Walter Victor

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He is sexually promiscuous because he is having at least one more sexual relationship more than he should have.
And what number is that? If he doesn't have sexual relations with Sandra (a choice in the game which you said you made) or with the other girls (also a choice in the game which you said you made), he has ONE (1) sexual relationship. So, I guess by your definition, one sexual relationship is more than someone should have. So anyone who has sex is a slut! Riigggttttt!!!
 

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I wish that story with Sandra would have been different. She was really nice character and perhaps hottest black woman I've seen in these games. Her only bad sides were that she was workaholic and manically tidy which made relationship with her hard. I could have easily dropped Haley for her if that was bit different.

Btw. I wish we could play prequel/sidestory where we could play as Klaus and seduce virginal students and stepdaughters all around. But at least I have Ecchi Sensei and Headmaster to play with.
 
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Walter Victor

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Btw. I wish we could play prequel/sidestory where we could play as Klaus and seduce virginal students and stepdaughters all around.
Yeah, but when Victor's 'people' catch up with Klaus, that story wouldn't have a very happy ending for you. o_O

If you want a game where Klaus comes out the winner, I'm afraid you may have to write it yourself. :)
 

Kame-Sennin

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Well, (for better or worse) this game is not written by DrPinkCake, so I doubt that we have to fear an Acting Lessons ending. o_O

Then again, Diane does have a kind of Leah-like vibe to her. Just keep a fire extinguisher handy.:)
Well atleast, the other girl that MC won't pick don't have to die like in Acting Lesson and I'm sure that Sandra won't commit suicide if MC choose Haley over her
 

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And what number is that? If he doesn't have sexual relations with Sandra (a choice in the game which you said you made) or with the other girls (also a choice in the game which you said you made), he has ONE (1) sexual relationship. So, I guess by your definition, one sexual relationship is more than someone should have. So anyone who has sex is a slut! Riigggttttt!!!
He has a girlfriend and is sleeping with someone else. If you really can't see the moral issue there, I don't know what to say to you. Look, as I said before, I don't really mind on the morality of it, but most people would regard that as a betrayal and it is therefore rather central to the character you are controlling. So don't you think it would have been better to allow a choice?

I think you are just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. I don't see how you can possibly not get this.
 

Walter Victor

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He has a girlfriend and is sleeping with someone else. If you really can't see the moral issue there, I don't know what to say to you. Look, as I said before, I don't really mind on the morality of it, but most people would regard that as a betrayal and it is therefore rather central to the character you are controlling. So don't you think it would have been better to allow a choice?

I think you are just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. I don't see how you can possibly not get this.
Well, you keep moving the goalposts. First you said the MC was a slut; then it was sexually promiscuous; neither of which you could defend. Now it's a moral issue. Fine! If you claim the MC is cheating on Sandra with Haley, I agree with you. But you are never going to persuade me that in the case we are discussing that this makes the MC sexually promiscuous or a slut.

Morally wrong and cheating - yes. Sexually promiscuous or a slut - not a chance in hell. Words have meaning. You just picked the wrong ones.
 

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Just played this for the first time. It's not often there's a title with a dialogue that's actually interesting and where you don't feel like skipping over at least some of it. But this one of them. Good job. Can't wait for more (y)
 

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Well, you keep moving the goalposts. First you said the MC was a slut; then it was sexually promiscuous;
You yourself gave a definition of the word slut as (and I quote) "sexually promiscuous".

Morally wrong and cheating - yes. Sexually promiscuous or a slut - not a chance in hell. Words have meaning. You just picked the wrong ones.
Well, we will have to disagree then. I think cheating on your girlfriend makes you sexually promiscuous. I don't think many would disagree with this.
 
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Walter Victor

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You yourself gave a definition of the word slut as (and I quote) "sexually promiscuous".
Right. But I have argued that neither term applies to the MC. Also, see below.
Well, we will have to disagree then. I think cheating on your girlfriend makes you sexually promiscuous. I don't think many would disagree with this.
Ahhh! I see the problem.

promiscuous
-adjective
1. characterized by or involving indiscriminate mingling or association, especially having sexual relations with a number of partners on a casual basis.


Your argument falls apart on at least two counts. In the first place there is nothing casual about the MC's relationship with his sister. But also, I don't think anyone reads 'with a number of partners' and believes that the number could be ONE, with the sole possible exception of you. Note also that partners is pluralized. Note also, that in the description of your playthrough, you claim to have rejected Sandra at every choice. So, one sexual partner - Haley.

Dictionaries are readily available, on- and off-line. Please make use of one.

See ya around. Maybe at some point in time, we'll find a subject to agree on.
 
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It was fairly a good update. What I disliked is Sandra's ocd back story, I would like it more if it stayed as a wired quark of her character and not a defensive thing she needs to shield herself.
 

