VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.17.2] [Runey]

[jocoyo]

It was my mistake. I admit it. I slept and got high since then, so my memory fogged.

Listen man, it's no big deal. I might've come off as a dick sometimes but in reality I had some time to kill and decided to spend it here of all places. You made a mistake and I decided to keep pestering you about it, that's on me. And now I realize in hindsight it's easy to make that mistake when you spend a while making the meme, and also when you get high and forget about it (which, let's be honest, we've all been there). Wasn't trying to start a classic "internet argument" but that might've been where I ended up.

Also DigDug's right, this thread is for porn not for arguments, so excuse me while I jerk off to pictures of Autumn.

 

[TheDevian]

Listen man, it's no big deal. I might've come off as a dick sometimes but in reality I had some time to kill and decided to spend it here of all places. You made a mistake and I decided to keep pestering you about it, that's on me. And now I realize in hindsight it's easy to make that mistake when you spend a while making the meme, and also when you get high and forget about it (which, let's be honest, we've all been there). Wasn't trying to start a classic "internet argument" but that might've been where I ended up.

Also DigDug's right, this thread is for porn not for arguments, so excuse me while I jerk off to pictures of Autumn.

It's all good, I can admit when I fuck up.
I had the clearest memory of using that image, and the thumb for it was big and bold, while I had little to no memory of changing it (thought my deliberation was before I started working on that part), and it did not help that I deviated from my normal routine on that one, skipping steps because I was trying to get it done as quickly as possible (I am always working, after all).

And you are correct again, it is always the right season for Autumn.

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[aidenboy]

The amount of characters that bad mouth the mc is pretty annoying despite the mc not deserving it. Should be able to kick people out if they're shitty.

 

[ChildofIshtar]

The amount of characters that bad mouth the mc is pretty annoying despite the mc not deserving it. Should be able to kick people out if they're shitty.

Aww, does it hurt your ego when someone correctly identifies MC as a slaver, and a landlord, and a colonizer?

He is all those things you know? He should be reminded of it. He should be held to a higher standard.

 

[Segnbora]

You know, this game is a story. in stories, people change. Change is the story. It's always been the story.

 

[aidenboy]

Aww, does it hurt your ego when someone correctly identifies MC as a slaver, and a landlord, and a colonizer?

He is all those things you know? He should be reminded of it. He should be held to a higher standard.

Yeah you're right. Sure is a shame how much he beats and abuses all the elves in his care. Oh wait he doesnt do that. Huh. He owns them because if he didn't they would be under someone elses enslavement. What a braindead response.

 

[aidenboy]

You know, this game is a story. in stories, people change. Change is the story. It's always been the story.

Yeah, but the issue here is that the Mc isn't a slaver. It isn't about him changing because he didn't agree with it in the first place. He's actively aiding Lin in ending slavery and even put himself in danger to do so. He owns the elves as "slaves" purely so they don't end up with some slaver who is going to actually treat them as slaves. That response to my comment was so fucking stupid. Literally just a post of buzwords from someone who either isn't actually paying attention to the story or just trying to pick a fight.

 

[DigDug69]

Yeah you're right. Sure is a shame how much he beats and abuses all the elves in his care. Oh wait he doesnt do that. Huh. He owns them because if he didn't they would be under someone elses enslavement. What a braindead response.

Not really that braindead.
The outside world sees him as a slaver, but he is not, and he can't very well correct people about it, or the wrong people might take notice and look harder at what he is doing.

Since he cannot correct people who call him bad names, then he has to just grin and bear it.
It's just the dev being creative, realistically.
If everyone agreed with what he is really doing if he corrected them, he could lose it all and possibly any chance of freeing the slaves, because he could set off alarms with the government who would start watching them.
If no one said anything bad about the MC, it would show that their plans to free the slaves would likely fail, because there would be little support from the humans.

 

[aidenboy]

Not really that braindead.
The outside world sees him as a slaver, but he is not, and he can't very well correct people about it, or the wrong people might take notice and look harder at what he is doing.

Since he cannot correct people who call him bad names, then he has to just grin and bear it.
It's just the dev being creative, realistically.
If everyone agreed with what he is really doing if he corrected them, he could lose it all and possibly any chance of freeing the slaves.
If no one said anything bad about the MC, it would show that their plans to free the slaves would likely fail, because there would be little support from the humans.

It is braindead. The comment says they are correctly calling him these things and they are not. You even say he isn't a slaver. You are right from a world building position that him correcting them would be unwise, but he isn't correcting people who are for slavery. He would be correcting people who are giving him shit for being one. I don't think this would create issues for him to correct those people because what are they going to do? Actively stop what he is trying to do when their anger is motivated from him being a slaver in their eyes? This would make no sense for their character then. Why would Nia being shitty towards the mc make sense when he is actively trying to help them? Hey I know you're a good guy who is trying to help us but fuck you you're a slaver makes no sense. Otherwise they wouldn't have kidnapped him and asked for him to "adopt" them.

