VN Ren'Py Completed Haley's Story [v1.1 Pre-Patched] [Viitgames]

[AM97]

does anyone have a working save where Diana is a fuckbuddy ?

 

[Walter Victor]

In this case, after my "all-out" playthrough (which was fine), going back tot he start I was just surprised that I couldn't really choose not to be a slut

The MC (in that case) is in love with his sister and is dating another woman (probably without sex, if I read you right). And that makes him a 'slut'? Seriously?

As I said in my previous post, the developer has decided that the game makes no sense if the MC does not have sex with his sister. I agree with him. The drama introduced in the last few episodes compels it. Without that sex, the drama would not have the impact that it does.

The developer has given us choices with all of the side girls, and even with Sandra to an extent - we can choose for the MC never to have sex with her. But Haley? Uh-uh! That is too important to the game.

 

[Alleykatt]

The MC (in that case) is in love with his sister and is dating another woman (probably without sex, if I read you right). And that makes him a 'slut'? Seriously?

If you are fucking someone who is not your girlfriend/boyfriend, whilst having a girlfriend/boyfriend, then yeah, you're a slut. That isn't meant to slut shame (I leave judgement out if it) but is it pretty much the definition of the word.

 

[ZTex]

If you are fucking someone who is not your girlfriend/boyfriend, whilst having a girlfriend/boyfriend, then yeah, you're a slut. That isn't meant to slut shame (I leave judgement out if it) but is it pretty much the definition of the word.

No it's not.
Slut has negative connotations. Merely the act of fucking someone whose not you boy/girl doesn't make you a slut, you only get that label negatively, you can fuck someone who you're not in a relationship with and just be in an open relationship.

 

[bauman]

The protagonist's behavior doesn't make him a slut, but it makes him a hypocrite for dating Sandra, while he's in love with Haley. And it makes him a horndog, if he's fucking every other woman in sight at the same time.

 

[Walter Victor]

If you are fucking someone who is not your girlfriend/boyfriend, whilst having a girlfriend/boyfriend, then yeah, you're a slut. That isn't meant to slut shame (I leave judgement out if it) but is it pretty much the definition of the word.

We will have to agree to disagree. At least I know where you are coming from now.

However, if you really want a definition:

slut
-noun

1. Disparaging and Offensive a sexually promiscuous woman, or a woman who behaves or dresses in an overtly sexual way.

2. Informal a person with a seemingly insatiable but often undiscerning desire to do or have something specified.
guilty of being a shoe slut.
a book slut, reading five books at once.

3. Archaic
a. a prostitute, harlot.
b. an immoral or dissolute woman.
c. a dirty, slovenly woman.

Allowing the substitution of man for woman, at best you are using the word in its most archaic form.

Oh well, you have your opinions and are free to express them. I hope you can at least get some satisfaction out of this game, in spite of the MC being a total slut.

 

[Walter Victor]

The protagonist's behavior doesn't make him a slut, but it makes him a hypocrite for dating Sandra, while he's in love with Haley. And it makes him a horndog, if he's fucking every other woman in sight at the same time.

Hypocrite? I don't see that. In the first part of the game, before that actual sex act, the MC is conflicted and confused. He is trying to figure out what he wants with regards to his sister, while trying to have a normal relationship with a girlfriend.

After they have sex, the MC wants to break up with Sandra (and may do so, if you choose that route), but Haley persuades him not to (again, if you choose that route).

At no point do I see the MC professing a belief in one thing, while doing something else.

I'll give you the 'horndog' part, but only if a player goes that route... like me.

 

[Ragnar]

He's a cheater, a man slut for some people, the moment he fucks Haley still being Sandra's bf.
That's why I don't like to be forced into Sandra by the game.

 

[botc76]

I'm not that interested in the whole Haley was sexually abused story, since I don't know how it will play out.
Whether she was actually willing or not makes a lot of difference to me, even if the guy was a teacher.
Not that it wouldn't still be wrong in my eyes if a teacher has sex with a minor who is one of his students, but wether I would call it rape or just unethical behaviour pretty much depends on the age of the minor and other circumstances.

