felicemastronzo

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First of all the MC is NOT a boy. He is a grown post collegiate, over the age of 21, who is holding down a full time professional job living apart from his parents.

Second, while is probably true that most of us have people in our past and or present whom we'd claim to hate, how many of them raped an underage member of our immediate family, got away with it, and based on our observations has done the same to others over the years? That may create a response rather more intense than hatred. Out of the broad distribution of people and their possible responses, some percentage would elect for direct intervention to correct Klaus waking away. We can debate whether or not that falls into an "adult" response, but that's not relevant to the choice to act or not.

The events in Victor's life certainly could have sensitized him to react as he did when it happened to him and his family before, generating a reaction that considered more calmly wouldn't have occurred. We're given only the slightest insight into that event in Victor's life, so we have no real basis to judge if his offer to the MC was believable, except he availed himself of the option at the time.
you are right, I have oversimplified

but being an adult is not an anagraphic fact, MC is for the first time outside the family home, for the first time he is really the master of his actions. moreover, he is facing an extraordinary situation.

Victor, on the other hand, is more experienced, and has had the misfortune to find himself in a very similar situation. in fact, at the beginning, the advice he gives to MC is very mature, he prepares him for the worst and makes it clear that it cannot be him who helps Haley, but that he needs a professional, a therapist. up to that point, he is very mature.

in that moment mc knows very little about what happened to his sister, practically nothing, that's why showing him the shortcut right away is really very risky on Victor's part. Victor goes from being a positive mentor to a tempting devil.

but also narratively the whole parenthesis of the gangsters is a foreign body to the story, there is no continuity between the visits to the second Haley, Haley's self-awareness and the brutal shortcut that MC decides to take.
 
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it is one thing to feel a strong rage towards someone, another thing to let this rage vent, another thing again to have him eliminated by dubious third parties.

we have all hated someone in our lives, but i don't think we have all contacted a hit man.

Let's say that the offer in itself of Victor is not very credible, ok he had a similar experience, but to make such a proposal to a boy naturally still shaken by what he has discovered is really a gamble. Victor doesn't even wait to find out how the therapy is going, he immediately proposes this shortcut, and immediately afterwards tries to withdraw it... who is the adult?
I know people that after going to the police and getting no justice have hired not just a hitman but entire death squads to avenge loved ones. I also know people that just take it lying down. Personally I have had the experience of having an uncle abducted and an attempted abduction on my youngest sister and can tell you that at times like that hiring mercenaries to deal with shit is not an outlandish prospect.
 
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v1900

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but also narratively the whole parenthesis of the gangsters is a foreign body to the story, there is no continuity between the visits to the second Haley, Haley's self-awareness and the brutal shortcut that MC decides to take.
Yup the whole thing just fizzles out like it was never a big deal, that too bothered me a lot.
 

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it is one thing to feel a strong rage towards someone, another thing to let this rage vent, another thing again to have him eliminated by dubious third parties.

we have all hated someone in our lives, but i don't think we have all contacted a hit man.
And none of us is a fictional character in some story. [Well, speaking for myself at least.] For an extreme example of a mild character exacting ultimate revenge in fiction, I recommend you watch the movie Straw Dogs.
Let's say that the offer in itself of Victor is not very credible, ok he had a similar experience, but to make such a proposal to a boy naturally still shaken by what he has discovered is really a gamble. Victor doesn't even wait to find out how the therapy is going, he immediately proposes this shortcut, and immediately afterwards tries to withdraw it... who is the adult?
Victor is a side character. We know little of his past, except for the small part he tells us before bringing up the possible solution to the MC's problems.. For all we know he was raised by the Sopranos or the Corleones.
 

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My understanding is that the whole gangster thing wasn't originally part of the story.
It was added at the insistence of people that REALLY wanted to deal with the teacher somehow.
But I kinda agree. It doesn't really fit in with the rest of the story.
 
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mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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My understanding is that the whole gangster thing wasn't originally part of the story.
It was added at the insistence of people that REALLY wanted to deal with the teacher somehow.
But I kinda agree. It doesn't really fit in with the rest of the story.
I wouldn't be surprised if the whole gangster thing was there just to do Alexandra cameo
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the whole gangster thing was there just to do Alexandra cameo
Think of it this way - if the developers really want to have an option to eliminate Klaus, and one of those developers happens to have another game whose MC happens to be a gangster who kills people... DUH! :D

Ready-made, no-cost models.
 

