VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[Walter Victor]

Show us where in the game there is proof that such an action actually took place, and I'd be more than happy to concede a rape occurred.

Do you really want the developer to show us the actual act? I'd just as soon forego that particular trauma.

Hailey told the MC (and us) that it happened. I'm going to believe what she said, unless/until the developer provides evidence to the contrary.

 

[greyelf]

Haley tells us herself this happened.

Hailey told the MC (and us) that it happened.

That is generally known as "Hearsay evidence", and in many situations it would be considered inadmissible if it was the only evidence that an action/event occurred.

Do you really want the developer to show us the actual act?

There are evidence types other than visual that could be use to corroborate the MC's statement, until that occurs then we have no proof that anything happened, thus no proof of the crime that some are making so much noise about.

I could state that I'm the queen of Sheba, that I regularly dine with the Aga Khan, and that I have eight toes on my left foot. And without proof of such claims it would all be hearsay.

 

[apnea111]

Do you really want the developer to show us the actual act? I'd just as soon forego that particular trauma.

Hailey told the MC (and us) that it happened. I'm going to believe what she said, unless/until the developer provides evidence to the contrary.

Sry bro but the act Is already shown.
Its there in the story described in every little detail. And checking every ntr scene stereotypical box.

Had 2 lovers, wasnt too thrilled fucking the 2nd one but "She Fucks a lot"
Teacher - student.
48 years old dude - 15 years old virgin girl
Possible sub - dom relationship
Story revealed in the most uncomfortble time and in the most uncomfortble way.
No regrets.
No empathy from a character that its main quality till now was catering.
A relationship that possibly defined sexual behavior.

Do you need the opical cues (the renders)
to figure it out?

Its funny in a game till now was unique at the writing of the story, the written story suddently Is not enough and People need to see it rendered to believe it or feel uncomfortable

Also an ntr stereotypical issue. A state of denial after being cucked. You need to watch the sextape to figure it out.

Not misuderstand me. Dev didnt cuck the MC in Last update.
No aditional tags needed.

He just kinda cucked the story, the character qualities, the way that game was developed till now. (and the fanbase Who plays the game for the previous reasons)

No reasons at all to see it rendered so People Who cant read, or People in denial figure it out.
That shit Is already in story. Only thing it will bring Is aditional shitstorm in the thread.

And probably those ntr fapping hyenas, Who can smell ntr content even vibes from a thousand miles away

Already luring around..

 

[Freezer14]

That is generally known as "Hearsay evidence", and in many situations it would be considered inadmissible if it was the only evidence that an action/event occurred.


There are evidence types other than visual that could be use to corroborate the MC's statement, until that occurs then we have no proof that anything happened, thus no proof of the crime that some are making so much noise about.

I could state that I'm the queen of Sheba, that I regularly dine with the Aga Khan, and that I have eight toes on my left foot. And without proof of such claims it would all be hearsay.

Okay, would you prefer she somehow miraculously take us back in time to witness it, or perhaps show some form of biological evidence that his penis was inside of her five years ago (if so, good luck)? Why would she falsify a story about this, immediately after living out her biggest fantasy, and telling her brother, whom she appears to love more than anything in the world, right after they had sex for the first time, and then claim that she "wasn't trying to make [him] angry?"

Imagine she was your sister. Who would you side with? The girl you've known every day of your entire life and her "hearsay evidence", or some skeezy-ass math teacher from high school that's more than three times your age? Would you just be like, "Okay, I'm cool with my teacher fucking my teenage sister at our private tutoring sessions"? Would you refuse to believe it unless you saw it? Would you assume your sister was lying since there's no proof? Regardless of whether it's hearsay or not, if that story gets out, the bastard loses his job, and his life is ruined. Haley doesn't seem like the type of person who would make something up for that to happen. What reason would she have? Hell, she takes responsibility for it. And it's something that, for benefit of the doubt, I'll say "if". IF it happened, he shouldn't have let it. When it comes to statutory rape, and especially when it's a teacher, it doesn't take near as much to convince people. Sure, there's no hard evidence. But it's her word against his. And when a 48 year-old is accused of having sex with his 15 year-old student, his word doesn't mean as much to people as hers. That's just how things are.

 

[Walter Victor]

hat is generally known as "Hearsay evidence", and in many situations it would be considered inadmissible if it was the only evidence that an action/event occurred.

This is a porn game, not a court of law.

There are evidence types other than visual that could be use to corroborate the MC's statement, until that occurs then we have no proof that anything happened, thus no proof of the crime that some are making so much noise about.

