- Aug 12, 2017
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It seemed like we can only have one track playing at a time, so it didn't seem to me like having other tracks that weren't being played would effect income. Perhaps that was a hasty conclusion.
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Yeah, just buying them increases the money. Each song increases money, among with (almost?) everything else.
- Nov 15, 2018
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sorry just wandering can you tell me the date the complete 0.6 version will be available on here as i got confused earlier as in my mind i had read on op we was on ver 0.6 and then i got to end of one of the girls current story and got the message this is not the end more will be released in 0.6 so i looked again and noticed op link is beta at moment and not yet complete wich is fine my mistake lol but do we have date for complete ver upload?
The 19th is all goes well, but with this whole Patreon thing, it may be delayed. The current public release is v0.5.3, which I have taken down until I know for sure what I need to do.
Patreon may get back to me on the 19th, and if all goes well, they'll tell me everything is fine. But that's unlikely seeing at it usually takes up to two weeks for them to respond (5 days in my last case).
However, if they continue to talk to me before it gets resolved, the release may be postponed 2 weeks...
However again, if they tell me all sexual content with Ashley needs to be removed, that may take me up to a week added to whenever they tell me whatever their final verdict is.
Whatever happens on the 19th, be it release or delay, I'll be posting that on Patreon.
This whole situation sucks, I'm constantly stressed, I'm on my break period between updates, but so far it's just felt like more work due to Giochi telling lies to Patreon in hopes they can get the game they stole from me shut down.
- Nov 15, 2018
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why would all sexual stuff with Ashley need to be removed she is same age as maria and the twins and if i read right makes all of them 18 or older but i understand you with frustration of date not being in your hands and having wait. thanks for very honest and prompt reply
That is a very good question. Patreon seems to think that being short with small boobs means you aren't allowed to be sexualised.
Ashley, Felicity, and Emma are all the same ages roughly (19), maria is around 21 - 22 and has finished college.
Giochi most likely told Patreon something like this "Runey has an underaged girl named Ashley in his game, look at his patreon page, she's in a school room". Patreon did see this on my page (now removed in hopes of showing them I'm willing to do whatever I can to keep my page up) and got into contact with me. They told me "The fact that she is often depicted in school clothes, and the fact that she looked underdeveloped makes this character not fit for adult content". Now, if they believe the same breast size as the average Asian woman has is "under developed", then they might as well ban all Asian women from Patreon all together.
Patreon doesn't play any games, and I don't blame them. Actually, the customer support team isn't even Patreon, it's Zendesk, a customer support company for hire.
I don't entirely blame them. Loli content is abundant, and they don't want loli content on their website. That's why they reached out to me instead of banning my page, to talk it out. Ashley isn't under aged at all, she's just petite. Hell, Kali's breasts are considered above average on real life terms. Emma and Ellen's breasts are bloody massive for humans.
- Nov 15, 2018
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if this is only reason then rather than removing all sexual content as that would kill the character and how can she want be your wife with no fun but make very small changes to her appearance (not her facial features) just make her very marginally bigger and increase breast size so between small and medium so still less than others but big enough patreon cant complain
Well, there's a massive problem with that. Firstly, it would be so much work to redo her, v0.7 would be the "Remastered Ashley" update. Secondly, any changes to her would ruin her character for me and result in me being unmotived to make content for Ashley.
- Nov 15, 2018
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i understand that ashley also possibly my favourite in game too well close between ashley and lin but the changes i meant were very fine tweaking so you would hardly notice difference. she basically still look almost same only very marginally increase boob size just to get patreon off you back. only other option is to do as some other games have done and leave patreon but then that brings you other financing problems i believe
OR AN IDEA see what you think. remove ashley content from main game and advertise that on patreon BUT keep ashley content were you download an additional patch thats not on patreon and can be downloaded and put in game.
or similar to idea above make ashley content only available when you put in code truegame like is for twins. that way we keep ashley just the way she is but off patreon radar.
- Oct 5, 2017
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In that post I was just pointing out that if you think you're getting $100 per day from the pinups, you've likely forgotten about the rent. The full projection does include the $57 from the bar too, but that still only brings it down to 77 days, and that's 77 days counting from after you've bought all the upgrades (which you will obviously have to save up for on less than $157 per diem). I don't know what kind of timeframe you have in mind for all these things, but 77 days of doing nothing but pinups sounds kind of boring to me - for an example of non-grindy money growth, I'm at over 200 days and only have a bit over $3,500. (Enough for Dusk and Midnight but nowhere near enough for Dawn; I imagine telling her I'm sorry, but while I can afford to buy her friends I can't afford her - it's very sad)
P.S., I quote the rent as being $30, but with seven rooms occupied it should be $35 - or $25 if Lin and Android don't pay rent (which makes more sense, really). What exactly is the reason for that? I know several girls have spoken about needing to stay for free, but you've said that none of them actually are.