 

[botc76]

Also, Sandra keeps on getting sweeter and sweeter.
She appears like a genuinely nice and honest person. I understand that some don't want the MC to be in a relationship with her, because being with Haley seems like cheating to them, but I for one wouldn't want to miss it.

I'm always up for polyamorous relationships or harem, so I don't mind, but if that wasn't a possibility, I'd even like the option to break up with Haley and stay with Sandra.

 

[bauman]

Hypocrite? I don't see that. In the first part of the game, before that actual sex act, the MC is conflicted and confused. He is trying to figure out what he wants with regards to his sister, while trying to have a normal relationship with a girlfriend.

After they have sex, the MC wants to break up with Sandra (and may do so, if you choose that route), but Haley persuades him not to (again, if you choose that route).

At no point do I see the MC professing a belief in one thing, while doing something else.

I'll give you the 'horndog' part, but only if a player goes that route... like me.

He's having feelings for another woman and doesn't tell Sandra. Maybe hypocrite is a strong word. Weak-willed is the proper term I guess.

 

[apnea111]

I find him to be a typical dude in his early-mid 20s. Even more concidering this Is a porn game and players mainly are playing it for fapping reasons.

In my understanding halleys stance Is far more hypocritical and Yet again a common thing in rl.

A woman which one Is fucking her body while at the same time another one Is fucking her brain.

 

[balinorr]

I'm not that interested in the whole Haley was sexually abused story, since I don't know how it will play out.
Whether she was actually willing or not makes a lot of difference to me, even if the guy was a teacher.
Not that it wouldn't still be wrong in my eyes if a teacher has sex with a minor who is one of his students, but wether I would call it rape or just unethical behaviour pretty much depends on the age of the minor and other circumstances.

statutory rape is a crime like it or not and although we don't know the whole story we know that Haley was 15 at the time her teacher had sex with her and by the looks of it, it was her first time so it is fair that MC is angry and mad about this, it being consensual or not but lets see how they deal with it when they take a trip to their home town next month.

He's having feelings for another woman and doesn't tell Sandra. Maybe hypocrite is a strong word. Weak-willed is the proper term I guess.

this is why you could have chosen to not to do anything with sandra, his relationship with her wasn't ideal anyways, not that i think sandra was a bad girl in fact i think if we could have a dedicated path for her i would play it but since day one tension was in the air between Haley and MC and i personally chose to stay on Haley dedicated path and since i didn't choose any intimate course with sandra i didn't feel that guilty about cheating on her with Haley either(although i kinda liked it if we had a choice to not go out with such a good person in the first place, but she was a bridge between us and our boss so .....)

 

[botc76]

statutory rape is a crime like it or not and although we don't know the whole story we know that Haley was 15 at the time her teacher had sex with her and by the looks of it, it was her first time so it is fair that MC is angry and mad about this, it being consensual or not but lets see how they deal with it when they take a trip to their home town next month.

this is why you could have chosen to not to do anything with sandra, his relationship with her wasn't ideal anyways, not that i think sandra was a bad girl in fact i think if we could have a dedicated path for her i would play it but since day one tension was in the air between Haley and MC and i personally chose to stay on Haley dedicated path and since i didn't choose any intimate course with sandra i didn't feel that guilty about cheating on her with Haley either(although i kinda liked it if we had a choice to not go out with such a good person in the first place, but she was a bridge between us and our boss so .....)

"Statutory rape is a crime..."

It's only statutory rape if it involves sex with someone under the age of consent.
I know Americans pretty much think their laws are there for everybody, but in reality whether it is statutory rape and thus a crime very much depends on the age of consent and as far as I know that's not even 18 years old in all of the US states.
In Germany it's 14 (unless it's a relationship where the older person has power over the younger one), in fact most countries in Europe set it between 14-16, which means it wouldn't be a crime there.

