but went along with it.

If she seduced him, she would have said she seduced him... Not comforted him.. I comfort my brother when he's feeling down.. Comfort is not seducing.

I just re-watched the scene, she said COMFORTING. Now I believe she only is taking the blame because she initiated body contact[a hug] and the teacher took advantage. Comforting someone DOES not lead to sex.
 

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Have you watched the game's script file?
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It's not written in the same style as the other parts of the game, but it made me wonder if the end of the episode was just a dream.
 
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I think the developer has made tendancy of making all the girls uninteresting so far.. The first girl is just forced on you mc seem to be not really interested she goes away and mc still seem to be in relationship with her when can break off with her ??

The next one is Diane finally a girl that seem interesting all we get is hey fuckbuddy.. the other one i dont even remember her name so uninsteresting was she, she was even screaming a boyfriend name during intercouse.. and now Haley..

So let me get this straight is Haley only main girl mc is suppose to be with or do we get some real choices for main girls ??

I would have been fine if diane was the only real choice, i liked her model better then the other girls anyway..
yup our poor mc cant catch a break,yes he gets to fuck most of the girls in the game but a decent relationship,no way in hell. its like the devs like to troll with us : ohh look a pretty girl and you can have sex with her..my bad you wanted a relationship with her? not gonna happen...and now with Haley : hey guys you really want a relationship with her? well lets throw some curve balls at you and see how you gonna like her then...edit : i didnt think it would be possible but they really made Haley unlikable,at least for me that is
 

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The way this scene played out has been foreshadowed for several releases, ever since Haley revealed that the MC was her childhood crush. If their mother hadn't called, the exact same scenario would have played out in their apartment in the last release. Because that's the way she had always fantasized about it happening. Having them actually consummate their relationship in his old bed, allowed her to completely fulfill her childhood fantasy in the location she had always pictured it.

In my opinion the scene was masterfully presented in a tour-de-force of fantasy becoming reality by the developer.

I should also mention that the scene also played out as the MC had imagined it, back when he almost lost control with her. Of course, he never imagined it happening in his old bed.

They still live together, so there is plenty of time to explore other aspects of their relationship, be that more romantic or otherwise. But the way it happened was EXACTLY the way Haley wanted it to happen... and the MC didn't mind it one little bit.
Yes, but if you remember when they got the phone call from Mom they were fooling around and Haley freaked out because it was like Mom was right there and the very next night they have sex for the first time while the parents are right there. Obviously the parents were not in the same room, but the night before Mom was not even in the same town. If the scene had been more spontaneous like Haley suddenly appears in MC's room or even better MC sneaks into his old room where Haley is sleeping (why didn't MC let her have the bed?) instead of planning it earlier in day. It was like they had an appointment. But if like you said she was fulfilling her fantasy, why did she ruin the fantasy by telling MC about her former sex life? Was that a part of her fantasy as well? MC was already upset about the ex-boyfriend, the revelation about his girlfriend, and she adds on Mr. Klaus. She knew how MC was going to feel about the affair. If this was the moment of which she always dreamed, she did everything she could to ruin it; at least for MC if not for her.
 

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I see alot of people saying seduce instead of comfort... Did she say seduce? Her saying comfort is telling to me. Like maybe she went for a hug and he pulled her into a kiss and got sexual. HER being 15 didn't push him away but went along with it.

If she seduced him, she would have said she seduced him... Not comforted him.. I comfort my brother when he's feeling down.. Comfort is not seducing.

I just re-watched the scene, she said COMFORTING. Now I believe she only is taking the blame because she initiated body contact[a hug] and the teacher took advantage. Comforting someone DOES not lead to sex.
This shit is sounds like straight up emotional manipulation. Victim is a teen girl who's unloved and vulnerable. Pedo teacher makes "friends" with her then show her how much depressed he is. What the FUCK does a 15 year old girl know about divorce? Nothing. She opens up and the teacher uses the opening. Now in her mind he didn't force her but now she sees all relationships from that point of view. Her second relationship fails. She insists on calling her brother 'daddy' and shit.