I could state that I'm the queen of Sheba, that I regularly dine with the Aga Khan, and that I have eight toes on my left foot. And without proof of such claims it would all be hearsay.

You can state whatever you want, and believe whatever you want. That is all your decision.

The entire last scene plays out as Hailey telling the MC the truth. If, as you suggest, she is lying in her teeth, it completely besmirches (and even destroys) her character, and makes her completely unworthy of the MC's love. At that point, I withdraw my financial contribution to the developer, and find another game to play. It would be a good way to get rid of me from this thread. However, I don't have any doubt that I will still be here after the next release, because throughout the entire game, in every release, there has never been an instance of Hailey being untruthful to the MC. I don't need some lawyer telling me that's not enough evidence, because for me, it is. That is MY belief and decision.

I doubt that I have changed your mind here, but I can assure you that further claims of 'hearsay' will never change mine. Only the developer can do that. I await HIS/HER further evidence.

 

[Walter Victor]

Sry bro but the act Is already shown.
Its there in the story described in every little detail. And checking every ntr scene stereotypical box.

Had 2 lovers, wasnt too thrilled fucking the 2nd one but "She Fucks a lot"
Teacher - student.
48 years old dude - 15 years old virgin girl
Possible sub - dom relationship
Story revealed in the most uncomfortble time and in the most uncomfortble way.
No regrets.
No empathy from a character that its main quality till now was catering.
A relationship that possibly defined sexual behavior.

Do you need the opical cues (the renders)
to figure it out?

Its funny in a game till now was unique at the writing of the story, the written story suddently Is not enough and People need to see it rendered to believe it or feel uncomfortable

Also an ntr stereotypical issue. A state of denial after being cucked. You need to watch the sextape to figure it out.

Not misuderstand me. Dev didnt cuck the MC in Last update.
No aditional tags needed.

He just kinda cucked the story, the character qualities, the way that game was developed till now. (and the fanbase Who plays the game for the previous reasons)

No reasons at all to see it rendered so People Who cant read, or People in denial figure it out.
That shit Is already in story. Only thing it will bring Is aditional shitstorm in the thread.

And probably those ntr fapping hyenas, Who can smell ntr content even vibes from a thousand miles away

Already luring around..

I have been wondering how the developer could portray this.

We assume that Hailey will keep her word and answer all of the MC's questions. During that exposition, we could flash back in time, and show scenes and dialogues between Hailey and Klaus up until (but before) things actually get physical between them. Then switch back to present time.

I REALLY do NOT want to see any form of sex between them.

But, we will have to see how the developer plays it, if it is played at all.

 

[apnea111]

I have been wondering how the developer could portray this.

We assume that Hailey will keep her word and answer all of the MC's questions. During that exposition, we could flash back in time, and show scenes and dialogues between Hailey and Klaus up until (but before) things actually get physical between them. Then switch back to present time.

I REALLY do NOT want to see any form of sex between them.

But, we will have to see how the developer plays it, if it is played at all.

I totally agree.

Read your previous opinion about Last update and at some points i have the exact oposite opinion.

But As far how things proceed from now dev cant backtrack. Or bypass this continuing the story As it never happened.

He has to deal with things in a reasonable and believable manner.

For me Last update was far away from the way this game developed till now. Forced content, not consistent characters, bad dialoques.

But that shitty situation Is Already in the story and you cant fix it by adding aditional shit.

For me main cliffhanger for Last update was the way dev treated their game.
Its was so different in terms of pace, vibes, dialioques, structure it left me questioning?

Was the writer on vacation? Where they drunk? Was that cheap drama stereotypical content Forced to story and by whom?

I mean dev has posted this preview pic few posts before.



Prior to Last update we could all see that witty smiling haley in that pic.

But after Last update and the way dev presented her, Is she happy or in an trance, same trance she had at the after sex scene?

Is she smiling cause of happiness or just being sarcastic and unepmpathetic to her brother?

Is that a regular bike, or since dev managed to cover all the stereotypical porn game tropes, a dildo mounted one?

 

[ThatGuyWithaAfro]

Yeah, she likes sex. What a slut!

Ehh, Not the point I was making but ok..

 

[ThatGuyWithaAfro]

Show us where in the game there is proof that such an action actually took place, and I'd be more than happy to concede a rape occurred.

Lmao dude... Haley literally tells us she had a sexual relationship with her 48 year old teacher when she was 15..

 

[ThatGuyWithaAfro]

Sry bro but the act Is already shown.
Its there in the story described in every little detail. And checking every ntr scene stereotypical box.