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Hey guys, any idea what is the name of the music ? I heard it as well in Away from home but I can't find the title.
 

PervySageKem

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Really sad that Haley wasn't a virgin and that story with the teacher made my guts contort in pain, everything else was going fine before that...

Is there any fan made patch for that like in "My Sister My Roomate"?
 
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Totaly loved this game, Haley herself was so undeniably adorable and loving it was awsome, it left me wanting to do more playthroughs.
 

PervySageKem

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Was it really necessary to make the whole thing with Klaus that in depth and specific? Telling us how long it went and shit? Pretty fucking disturbing dude.
 
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I'm always choosing the negative option with Sandra, how the hell can I get out of her path? Please some one explain how the endings work, I don't want to be with her because I don't want to cuck her...
 

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also seen the ending of Haley, good, strangely enough I preferred the "imperfect" one which seemed to me more entertaining, than the theoretically perfect one.

it's strong the impression that a couple of chapters were missing, that then it was decided to cut (is it possible that deciding to take the law into your own hands doesn't imply any consequence? the relationship with the parents, that remains very interesting between half accusations and not clarified relationships, doesn't reach an epilogue that is positive or negative. It remains a very positive game, above 4 stars but not 5 stars (another thing I didn't like is the repetition of exactly the same patterns in the insults between Haley and MC, a bit boring).

in the end Haley's is my favorite ending, followed by Lisa's, Adriana's is the worst, it had some interesting ideas but it's developed in a really superficial way (I think I've already said enough about Sandra's... but it's still more enjoyable than Adriana's)
What are the different ways to get Haley's perfect vs. imperfect ending? Could you help?
 

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The walkthrough doesn't explain how to get each ending, is there an ending guide anywhere? Sorry for the spam.
They seldom do. And it's kinda weird. I remember when i used to play old style japanese eroge, when the world was young and fair, that the walk throughs where like

Eding 1
choice 1
choice 2
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choice n

Ending 2
choice 1
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choice n

It made a lot more sense to me that to tell you how many points you get for a coice, all put togheter not even knowing if a choice damages a route or is unavailable/incompatible with another.
 

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What are the different ways to get Haley's perfect vs. imperfect ending? Could you help?
I'm always choosing the negative option with Sandra, how the hell can I get out of her path? Please some one explain how the endings work, I don't want to be with her because I don't want to cuck her...
to avoid Sandra you have to choose the worst answer when she announces that she is going to work in another country, that way your relationship will end on her next visit


the difference between haley's two endings depends on the scores, with a low score you will have a shorter and less romantic ending (but more fun in my opinion)
 
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LeeToo

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Was it really necessary to make the whole thing with Klaus that in depth and specific? Telling us how long it went and shit? Pretty fucking disturbing dude.
Sorry, but what do you mean by "How long it went"? Played it a long time ago, was going to give it a new run, last time I played Haley was having therapy sessions cuz MC finally makes she realize that she was abused.

Another thing. IIRC Haley said that she had a lot of sex, but idk if it was only me who thought she was lying/joking. Do we get a awnser to that question?
 
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Sorry, but what do you mean by "How long it went"? Played it a long time ago, was going to give it a new run, last time I played Haley was having therapy sessions cuz MC finally makes she realize that she was abused.

Another thing. IIRC Haley said that she had a lot of sex, but idk if it was only me who thought she was lying/joking. Do we get a awnser to that question?
She only had sex with three people: the MC, the ex-boyfriend Jack and the Professor. Since she mostly avoids Jack, it's implied that she didn't have a lot of sex with him.

Regarding the "how long it went", I meant the affair. I haven't finished the game yet, but I reach the part when she explains that after Mr. Klaus guilted her into having an affair with him, it lasted 3 weeks. We don't know how much he abused in the meantime, but either way it's extremely uncomfortable to read. I get the devs make the story they want, but things like this are very rough on the players of a game that's supposed to be about romance. This is porn at the end of the day, people watch it to feel better not worse.

Either way, in a game where the twin sister is supposed to be in love with the MC since forever, the existance of a boyfriend at all is very "lore breaking" and the existance of a rapist 30 years older is just to cause pain to the reader/MC. All in all, decisions the dev is and will always be free to make... But it still doesnt make them good decisions ahahahah
 
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