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What? It is a game with a male protagonist. And the game is named after his sister. What did you expect? Nobody is forcing you into anything. If you don't like the premise play something else.
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I've only played until 0.5 and I liked it a lot. Except for the little thing that I'm forced into a relationship with the black girl (forgot her name).
But after what I read here ..... rape?
I'm out. I realize that the author makes the decisions here, but why was that necessary?
Sounds like NTR and I hate that.
But after what I read here ..... rape?
I'm out. I realize that the author makes the decisions here, but why was that necessary?
Sounds like NTR and I hate that.
- Jul 10, 2017
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You know the game is called "Haley's story" right? It's not called Sandra's story, or "MC's story". If you don't care about the character the game is named after, why on earth play the game?
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Two people who have no idea what's going on in the game (they're not playing it) and yet come here to delight us with their clever opinions.
- Jul 10, 2017
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Truer words have never been spoken my brother, this man here needs a standing ovation
- Dec 13, 2018
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I've reported both of them on the grounds that they spoil the story and have asked that they be removed.
- Sep 30, 2017
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The fact that you call a fellow poster a troll, right of the bat is, already a bad reflection on you and shows bad faith arguments.
Name calling might feel good, but is really not a good way to bring your point accross.
It is clear that some people dislike the direction where the game is heading, and some people, like me, are liking the new direction as it puts more meat on the characters. I don't expect everyone to like it, and yes, I play game for the erotic content, but for me, as for other people, porn that is not the primary reason I play this game. If I just wanted porn, I would go to Pornhub. I also don't enjoy porn games on here with mindless porn. I like some character development, good story telling, believable scenarios etc. in the game.
So to then hear other people saying where is the porn in a porn game, well maybe not in this game would be my answer.
In the end it does not matter what I or anyone else thinks, the Dev is writing the game he wants to write. It's still the same Dev that started with the original story that everyone loved. I trust that dev to write the story he wants to write.
My pet peeve is people wanting to change the dev's mind in terms of the story he wants to write. Share your opinion no issues, but please, let the dev write his story.
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I think this is probably one of the best takes I've seen on this whole issue and it's something I didn't really consider, but you're right. There is an element of people who were raped/groomed feeling shame, like it was their fault and they are somehow to blame, because that's how their assailant makes them feel and Haley could very well be going through this.
I also think there could be an element of Haley still not realising the gravity of what happened to her and believing that her teacher actually cared for when he was really just using her. Her mother probably tried convincing her of that and it's why Haley resents her because, in her mind, what she had with her teacher was real and now she feels like the MC is trying to do the same. It would also explain why the mother doesn't have a lot of faith in Haley because she regards her as having poor judgment because of this incident with the teacher.
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So if a woman who has multiple sexual partners is a used bike, what does that make a guy who has multiple sexual partners?
Should he be regarded as a used up form of transport by women or do you think it's OK for men but not for women?
God, this kind of outdated, misogynistic way of thinking really makes my blood boil.
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A "realistic" lighthearted VN about two siblings fucking each other is anything but realistic.
What is realistic, is finding out that one of the two (the one initiating) or both are a bit fucked up in the head and the reasons why. Something very rare in this genre of games, where incest is treated as a taboo at first but it all evaporates after the first dicking. If you really want "realistic" you can't have incest without some mental issues.
I'm not saying you can't have a lighthearted game with this theme that's good. I just find it refreshing that a game in that genre decided to take a more mature approach.
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By realistic and lighthearted I meant in the context of the adult video game medium. Nobody was doing any incest until the last two updates. There was another path where the MC can be loyal to Sandra that got shafted because players didn't like it. "Haley's Story" doesn't necessary mean she has to fuck her brother. It just means the game is telling her story. It could've been about dealing with her feelings purely on platonic level and getting over it eventually (not saying that would've been the right choice for the purpose of the story). The original game pitch was just two siblings living together and exploring the world around them. If we're talking realistic by IRL standards expect rampant alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual abuse and low level education to follow shortly.
Well, it's not NTR.