Had 2 lovers, wasnt too thrilled fucking the 2nd one but "She Fucks a lot"
Teacher - student.
48 years old dude - 15 years old virgin girl
Possible sub - dom relationship
Story revealed in the most uncomfortble time and in the most uncomfortble way.
No regrets.
No empathy from a character that its main quality till now was catering.
A relationship that possibly defined sexual behavior.

Do you need the opical cues (the renders)
to figure it out?

Its funny in a game till now was unique at the writing of the story, the written story suddently Is not enough and People need to see it rendered to believe it or feel uncomfortable

Also an ntr stereotypical issue. A state of denial after being cucked. You need to watch the sextape to figure it out.

Not misuderstand me. Dev didnt cuck the MC in Last update.
No aditional tags needed.

He just kinda cucked the story, the character qualities, the way that game was developed till now. (and the fanbase Who plays the game for the previous reasons)

No reasons at all to see it rendered so People Who cant read, or People in denial figure it out.
That shit Is already in story. Only thing it will bring Is aditional shitstorm in the thread.

And probably those ntr fapping hyenas, Who can smell ntr content even vibes from a thousand miles away

Already luring around..

You're stretching it my dude..

 

[ThatGuyWithaAfro]

I have been wondering how the developer could portray this.

We assume that Hailey will keep her word and answer all of the MC's questions. During that exposition, we could flash back in time, and show scenes and dialogues between Hailey and Klaus up until (but before) things actually get physical between them. Then switch back to present time.

I REALLY do NOT want to see any form of sex between them.

But, we will have to see how the developer plays it, if it is played at all.

I just think we will find out that their relationship was more of a comforting thing.. Don't need to see anything between them..

 

[jamdan]

We wont see any sex between Haley and Klaus, she was a minor back then and they(devs) wouldn't want to get in trouble.

as far as NTR content in the future, come on guys. Do you really think Haley is gonna try to bone Klaus? She wouldn't even kiss her boyfriend and made him sleep on the sofa because she wanted MC so bad. She isn't going to bang a 50 something year old former teacher, she loves MC. and MC hasn't been cucked, the players haven't either. This is like the dream scene from Our Fate, people howling at the moon for a scene they didn't like but that scene was used to portray how the MC felt (in Our fate) and revealed some of Haley's past in this game. Players aren't supposed to like those scenes, but their purpose is to make you want to protect Haley and bring her/MC closer together.

 

[DarkSithLord47]

We wont see any sex between Haley and Klaus, she was a minor back then and they(devs) wouldn't want to get in trouble.

as far as NTR content in the future, come on guys. Do you really think Haley is gonna try to bone Klaus? She wouldn't even kiss her boyfriend and made him sleep on the sofa because she wanted MC so bad. She isn't going to bang a 50 something year old former teacher, she loves MC. and MC hasn't been cucked, the players haven't either. This is like the dream scene from Our Fate, people howling at the moon for a scene they didn't like but that scene was used to portray how the MC felt (in Our fate) and revealed some of Haley's past in this game. Players aren't supposed to like those scenes, but their purpose is to make you want to protect Haley and bring her/MC closer together.

the dream scene from our fate was a mistake cause it appeared on all paths and backfired just like this one in Haley's story..dont know what the purpose of it was here cause it sure as hell didnt make players want to get closer to Haley but the oposite it made her look more manipulative then ever,more stupid ( maybe not back then when she was 15) but now cause she cant even realise that what happened back then is that she was raped and is hurting the mc/player and last but not least the lack of mc's reaction when she told him about her sex life,if we at least had the opportinity to smack Haley on the head and tell her she's being a moron it would have soften that update a bit

 

[apnea111]

We wont see any sex between Haley and Klaus, she was a minor back then and they(devs) wouldn't want to get in trouble.

as far as NTR content in the future, come on guys. Do you really think Haley is gonna try to bone Klaus? She wouldn't even kiss her boyfriend and made him sleep on the sofa because she wanted MC so bad. She isn't going to bang a 50 something year old former teacher, she loves MC. and MC hasn't been cucked, the players haven't either. This is like the dream scene from Our Fate, people howling at the moon for a scene they didn't like but that scene was used to portray how the MC felt (in Our fate) and revealed some of Haley's past in this game. Players aren't supposed to like those scenes, but their purpose is to make you want to protect Haley and bring her/MC closer together.

Mate are you really basing your arguement on what is ntr or not on another games scene (our fate) in which the mc in oerder to to cope with his feelings concerning his love or lust interest he dreams about her fucking another guy?
I mean WTF!!!