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It was fairly a good update. What I disliked is Sandra's ocd back story, I would like it more if it stayed as a wired quark of her character and not a defensive thing she needs to shield herself.
I understand what you are saying, but to me it seems necessary to tie things together with Haley's problems. I believe that the writers are trying to tell us that abuses like Haley's affect not just the immediate victims, but those that love them. Perhaps the MC will be able to help both ladies with their issues... and help himself to both of them in the process. :)
 

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I understand what you are saying, but to me it seems necessary to tie things together with Haley's problems. I believe that the writers are trying to tell us that abuses like Haley's affect not just the immediate victims, but those that love them. Perhaps the MC will be able to help both ladies with their issues... and help himself to both of them in the process. :)
No, I completely understand why it was done. And maybe you're right about mc helping them both.
 
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Is the Diane scene even worth seeing or should I just use an old save and the skip key next month?
The later.

It was fairly a good update. What I disliked is Sandra's ocd back story, I would like it more if it stayed as a wired quark of her character and not a defensive thing she needs to shield herself.
Sandra ocd back story Is total bs cause the reason for it Is total bs.

Previous updates Last scene was a cliffhanger. Of who was abused in the past. Sandra that would make sense or Victor that would make less sense based to the script?

Dev handled this by "creative" (or just bs) interpretation of their script.

It was just a misnderstanding. Victor saw the MC getting wasted and drinking in his missery to oblivion. Being ungry cause "someone has Hurt a loveone" and wanting to "rip someones head off". And cause of the above victor thought the reason was MC found his sister was abused 30 years ago!!!

Just another Hot and steamy pile of bs served to the the player-reader.

In order for the devs to backtrack the following occur
1) MC Is getting wasted but Victor Is the one with the brain malfunction.
2) The timeline of Victor Sisters case Is problematic.
3) The cause of sandra ocd appears to be also problematic. A girl at her 15 learns that her mommy was abused 20 years ago (cause reasons) and develops ocd (also cause reasons)

Like her or not sandra Is mistreated in Last update. Either in the way her ocd problem was justified or by the way roots are separated.

Harem root? - - - - > lets sleep all together and have a trip to mcs hometown to meet the Family.

Haley root - - - - - > Sandra fuck off girl. No MC you fuck off. No girl you fuck off. Your uncle was portrayed more than a typical buddy few days ago. He revealed me your moms rape case and the cause of your ocd. Well i dont give a fuck. Devs have to separate the roots. So fuck off.
 

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It was just a misnderstanding. Victor saw the MC getting wasted and drinking in his missery to oblivion. Being ungry cause "someone has Hurt a loveone" and wanting to "rip someones head off". And cause of the above victor thought the reason was MC found his sister was abused 30 years ago!!!

Just another Hot and steamy pile of bs served to the the player-reader.

In order for the devs to backtrack the following occur
1) MC Is getting wasted but Victor Is the one with the brain malfunction.
2) The timeline of Victor Sisters case Is problematic.
3) The cause of sandra ocd appears to be also problematic. A girl at her 15 learns that her mommy was abused 20 years ago (cause reasons) and develops ocd (also cause reasons)

Like her or not sandra Is mistreated in Last update. Either in the way her ocd problem was justified or by the way roots are separated.

Harem root? - - - - > lets sleep all together and have a trip to mcs hometown to meet the Family.

Haley root - - - - - > Sandra fuck off girl. No MC you fuck off. No girl you fuck off. Your uncle was portrayed more than a typical buddy few days ago. He revealed me your moms rape case and the cause of your ocd. Well i dont give a fuck. Devs have to separate the roots. So fuck off.
I've finished reading this today so I can say that you're somewhat mis-remembering it. Victor thought MC found out about Sandra's problem i.e the abuse and thought that she had told MC about what went down with her mother. The mother's erratic behaviour is what affected Sandra which is what the writers were trying to convey.If Victor wasn't established as someone who didn't have a rapport with MC I'd agree with you but they are going for tennis, go for drinks etc. , being open and frank about his partner and giving advice so I'd say it's justified for them to be talking openly about this.

Another thing is that this isn't a typical story where you jack of within 5 minutes if you are actually playing for the story. Unlike Midnight City which starts with a sex scene, here you see your first one hours into the game if you are focusing on the main heroine i.e Hayley.

I personally was only focusing on Hayley but I think Sandra has to be the GF at first because otherwise the MC isn't able to realise what his sister feels for him and he finally understands the huge conflict which is why the break up scene comes immediately after MC and Hayley both sleep together after so much deliberation from each other. The game name also makes it clear that in the end it is "Hayley's Story" after all.

Really enjoyed the writing for this game! One of my new favorites!!
Yes, I agree and I like how there is a build up to the interactions with sister. These are different genres of course so can't compare but personally I am a fan of games like this and "No More Secrets" where the character interactions are the main focus. I'm glad that there are a variety of games out there like this where story is at the forefront! I'm not one for the Incest relationships so I was surprised by myself that I actually played till the end.
 
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