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Krynh

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Good looking game, but the time between updates is quite the killer. I know good work can't be rushed but where chapter 1 ends on is rather anti-climatic.
 

Krynh

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Why the "Never Have I Ever" game though? is that really a mini game? I consider a mini game something akin to QTE = that ball game. Never Have I Ever plays a role, story wise. You get to learn about the girls (you even get an achievement for doing so) yourself (I guess since IDK what the hell the MC has done...)
the never have I ever shouldn't be skipped. It's not a qte and it's part of the plot.
 

Bloodguard

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the never have I ever shouldn't be skipped. It's not a qte and it's part of the plot.
I agree, in fact, it should be expanded to include some dialogue between turns, as that would make the game more believable, and is a good opportunity to get to know the characters better. At least that's the purpose these types of games serve in other AVNs. At least it's not spin the bottle, or truth or dare. ;)
 
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Thank you for your feedback on several issues. I want to address these concerns and work together to find a solution we can agree on.

A suggestion - make the prologue 'Chapter 0', then Ep 1 would be Ch.1 and they would align?
Yeah, Dev. Prologues are usually a "0" and not an actual Chapter/Episode. Doesn't make sense the way you've done it. Stick to Episodes then, and don't call anything "Chapters".

So, 9 Episodes in total. If I got it right (Prologue, Episode 9, Epilogue) Which is pretty crazy with how quickly Episode 1 finished and barely much happened.
In-game, it's only mentioned as The Prologue, Episode 1, Episode 2, etc. However, in storefronts and other places, I've tried to package The Prologue and all episodes under a common term, totaling 10 chapters. I agree that The Prologue is typically Chapter 0 if you follow the chapter format, but it might be confusing to say there are 10 chapters if it ends with Chapter 9/Episode 9.

Would it be better to use "10 total parts" instead? Part 1 would be The Prologue, Part 2 would be Episode 1, and so on. My goal is to convey to the audience the number of main updates. However, I can't simply call them "10 updates" because there are many smaller ones as well.

I welcome any suggestions.

I feel you. I felt like it barely started and bam, it ends before it has even begun. I can see it being a good starting point for the next Episode though. It just needs to have enough content to balance things out. Content as in stuff we can do in the Episode before it ends.
Good looking game, but the time between updates is quite the killer. I know good work can't be rushed but where chapter 1 ends on is rather anti-climatic.
I don't expect everyone to read the public announcements on Patreon, Discord, etc., nor the comments where this information was shared. However, I explained a few things on the release day of Episode 1 in those platforms. I'll share the same information now as well:

Hardenville Episode 1 Is Now Available
It's been a long wait for this release. I've redone renders countless times and should have prioritized and been much more efficient.

Episode 1 Changes
The home alone party was originally planned to be in Episode 1, which was going to include some sex scenes. However, Episode 1 is ending after the preparty and right before the main party begins. This is to avoid rushing into scenes too early. Now, we have a calmer approach to Episode 2, which will be very lewd.

Focus of Episode 2
Episode 2 will only focus on the party, which will take place at home in one location. This should make development much faster. The planned release for Episode 2 is Fall 2024.
To expand upon this, the party was originally supposed to start sooner, but I wanted a smooth transition from The Prologue to the party, even if some found it boring. I believe that was the right decision. I realized Episode 2 could be expanded to add more interactivity, allowing players to get to know many more girls at the party. Additionally, I needed more practice to improve the animations for the sex scenes and create more detailed renders.

Personally, as you may have noticed, I prefer detailed scenes. For example, in upcoming sex scenes, I want to show the other person undressing one item of clothing at a time, sometimes leaving some items on. In contrast to many other AVNs where the characters are suddenly completely naked, I prefer to sometimes leave a bra, socks, or a hoodie on during sex scenes. This approach is more realistic and can be more attractive, leaving something to the imagination and gradually revealing details like how their breasts or nipples look later on.

So, Episode 2 will be a big release with a lot of lewd content. Episode 3 will have less lewd content but will focus more on the build-up within the household.

Why the "Never Have I Ever" game though? is that really a mini game? I consider a mini game something akin to QTE = that ball game. Never Have I Ever plays a role, story wise. You get to learn about the girls (you even get an achievement for doing so) yourself (I guess since IDK what the hell the MC has done...)

To me, I don't think this part should be skippable. Also, think how short the Episode would be if you did skip it.
the never have I ever shouldn't be skipped. It's not a qte and it's part of the plot.
I agree, in fact, it should be expanded to include some dialogue between turns, as that would make the game more believable, and is a good opportunity to get to know the characters better. At least that's the purpose these types of games serve in other AVNs. At least it's not spin the bottle, or truth or dare. ;)
"Never Have I Ever" will indeed have more dialogue added, but I believe I will need a few more renders for this. Therefore, it might not be included in the next small update since I'm on "vacation" with only my Mac for coding, and not my main rig with an RTX 4090 for rendering. If you can call working 8 hours a day coding a vacation, haha.

I agree that, theoretically, it shouldn't be skipped, but the way it is presented is kind of a mini-game, as they're also playing a drinking game. For example, if I included important story dialogue within the handball mini-game, should it not be skippable then? This confuses me about what people want and don't want here.