Here is the catch. Developers arent by default smarter from the average member of this forum.

Everybody understands that no developer who has a common sense will intoduce ntr content in a game which is about a romantic relationship. Build up the story , the charachter, the anticipation , and then bring a random guy to fuck your girl.

So what they do (this is a latest trend)?

BORDERLINE NTR CONTENT

They check(or hardcheck) all the boxes that define ntr content , leaving deliberately one box unchecked.

So from out of nowhere a guy who loaths a girl in order to portray his feelings is dreaming a random dude fucking the shit out of his love interest!!! (no ntr, just a dream)

Or you know what? I had a fight with my girl and we broke up. She then fucked another guy (still no ntr, the Ross Geller argument "We were on a break")

You have sex for the first time with a girl that the main asset of her character was how loving and catering was against you?
"Wonna now how many dudes i fucked before? Two, but i fuck a lot. Oh dont push me to tell you who. Ok i will tell you the first. Oh if i tell you the second you will get angry. OK, the one that took my virginity was our teacher. I was 15 and he was 48.After school tuturing. It was not his fault. I pursued this because he seemed sad. No i wont answer you if the daddy thing is because of that. i love you. Goodnight daddy"
(no ntr, happened in the past)

I mean WTF. Do developers think that we cant see the obvious?

They trigger the same feelings as ntr without being ntr. They make a hype or test the waters without having to bare the burdon of the ntr tag.

But the main thing is that you cant intoduce a plot twist without twisting the game characters. So when the plot twist is ntr or ntrish oriented characters are also twisted that way.

 

[bauman]

For me main cliffhanger for Last update was the way dev treated their game.
Its was so different in terms of pace, vibes, dialioques, structure it left me questioning?

Was the writer on vacation? Where they drunk? Was that cheap drama stereotypical content Forced to story and by whom?

One of the people working on the game posted in the thread a few pages back. They mentioned everything is pre-planned well in advance, so we should assume they A) wanted a change of pace, introducing a twist to the story or B) they expected a different feedback from the players.

 

[Drone_for_a_Day]

Please, oh, please Moderators step in and end this nonsense. It went nowhere last week, it's going nowhere now, and it won't go anywhere in the future...

 

[ThatGuyWithaAfro]

We wont see any sex between Haley and Klaus, she was a minor back then and they(devs) wouldn't want to get in trouble.

as far as NTR content in the future, come on guys. Do you really think Haley is gonna try to bone Klaus? She wouldn't even kiss her boyfriend and made him sleep on the sofa because she wanted MC so bad. She isn't going to bang a 50 something year old former teacher, she loves MC.

Basically.

Really? That's SUPER easy.

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What was the point you were making? Because that's the point I took from what you wrote:

"
I don't think we know that they did it for years yet... But we know they did it MORE then a few times... Which honestly is what's irking me.

If she only did it once and for the reason of 'comfort' like she said.. We can chalk that up to it being just that... But she implies or directly says they did it more then once and it might of been for a long period of time... everytime they went for tutoring she said..

It's tricky... I honestly want to confront HER more then Klaus.. "

What's irking you is not that she did it, but that she did it more than a few times. And you want to confront her about it, not him.





Also - use multiquote instead of making 4 posts in a row. That's spamming.

Well let me clarify, what's irking me is not that she had sex with Klaus dude.. it's she implies she did it out of comfort but obviously, they seem have had a whole little thing going... That's what irking me... I don't care that she had sex alot with klaus... Even if I DID... That still doesn't equal to me calling her a slut.

 

[ltpika]

What the fuck happened to this thread?

 

[johndoe1545]

Obviously we only use the US/UK standard here for age consent, stop bringing in the nuked country standard. We don't use other standard beside the freedom and colonist standard. If i see one more comment about age consent (which can be considered as CP by no-brainer and we don't want that to happen), I will slap a warning or a fucking thread-ban if needed

 

[Segnbora]

I'd like to try to divert the thread into a discussion of the two vastly more interesting — by which I mean debatable and ambiguous, because Klaus really isn't — revelations in the previous update.

1) This is the big one: what the hell is going on between Haley and her mother? Why? This is a huge plot point that's being lost in the nonsense about Haley's past. There's a reason why their relationship is awful. What is it?

2) The MC's high school girlfriend — the one who eventually sold blowjobs in the bathroom — who was she? I don't mean that I want to know anything more about her, but I want to know how she affected the MC. How was his sexuality, which is quite honestly a little "off," informed by her influence?