IMO, Haley clearly goes through this. First, see how she reacts with the other-elephant-in-the-room: that Sandra is a nice girl that will be hurt. She evades the subject and throws all the decision making to her brother trying to avoid the issue. Judging by that, I would expect she did more or less the same about "I am fucking my married teacher".
While it could be what you say, that Haley "wants to protect" what she thinks she had with her teacher and her mother was giving her a wake-up call, I think that at least to some degree, her mother said "He's horrible but you shouldn't have rubbed on him. He was a married man." It could be a mix of both, or you may be right, but even if her mother didn't blame \ partially-blamed the 15-years-old for seducing the married 48-years-old I believe it would play in Haley's mind.
THAT SAID: That this game spawned lengthy discussions about the title character and her experiences, with may different views and takes, is IMO a testament that the direction the game took is a good one, not an easy one.
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We both know this game was meant to revolve around MC's and Haley's taboo relationship from the start. And if by "exploring the world" you mean exploring each other's genitals, then yes that was always the main theme of the game. You won't see that clearly illustrated in a description of any Patreon game. It was never meant to be a game about MC and the random chick who's not in the game title.By realistic and lighthearted I meant in the context of the adult video game medium. Nobody was doing any incest until the last two updates. There was another path where the MC can be loyal to Sandra that got shafted because players didn't like it. "Haley's Story" doesn't necessary mean she has to fuck her brother. It just means the game is telling her story. It could've been about dealing with her feelings purely on platonic level and getting over it eventually (not saying that would've been the right choice for the purpose of the story). The original game pitch was just two siblings living together and exploring the world around them. If we're talking realistic by IRL standards expect rampant alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual abuse and low level education to follow shortly.
And realistic incest story doesn't have to go for the abusive redneck stereotype. There is plenty of taboo going on in middle/high class urban settings too.
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A realistic incest story doesn't have to go for one of the parties being abused in their child development years stereotype either, but here we are. It's a mark of a good writer who manages to create conflict out of trivial interactions and a mark of a bad one who has to make his characters suffer, so their actions and feelings in the present can be validated by their past experiences. Either way let's agree to disagree.
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Adult games and VNs on this site with deep characters and a serious story to tell are so rare and many like this one are really good. But too many people still expect these games to have wall-to-wall sexual action with one-dimensional female characters and every time that expectation is upended with serious drama they get all bent out of shape because what they view as just a simple porn game doesn't have as much porn as they'd like. The devs in this case are trying to tell a more serious story where sex is involved but these people can't appreciate it.
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My mistake about the test that triggers the response I mentioned. The actual test is in v0.50, after the MC has sex with Sandra after going to the cafe. There is a choice to 'Stay a longer longer'. If you choose that option, you get the extended dialog with Haley that I provided. If you don't even get to that choice, which is possible if you don't take all of the positive choices regarding Sandra, of course you won't get that dialog. In other words, you have to make every choice that furthers the MC's relationship with Sandra. Sorry to have confused you.
But having sex with Diane or Adriana, or who goes on the business trip is not relevant here.
I think it's been a poor choice on the direction to take the story. It's polarising and sets a wildly different tone from where we were going, but it's way too late. Most of us here were just enjoying the lighthearted vibe. Now, some of us are actively disgusted by recent revelations, while others (like myself) who couldn't really give two shits about the dumb shit a girl did in the past are a bit dismayed at the prospect of having to experience it all through an MC who appears to have completely lost composure over it (i.e. the odds of him not making this a big deal going forward feel pretty slim).
Now everything is starting to feel a bit lose lose for everyone. People who relate to MCs opinion here probably still feel immersed in the story, but they aren't going to enjoy it (bad feels). While people who don't relate are going to lose immersion. I think the dev needs to think very carefully over what they do next, because if the direction keeps building on this as the key element they are going to lose a large part of their audience.
Now everything is starting to feel a bit lose lose for everyone. People who relate to MCs opinion here probably still feel immersed in the story, but they aren't going to enjoy it (bad feels). While people who don't relate are going to lose immersion. I think the dev needs to think very carefully over what they do next, because if the direction keeps building on this as the key element they are going to lose a large part of their audience.