 

[DigDug69]

It is braindead. The comment says they are correctly calling him these things and they are not. You even say he isn't a slaver. You are right from a world building position that him correcting them would be unwise, but he isn't correcting people who are for slavery. He would be correcting people who are giving him shit for being one. I don't think this would create issues for him to correct those people because what are they going to do? Actively stop what he is trying to do when their anger is motivated from him being a slaver in their eyes? This would make no sense for their character then. Why would Nia being shitty towards the mc make sense when he is actively trying to help them? Hey I know you're a good guy who is trying to help us but fuck you you're a slaver makes no sense. Otherwise they wouldn't have kidnapped him and asked for him to "adopt" them.

Ever heard the phrase: Loose lips sink ships.
Meaning that if he corrected them, and even one of those people mentioned it to someone that they thought that they could trust.
And that person reported it, or someone that they told about it did.
Which is why correcting them, until you are sure that you can trust them, is a very bad idea.

 

[molitar]

OK let's put this damn slaver conversation into context.

1. So your known as a slaver because you have slaves
2. You don't treat them like slaves but you have to keep up the persona of one. If you do not than the others will know your no threat and will either kill your or steal your slaves! Other slavers.. slavers don't fuck with each other as they know they will protect there property! So take that belief away and your either you will have them stolen or worst they may just kill you so you can't lay any claim.
3. So your only option is to let them believe your a slaver.

This is from a perspective of a world where there is slavery. So the only WISE decision is to let them believe as you don't want the wrong people not to believe. If they knew you treated them as free than they KNOW you are weak and you and them will be victims!

Seriously put yourself into the MC shoes and the world he lives in.

 

[TheDevian]

Exactly, in order to operate under the radar, we have to play the part publicly.
The more illegal shit we do, the more we have to pretend to support the system.
It's not like the old days, when the worst thing they could do was fine us because we refuse to collar our elves. We are actively working on overthrowing the system, we are harboring fugitives, we have stolen from the government, and we very well might start a full on war.

One bad mistake, and at best, we all go to jail.

 

[c3p0]

Yep, end bonking day and start boinking day.

 

[Strike-10]

And you are correct again, it is always the right season for Autumn.
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is this an almost completely “devian” created scene? (Top image)
or is it part of something that will be out in the update?
Ofc the meme is your creation

 

[TheDevian]

is this an almost completely “devian” created scene? (Top image)
or is it part of something that will be out in the update?
Ofc the meme is your creation

Pretty sure that was some fan art or something (probably Mei). All I did was add text.
I can't really use NEO that well, never did figure it out. lol

*Mei is the one who does most of the fan requests on Discord.

 

[ChildofIshtar]

Literally just a post of buzwords from someone who either isn't actually paying attention to the story or just trying to pick a fight.

I will admit that I was antagonistic. Looking to pick a fight? No... but definitely hoping to make you challenge your worldview.

If you're interested in actually understanding how, within the text of the game, the issue of MC's status as a slaver, in particular, should constantly be criticized, both by players, and by characters like Nia and Vanessa, feel free to join us on discord. The Lore and Spoilers section has a nice little thread about it.

Nothing about MC helping Lin, Nia, and Maria in their abolitionist goals absolves him of his status as a landlord, colonizer, or slaver. And particularly his status as a slaver, is something that I would hope people would have more problem with thatn they do, if they were "actually paying attention to the story." Because Runey isn't being subtle.

 

[Perniciousducks]

It's true, the number of new to Harem Hotel people who think they know every god damn thing about it and invade and colonize every channel and suggestion post to completely misunderstand both the suggestion and the game with 100% certainty is at an all time high on the Discord. They are a plague and a menace, and it's sad to see it here too.

 

[ChildofIshtar]

Oh come now ducks, you've been here since 2018. You know what f95 is like. The HH discord has always been way safer in terms of discussion of the game beyond "why I not fuck all girls all time?" level.

 

[Perniciousducks]

You’re complete lack of reading comprehension on what I just said should call in to question your ability to understand what is actually happening in the game and not just the various topics you want to stump for.

 

[ChildofIshtar]

You’re complete lack of reading comprehension on what I just said should call in to question your ability to understand what is actually happening in the game and not just the various topics you want to stump for.

Oh... in that case, you don't know who you're talking to. It's fair... this isn't my original account because post transition I didn't wanna be associated with the old on, but that one was started in 2017, and I've been in the discord since 2018. So I'm literally not the "new to harem hotel people". If you'd like to discuss what I mean though, feel free to hit me up there... way too involved a discussion for the forums.