Yes, Haley's Story seems to be set in the US, so it would technically be a crime there, but even given that, that doesn't change that I think that at least someone 15-16 years old is old enough to decide to willingly have sex, even if the other person is over 18.
I still think that it's wrong for a teacher to have sex with a pupil/student, but it definitely isn't rape for me if it is consensual.
In fact, I think if we are being honest we all had teachers we would have loved to have sex with, if given the chance.
And hell if I know how that would have hurt me. As if magically having sex with someone older than 18 would traumatize you and sex with someone below that age wouldn't.

For me the repressed position many Americans have in regards to sexuality has led to a culture, which pretty much denies to acknowledge that people under the age of 18 are still sexual beings (at least publicly, while at the same time having young singers strut their stuff in music videos, that look like softcore porn), but for me it's just plain wrong that a 19 year old kid gets treated like a rapist because he had consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.
It's completely fucked up and has probably ruined many people's live and otoh people get girls senselessly drunk at frat parties, rape them and get of with a short probation. It's just completely insane.

 

[mugizib]

In Germany it's 14 (unless it's a relationship where the older person has power over the younger one), in fact most countries in Europe set it between 14-16, which means it wouldn't be a crime there.

(unless it's a relationship where the older person has power over the younger one)

Despite all the useless rant about americans, I think here would be a crime, he was her teacher.

 

[balinorr]

"Statutory rape is a crime..."

It's only statutory rape if it involves sex with someone under the age of consent.
I know Americans pretty much think their laws are there for everybody, but in reality whether it is statutory rape and thus a crime very much depends on the age of consent and as far as I know that's not even 18 years old in all of the US states.
In Germany it's 14 (unless it's a relationship where the older person has power over the younger one), in fact most countries in Europe set it between 14-16, which means it wouldn't be a crime there.

Yes, Haley's Story seems to be set in the US, so it would technically be a crime there, but even given that, that doesn't change that I think that at least someone 15-16 years old is old enough to decide to willingly have sex, even if the other person is over 18.
I still think that it's wrong for a teacher to have sex with a pupil/student, but it definitely isn't rape for me if it is consensual.
In fact, I think if we are being honest we all had teachers we would have loved to have sex with, if given the chance.
And hell if I know how that would have hurt me. As if magically having sex with someone older than 18 would traumatize you and sex with someone below that age wouldn't.

For me the repressed position many Americans have in regards to sexuality has led to a culture, which pretty much denies to acknowledge that people under the age of 18 are still sexual beings (at least publicly, while at the same time having young singers strut their stuff in music videos, that look like softcore porn), but for me it's just plain wrong that a 19 year old kid gets treated like a rapist because he had consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.
It's completely fucked up and has probably ruined many people's live and otoh people get girls senselessly drunk at frat parties, rape them and get of with a short probation. It's just completely insane.

although i dunno why everyone is so fixated on the "rape" part of this otherwise awesome game but
you contradicted yourself by saying ---->(unless it's a relationship where the older person has power over the younger one)<----
a teacher has obvious power over student and can force said power in any number of ways so there goes "Germany" xD
as for other things you said like age differance of 2 years or students having crush on teacher etc we can debate over and over and never get anywhere with it because there are always, ALWAYS special cases.

P.S : im not from US, im aisian and i can say it is a crime in alot places for teachers to have sex with student consensual or not but otherwise EVERYWHERE it is frowned upon.

 

[apnea111]

Well its kinda "grab them by the pussy" era in america so the rant Is legit regardless how progressive its legal system or society Is.

AT Some point People should "get the memo" that the case Is a statutory rape case and its dealt this way in the story so we can get on with it.

There Is none modern country or society in the world where a consentual relationship between a 17 and a 19 years old Is considered rape.

In the same way there Is none where a relationship between a minor below age of consent and a 45 years old teacher Isnt considered a statutory rape or a sexual abuse case.