You can always do what I did when I was told to remake stuff without giving me specifics. Leave it alone for a week, then come back to the customer and tell them you "reworked it, the changes are subtle, but come together to make a huge difference, dontcha think?" Its all in the delivery, you need to sound pleased and confident with the results. Since they don't want to look dumb admitting they can't figure out what you did, and people generally don't like being the odd one out and sounding negative when the other person is sounding positive, and they don't want to sound ungrateful after you tell them all the work you did, they usually agree.
- Dec 2, 2018
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I was about to suggest this too. This is probably the best way to avoid any problem with patreon and the easyest to implement regarding game code (correct me if i'm wrong, i don't know much about coding)
- Oct 31, 2018
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Reworking Ashley content in any way is impractical. First, remaking her body would entail that every render where she appears needs to be remade with the new body. Second, locking Ashley behind a code would need an explicit notice to enter said code. A lot of events include Ashley, like story events from other characters. They would become inaccessible without the code, which might even destroy storylines of other girls.
My hope is that patreon is okay with what Runey did thus far and leaves him in peace. Everything else is just... annoying. And it would delay real content
My hope is that patreon is okay with what Runey did thus far and leaves him in peace. Everything else is just... annoying. And it would delay real content
- Mar 20, 2018
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This one has been suggested before (by Runey, actually) but Ashley is involved in other plot lines so hiding her behind truestory would involve reworking those plots by writing scene variants and re-rendering some sizable scenes to exclude her. It's doable, but it's a lot of work.
- Nov 28, 2017
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I know it's a pain to keep discussing as I'm sure you'd rather just get on with dealing with the possible outcome of what Patreon has to say more than anything else, but in all honesty I've been browsing this place and 4Chan for a very long time and I've seen many Patreons get suspended and reopened. Most of them were due to much more severe cases than yours and Patreon has given them the go ahead regardless of the content being created. There are actual games out there on Patreon that are making them money that infringe on their policies, who've been called out and slight changes have been made that allows them to keep everything the same.
Of course I'm talking about incest content and the dreaded "land lady" uprising that's going on in the western porn game world lately, but there are quite a few popular games that Patreon allows to keep running that have a main focus of shota, which is illegal by their policies, and quite a few games they've let reopen that contain bestiality. As much as I understand how worried you are and how much of a pain in the arse it is to work around this in case the bad does happen, I'd try to keep in mind all the other games out there that looked like they were going to get shut down or have content removed but managed to stay afloat. Patreon, at the very least, seems reasonable on that because if they know that porn sells and if they keep removing the games people are throwing money at constantly then they're losing income so they seem to be quite lenient than most.
Apologies for bringing up another game but consider SummerTime Saga and the whole issue with incest and under aged characters in their game. All they did was made the main character a "tenant" and changed the school to a "college" and Patreon gave them a thumbs up. You're a good dude Runey, you're one of the most active developers and you constantly monitor a thread dedicated to having free access to a game that you make money from. You've got some real levels of patience sticking around here as often as you do and for that I thank you, I'm usually more into the 2D side of the porn world and this is the first "western" 3D game I've played and quickly fell in love with. Let's hope Patreon has some sense this time around for you too.
- May 20, 2018
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@Runey I wanted to ask you if you are studiying the idea of making a kind of "Honey Select Developers Club" whith some well-kown devs like Jikei and maybe uprising devs like F.Lord. Or maybe you think tan the adult game market It's too close and competition It's not good for this market.
PD: Splt out the release for god sake!
PD: Splt out the release for god sake!
Haha, yep. I've already made one. It's called 'Illusion Game Dev', and all developers and team members using Illusion's game are welcomed there. Most of devs are there.@Runey I wanted to ask you if you are studiying the idea of making a kind of "Honey Select Developers Club" whith some well-kown devs like Jikei and maybe uprising devs like F.Lord. Or maybe you think tan the adult game market It's too close and competition It's not good for this market.
PD: Splt out the release for god sake!