Please share your opinions on this. I remember people complained a lot about not having a skip button for the rock-paper-scissors mini-game, which required at least two clicks to win or lose.

Missing font fonts/BeautyMountainsPS.ttf causing the menu screens to fail
This issue is due to the WT mod not being updated for Episode 1. I'm not the one responsible for creating this mod. The temporary solution is to play without the WT mod, which will prevent any errors.

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To wrap up this long comment, thank you for your feedback. This is the kind of constructive input I want to improve the game and clear up any misunderstandings.
 
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"Never Have I Ever" will indeed have more dialogue added, but I believe I will need a few more renders for this. Therefore, it might not be included in the next small update since I'm on "vacation" with only my Mac for coding, and not my main rig with an RTX 4090 for rendering. If you can call working 8 hours a day coding a vacation, haha.

I agree that, theoretically, it shouldn't be skipped, but the way it is presented is kind of a mini-game, as they're also playing a drinking game. For example, if I included important story dialogue within the handball mini-game, should it not be skippable then? This confuses me about what people want and don't want here.

Please share your opinions on this. I remember people complained a lot about not having a skip button for the rock-paper-scissors mini-game, which required at least two clicks to win or lose.
my 2 cents. I never saw rock paper scissors or have I ever as a minigame tbh. As those have dialogue choices tho I can see the argument for rock paper scissors since you can tie but it goes by so fast hard for me to see it as one. The handball one however I do because there is ui elements and different area's to click to play the minigame.

While I would personally not skip handball or rock paper scissors , it be just a quality of life feature to add a skip for players that really don't want to play it . For rock paper scissors you can easily add a dialogue choice to "give up / surrender" and add some dialogue flair to skipping it. Not sure about handball tho.

I'm glad you are expanding on the Never have I ever game. I don't think that one should be skipped since you are expanding it to include more dialogue. As that could give us the players a chance to learn a bit more about the characters. But currently how it is I can see the argument for skipping it as it plays and goes by to fast (for lack of a better term) almost feels a bit pointless without the expanded dialogue. As currently just feels like a group of friends hanging out and drinking where you could easily achieved that by just showing drinking renders without the game and probably less renders id guess.

But when you get a chance to hear some of these characters stories and learn a bit about them then it becomes a "mini game" worth playing , especially if expanded by adding certain dialogue choices during the game that add Realtionship point or branching that could lead to a lewd scene or something later during the party for example. Adding that bit of dialogue can open some doors in more than one way for a minigame that is there to learn about the characters if you want it to. Now im not saying you should do that but just saying it's one reason I was surprised to see little to no dialogue or choices during the game other than to play the game.

But that is my 2 cents I love the game and really that was the only flaw I see on my end with your game so far and it's only minor nitpick flaw at that for me not even a big deal.
 

Krynh

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if I included important story dialogue within the handball mini-game, should it not be skippable then? This confuses me about what people want and don't want here.
QTEs shouldn't have important dialogue but the never have I ever isn't a reaction event and is a good opportunity to get to know the characters better without feeling forced.
 

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Walkthrough/Ipatch
Game/Developer: Hardenville/ JoyFI Games -
Game Version: 0.1.2
Mod Version: 0.3
Here is my walkthrough/choiceguide mod for Hardenville. This Mod highlights the best choices and offers cheat options. Also added an Ipatch.

Updated to version 0.1.2/ If you played 0.1.0 then you dont have to play this, it just has some Code changes
Added an Ipatch that changes the relations. To make it work !FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW!


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Hi, other people may have asked but when should we expect an update on the mod?
 
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Hi, other people may have asked but when should we expect an update on the mod?
Dude uses the Universal choice descriptor and it's like a mod that shows the variables and points of the choices, I used it if I had to wait for the mod I'll grow old without playing.
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Here is the link to the mod I used https://f95zone.to/threads/universal-choice-descriptor-2024-01-24-zlzk.143528/
 
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I apologize but am I the only one stuck in this situation?
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Any answer doesn't work... and I am repeatedly asked the same question without the possibility of continuing the game.
The first time, you will automatically enter the text messages with Hannah. If you accidentally click outside the phone, it will close. To reopen it, click the black phone icon in the bottom right corner. Return to the text messages with Hannah and finish the conversation. Afterward, press the choice button again.
 
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I mean, I would expect them to behave the exact same way a straight person does in that situation... yea you might find someone attractive but that doesnt mean you just get to go and mess around with them. If the straight girls in the game either only interact with the MC, or anything happens if the player chooses I would expect those same choices to be there for the Bi characters as well. They shouldnt just automatically have a ffm threesome if the expectation is there isnt automatically fmm threesomes.
True. The issue is in some of these games the F is already involved with another F and then the players get pissed for a stupid reason when the FF action stops. That's my point.

As you indicated, if the FF thing is already going on, as alluded to in the post I initially responded to, the player is the odd person out to assume someone in a relationship and having 'relations' with someone else would automatically stop.

In those cases it's the player should understand they will be part of the FF aspect and not split them up as an existing couple, unless the story calls for it. That disconnect is where a lot of the whinge comes from with players who basically just show selfishness and insecurity with that expectation.
 
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