I've spend decades with teachers in school, outside school and what not. Not one told me their spouse left him/her. We much later came to know some had family deaths/problems but not from the teachers themselves. The teacher is a piece of shit plain and simple and should be executed.
 

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We can all agree her "daddy" kink most likely came from Klaus
We can't and don't. It's hardly an unusual thing for a submissive to call her dominant; often it's explicit and codified in their d/s relationship. And Haley's submissiveness predates Klaus, which you can see in her description of how she wanted her brother to treat her after taking the blame for her when they were younger. "Daddy" comes from her own head. Submissiveness isn't externally imposed.

I agree that we will confront Klaus, but I think she will get mad cause she thinks that situation is HER fault, not to defend the teacher, she will be like.. 'You have blame me, not him' Or something like that.
I agree with this. The way she tells the story she acknowledges that it looks wrong to her brother, but the expression on her face demonstrates that she's quite content with the "comfort" and what she got out of it. The confrontation with Klaus might not matter compared to the confrontation this could cause between the MC and Haley if they have a severe disagreement over it. Now that would be good drama.

I think the developer has made tendancy of making all the girls uninteresting so far
I think this game features some of the most interesting women in adult gaming. All of them are distinct personalities and all of them have layers. Even Lisa.

I see alot of people saying seduce instead of comfort... Did she say seduce?
No, but it's in the context of a conversation where she's listing her sexual partners. You're right that it could have been him that turned a non-sexual gesture into a sexual encounter, but the way she describes it (as a unidirectional gesture from her to him) suggests the opposite. Again, this has precedent: Haley made almost all the initial sexual gestures to her brother and she was willing to do the same to "get back" at Adriana.

I guess we'll see if they're going to get into more detail. Since it's already problematic content, though, they might not.

MC was already upset about the ex-boyfriend
No he wasn't.
 

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We can't and don't. It's hardly an unusual thing for a submissive to call her dominant; often it's explicit and codified in their d/s relationship. And Haley's submissiveness predates Klaus, which you can see in her description of how she wanted her brother to treat her after taking the blame for her when they were younger. "Daddy" comes from her own head. Submissiveness isn't externally imposed.


I agree with this. The way she tells the story she acknowledges that it looks wrong to her brother, but the expression on her face demonstrates that she's quite content with the "comfort" and what she got out of it. The confrontation with Klaus might not matter compared to the confrontation this could cause between the MC and Haley if they have a severe disagreement over it. Now that would be good drama.


I think this game features some of the most interesting women in adult gaming. All of them are distinct personalities and all of them have layers. Even Lisa.


No, but it's in the context of a conversation where she's listing her sexual partners. You're right that it could have been him that turned a non-sexual gesture into a sexual encounter, but the way she describes it (as a unidirectional gesture from her to him) suggests the opposite. Again, this has precedent: Haley made almost all the initial sexual gestures to her brother and she was willing to do the same to "get back" at Adriana.

I guess we'll see if they're going to get into more detail. Since it's already problematic content, though, they might not.


No he wasn't.
Not Jack, the ex-boyfriend that they met in town. The one she did not have a sexual relationship. He was upset when they talked to him that day.
 
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Have you watched the game's script file?
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It's not written in the same style as the other parts of the game, but it made me wonder if the end of the episode was just a dream.
Hahaha! Are you on the right thread? This is the thread for Haley's Story. Who the hell is Tracy? There is no Tracy in this story. Which might explain why the script segment you provided is not in the same style as Haley's Story?

But let us know what game it is from. I might want to check it out.
 

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The confrontation with Klaus might not matter compared to the confrontation this could cause between the MC and Haley if they have a severe disagreement over it. Now that would be good drama.
Drama is pretty much inevitable i'm just looking forward to making the pedophile swallow some of his own teeth XD
 
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Hahaha! Are you on the right thread? This is the thread for Haley's Story. Who the hell is Tracy? There is no Tracy in this story. Which might explain why the script segment you provided is not in the same style for Haley's Story?

