Incest in general or sibling incest?Anyway, the reason why I had a look in this thread:
I miss this game. Can anyone recommend something similar? A well writen incest story without too many LI's?
Incest in general or sibling incest?Anyway, the reason why I had a look in this thread:
I miss this game. Can anyone recommend something similar? A well writen incest story without too many LI's?
Try Red Lucy - this (amongst others) has B/S-incest with a smoking hot sister.Anyway, the reason why I had a look in this thread:
I miss this game. Can anyone recommend something similar? A well writen incest story without too many LI's?
The 'never' was meant in the context of the story before the sexual abuse was revealed. We never got hints that Haley was fighting with her inner demons, or that it impacted her life in any way. As for the therapy sessions themselves, we only experience them tangentially, except for the one where we were briefly present (at least in my playthrough, I don't know if other paths have more therapy content.)What about all the therapy sessions?
Well, I like siblings because they are more equal.Incest in general or sibling incest?
Will do, thanks!Try Red Lucy - this (amongst others) has B/S-incest with a smoking hot sister.
Pre-patched is already patched i.e. it comes w/ the incest patch included.So what does the "pre-patched" version mean? Am I missing out on anything playing this one instead of, what I'd assume is, the "post-patched" version?
Oh, maybe I'm just not used to the lingo, don't think I would have guessed it'd mean that. Thanks!Pre-patched is already patched i.e. it comes w/ the incest patch included.
Try sisterly lust if you haven't already and romance just the sister that you like.Well, I like siblings because they are more equal.
You're welcome.Oh, maybe I'm just not used to the lingo, don't think I would have guessed it'd mean that. Thanks!
Don't worry about it. You are hardly the first (or 10th or 20th or... nnnth) person who has been confused by the lingo.Oh, maybe I'm just not used to the lingo, don't think I would have guessed it'd mean that. Thanks!
I'm not sure if Klaus was that important. There was a connection between the MC and Haley way before Klaus, which didn't turn physical but IIRC both already fantasized about it.In a more ambitious narrative, Klaus could've meant something. An honest, unstinting examination of whether Haley's attachment to her brother was authentic or born of trauma. Or both? It would be utterly fascinating to see an incest game really dig into the "why" of it all.
Haley and her brother were one of the most brilliant and believable brother-sister relationships ever, sexual or not.
Ultimately, Klaus wasn't important because the devs gave up on his story. But Haley makes the connection between what he did to her and subsequently clinging to her brother (when they were both much younger) explicit, and it's fairly clear that her mother isn't blind to the timing of the connection...even if she doesn't know how it manifested.I'm not sure if Klaus was that important. There was a connection between the MC and Haley way before Klaus, which didn't turn physical but IIRC both already fantasized about it.
Not trying to fact-check you, but do you remember how Haley makes that connection? I remember them talking about Haley having had feelings for the MC for a long time, and the MC admitting that he thought of her in a sexual way only once. But I missed her making that connection to Klaus.Ultimately, Klaus wasn't important because the devs gave up on his story. But Haley makes the connection between what he did to her and subsequently clinging to her brother (when they were both much younger) explicit, and it's fairly clear that her mother isn't blind to the timing of the connection...even if she doesn't know how it manifested.
You're absolutely right about this. Guy leaves home for 6 months, after returning, all females in his vicinity want to jump his bones... Exploring actual reasons would be interesting. It doesn't have to be trauma, it could be a boy stepping up and taking care of his family, becoming an attractive man to them. Exploring those conflicting emotions, the push and pull, could make for an interesting and erotic story. Hell, it doesn't even need to be incest related. A boy stepping up and becoming a man is in itself is a reason to suddenly get the attention from women.I have a deep and ongoing annoyance with most incest games because almost none of them attempt to justify flipping the attraction switch (much less following through on it) outside porn logic; there's a boy, there's a sister/mother/aunt, and they will inevitably fuck because Reasons. Far too many of them advance plots with things like sleep rape, because the authors aren't mature or sexually experienced enough to conceive of any other possible reason that a woman would want to have sex with someone who'd previously been considered off-limits. I'd find these games a lot more interesting if there were reasonable justifications in the narrative. And I'm certainly not saying that I want incest games to be tortured psychodramas about childhood trauma, the Westermarck Effect/sexual imprinting, or crushing waves of guilt that only decades of therapy can solve, because no one would play games like that.
I could swear that there was a conversation between two someones in which Haley's attraction to her brother escalated post-Klaus. But I'm not going to go back to the game (which I no longer have on my hard drive) to check, so maybe I'm making the whole thing up.Not trying to fact-check you, but do you remember how Haley makes that connection?
I'm not saying that she knows about the siblings' actual activities, but that she has a very specific view of Haley's decision-making abilities and why she needs to rely on her brother, while at the same time having a negative view of that reliance because she doesn't respect her daughter. That, to me, suggests that she understands (perhaps subconsciously) that there's something dysfunctional about the siblings' relationship.Their mother knows what happened with Klaus, since she put a stop to it. [...] I don't think the mother knows that the siblings are intimate, and her motivation has more to do with having little trust in Haley's life choices.
Exactly.You're absolutely right about this. Guy leaves home for 6 months, after returning, all females in his vicinity want to jump his bones... Exploring actual reasons would be interesting.
Oh right, In that case we agree completely. I would've loved exploring her motivations more. I wouldn't be surprised if it's caused by the "keeping up appearances"-syndrome, and using her son to avoid the daughter bringing shame to the family (again).I'm not saying that she knows about the siblings' actual activities, but that she has a very specific view of Haley's decision-making abilities and why she needs to rely on her brother, while at the same time having a negative view of that reliance because she doesn't respect her daughter. That, to me, suggests that she understands (perhaps subconsciously) that there's something dysfunctional about the siblings' relationship.
Haley's dad, of course, rather strongly suspects something's going on, and acts accordingly.I wouldn't be surprised if it's caused by the "keeping up appearances"-syndrome, and using her son to avoid the daughter bringing shame to the family (again).
But he also does this in a boundary crossing way. I get that he's worried, but checking up on her while she's at therapy? That's a big red flag. I don't understand why Haley wasn't mad at that intrusion.Haley's dad, of course, rather strongly suspects something's going on, and acts accordingly.
From what I remember, Sisterly Lust does this, somewhat. It's been a while, so I could be entirely wrong. The path with the older sister is more difficult and longer, with her love path opening by taking care of her and being there for her, and a submission path using blackmail. (I suspect this game started that whole trope, but I can't be sure.)I would just love to see a game that took the inevitable reluctance seriously. I don't mean that the game has to be a massive slow burn — one sister could be "I've always wanted my brother, because (let's have the game give us some reasons other than he's been touching her while she sleeps)" while the other proves a difficult puzzle to unlock — but make it make sense, at least.