 

[Alleykatt]

We will have to agree to disagree. At least I know where you are coming from now.

However, if you really want a definition:

slut
-noun

1. Disparaging and Offensive a sexually promiscuous woman, or a woman who behaves or dresses in an overtly sexual way.

Removing the gender distinction (how very un-woke of you to be so gendered!) your first definition applies too (though not the dressing part). He is sexually promiscuous because he is having at least one more sexual relationship more than he should have.

He's a cheater, a man slut for some people, the moment he fucks Haley still being Sandra's bf.
That's why I don't like to be forced into Sandra by the game.

Yeah, that was my feeling too. Like I said earlier, I played him as a man-slut fucking everyone the first time through, and wasn't complaining. I just was a bit disppointed when I went back and realised that my supposed choices did nothing.

And on the last point, I have to agree with apnea111 concerning the teacher - certainly where I live this would be very illegal and punishable by a life time on the sex offender's registry.

 

[ZTex]

Removing the gender distinction (how very un-woke of you to be so gendered!) your first definition applies too (though not the dressing part). He is sexually promiscuous because he is having at least one more sexual relationship more than he should have.

Says who ?
Who is defining what's an acceptable number of sexual relationships ?

 

[goobdoob]

Not even an arguement you are presenting here.

I was unaware of that game and not willing to play it. Even though in the game description its noted that after you rape the victims you can continue raping them until you break them. Actually a trainer rape game.

This game has exactly 100 likes. You had to dig deep to the list of Games labeled with rape tag to prove exactly what?

I will go to the top of the list. MC in milfy city Is a rapist. He rapes his teacher in the stereotypical porn perception of rape. Being pleasurable. The rape in that game Isnt even a part of a story. Just a side fapping material.

MC in dod Is also a rapist. Raping his Family in their sleep or under a spell. Again the stereotypical porn perception of raping.

In fact in almost all top 30 Games taged with rape tag, the perception of rape Is the stereotypical porn perception. You rape them until they like it.

In few of them rape Is presented in its True nature, and on none of them the rape case Is the storys main plot.

Someone noted that this game Is a love story.
I guess even in its current state.
And noted that the rape case Is a "mcguffin".
Actually a device to progress story, but insignificant, irrelevant and unimportant in itself.

Totally clueless.
Game Is indeed a love story. But everything in Last updates Is about the rape case. Dealing with the aftermath of it. Healing haley and dealing with the rapist. Plus sex scenes.

When you fuck a rape victim while you believe he Is adressing you they way he adressed her rapist. When not cleancing teeth in anger recalling the incident, when not trying to discuss it, when not trying to confront the rapist, when not getting wasted or clearly misserable, in a way others can tell Something is clearly troubling you.

And Some People try to argue that this Is not a "rape game" when the arguement Is that this now a typical rape STORY.

Cause the MC in HS became autistic we are destined to become autistic also.

Debate Over the obvious. That HS in it current state Is a story that everything Is turning around a rape case. Dealing with the aftermath of it. Dealing with the trauma or dealing with the rapist.

A typical rape story where the "mcguffin" in most cases Is the act and everything about the story Is the aftermath.

Although not taged, actually one among the few Games in this site that a rape case Is presented nearly its True nature. And among the fewer that a rape case Is the core of the plot and not a side fapping material.

Ps. Unclesvt " kicking ball in the stands" womens usa soccer team edition, was better than yours rapelay edition

I had to dig deep to find a rape game? Dude, you said rape games didn't exist. They do. I didn't dig to find RapeLay, it's famous. Read this, it's a much better writeup than the description that got you thinking it's a rape trainer -

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When you say something doesn't exist, I don't need to find a game that fits that something with a lot of likes, I just need to find one that fits the criterion.

And I'm not going to play this either.

So, how do you go from "there is no such thing as a rape game" to naming lots of MCs in games who are rapists?