But let us know what game it is from. I might want to check it out.
Haley -> game -> script.rpy there it is. Might be false alarm because I dug the trashbin and that same text is also in Hayley 0.50
But it's not in the game, so what's the purpose of it
 

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Haley -> game -> script.rpy there it is. Might be false alarm because I dug the trashbin and that same text is also in Hayley 0.50
But it's not in the game, so what's the purpose of it
It's commented out in the code, this could just be a troll to anyone who goes digging, it's not in the game nor will ever be, more than likely it was left there on purpose to mess with people. That literally could be a scene from Dreams of Desire would be my guess.

Sometimes devs put things in the code to mess with people who go digging, I've seen it more than once.
 

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I don't think it is true that Haley is submissive. If anything she is the dominate one in the relationship with MC. The whole thing with her telling MC that it all on him has nothing to do with submission in my opinion. She was already in love with MC, he was just starting to discover he feelings for her. She had to wait for him to catch up. She also did not want the responsibility for the relationship. They have always been close, if the relationship as lovers does not work out will it destroy what they had.

Hopefully, the "Daddy" thing does not come Mr. Klaus. It would be better if it was because MC was always her protector. If she called MC the pet name that she had for another lover, she might have well just called him Mr. Klaus. When MC confronts Mr. Klaus, I think this story will be over for a lot of people if Haley sides with Mr. Klaus. Best case scenario, MC confronts Mr. Klaus. Haley shows up and realizes that Mr. Klaus had manipulated her and that she was really hurt by the relation. MC deals out some measure of retribution. It could he hits Mr Klaus once and Haley stops it there saying Mr. Klaus not worth it.

Let's be realistic there is no chance this ends up being a dream. I just hope it ends up some way that allows me to continue enjoy this story. Some one said that pledges have increased after this update, that's disappointing. It just means we are more likely to have additional updates like this one. I said before that this is one of my two favorite games. The other is Ptolemy's ALEXANDRA. On both Ptolemy's and Viitgames' Patreon pages it said that Ptolemy was on vacation. Perhaps this update is the result of Viitgames working on his own. Maybe when Ptolemy returns he can right this ship. Ptolemy responds to posts in the ALEXANDRA forum, so he seems to care what player's think. I have not seen any posts from Viitgames so he may not. Has anyone seen posts from either one of them in this forum? I'd really hate to lose this game.
 

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Yes, but if you remember when they got the phone call from Mom they were fooling around and Haley freaked out because it was like Mom was right there and the very next night they have sex for the first time while the parents are right there. Obviously the parents were not in the same room, but the night before Mom was not even in the same town.
Of course Haley freaked out when her mom called. Just like she freaked out when her mom walked in on them when they were setting up the couch for her bed and they had been teasing each other. But the having to be quiet was exactly fulfilling her fantasy, because that was how it would have to have been in that fantasy. In fact, while they are in the middle of things, Haley explains, "I'd have to stifle my screams so Mom and Dad wouldn't hear." This was happening exactly as she had always imagined it.
It was like they had an appointment.
Well, they did. It was mentioned twice, at least.
But if like you said she was fulfilling her fantasy, why did she ruin the fantasy by telling MC about her former sex life? Was that a part of her fantasy as well?
Of course it wasn't. Actually the confession had stemmed from her earlier teasing in the girls bathroom at the school. She thought she needed to explain her prior sex life to him, since she had left a poor impression earlier. So she volunteered the number of lovers she had had.
She knew how MC was going to feel about the affair. If this was the moment of which she always dreamed, she did everything she could to ruin it; at least for MC if not for her.
He was the one who insisted that she name names, after she revealed the number. She didn't want to do that at all, until he said, "You opened this can of worms." So, her failure was to consider that the MC would have to know that information, once she had started down the path of revelation. She had no intention of ruining anything. Rather it was an example of an unintended consequence of not looking ahead.
 
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