Ren'Py Abandoned Harem Village [v0.01b] [Kinky Juice]

[RogueKnightUK]

You guys sure like to talk trash but don't mind read anything!
I mention more than 5 times that patreon page no longer exists and I will continue to develop it, but keep it to myself. Maybe later when I create my own art and I will publish it again.

It is you that doesn't seem to understand. You did something wrong, and when that was pointed out to you, all you did was attempt to justify and excuse it. Even now, at not one point have you actually shown any regret or remorse over your action.

A forum like this is a community, where both players and developers come together. Devs are a part of this community. Devs like the people who's work you were stealing and using without even the courtesy to give them any credit, to link to their pages where people could support them. It isn't about the money, it's about courtesy and respect. You shit on other devs, then somehow expect to have respect as one yourself. To some, that makes you quite a cock.

Without regret or remorse expressed, you are like a rapist saying "What? Stop nagging, I took my cock out of her already", truly too dumb to realize that isn't the point. After already having used the excuse "But I couldn't get a girlfriend of my own" (can't draw or work software) and "Other people do it" (Other people also get caught for it, genius).

If I stole some of your property, does it make it less stolen if I don't sell it and only keep it to myself?

Issues around intellectual property, especially around what does and does not constitute, fair use, or parody, etc are very, very complex. Meanwhile, you can't work out the difference between reparation and merely stopping, so trying to explain anything you wouldn't expect a small child to have understood becomes rather moot.

 

[Spacedestructor]

i will set this game on my ignore list, i just hate games where the developer takes art from other people to make money with there work. from what i can read did he not even bother to ask for permission to use the characters. I can understand if you are not good with doing art your self that you use art from someone else but either ask someone to draw the characters for you or at least ask the artists for permission to use there art if you want to use specific that art.

 

[R4V3N]

It is you that doesn't seem to understand. You did something wrong, and when that was pointed out to you, all you did was attempt to justify and excuse it. Even now, at not one point have you actually shown any regret or remorse over your action.

A forum like this is a community, where both players and developers come together. Devs are a part of this community. Devs like the people who's work you were stealing and using without even the courtesy to give them any credit, to link to their pages where people could support them. It isn't about the money, it's about courtesy and respect. You shit on other devs, then somehow expect to have respect as one yourself. To some, that makes you quite a cock.

Without regret or remorse expressed, you are like a rapist saying "What? Stop nagging, I took my cock out of her already", truly too dumb to realize that isn't the point. After already having used the excuse "But I couldn't get a girlfriend of my own" (can't draw or work software) and "Other people do it" (Other people also get caught for it, genius).

If I stole some of your property, does it make it less stolen if I don't sell it and only keep it to myself?

Issues around intellectual property, especially around what does and does not constitute, fair use, or parody, etc are very, very complex. Meanwhile, you can't work out the difference between reparation and merely stopping, so trying to explain anything you wouldn't expect a small child to have understood becomes rather moot.

I acknowledge what I did wrong, and I will change what many are claiming I did wrong. I think that is an evidence of regret/remorse. But I don't have to take trash talk from hypocrites.

So for you it's ok to violate/steal others people/companies intellectual property as long as they aren't people close to you/community. Ok...
And you are saying that I can't create whatever I want and keep it to myself!? That's new!!
And claiming that I "stole" property on a pirate forum is just hypocrisy! You never download/stole any software/music/films/games... Yeah... Right!!
And comparing this to rape takes your comment to new heights of ignorance.
Your comment really defines the type of person that you are.

 

[ThunderRob]

i dont care if you use other peoples work..alot of games do..many making big bucks on patreon..my complaint was ya chose ugly AF stuff and should have borrowed good looking stuff

 

[R4V3N]

To be honest, I'd request a moderator delete this post for you. It's a serious legal issue that could land you in a LOT of trouble.

You have to understand: You posted this in a community that has rubbed elbows with many content creators. While the copyright holders to the characters have no claims over parody, yours isn't a parody of the original art you used. Therefore, it's unlicensed use to gain monetary profit of another person's intellectual property. That's grounds for a lawsuit, especially from a larger group such as Milftoon.

Believe it or not, their comments are trying to help you. If you want to see real "venom" and "trash talking", post this game on 4chan lol. I've never met a nicer crowd in a forum setting than the folks on f95.

And just a tip for the art: I'd rather see crudely-drawn characters with a great story than lifeless characters that make me want to go find the source material. You'll probably see actual patreon profits using that method, and that may help you take some drawing courses to improve your art for future projects.

Lastly, when meeting criticism, don't be so thin-skinned. Yes, you screwed up. Badly. And yes, you're going to see the same feedback from multiple people. That's what happens when you screw up in a public space. Take it on the chin, promise to do better, and then ask the thread to be removed or locked. You know where you went wrong here, so repost when steps are taken to amend the complications.

I wish you the best of luck on future projects.

Once again, I acknowledged what I did wrong, and patreon no longer exists, and I already talked to a mod to remove the game from here. I will continue to develop the game and keep it to myself until I can create my own artwork.
What triggers me, and as it seems it triggers others users here too, is the hypocrisy of most of them... Specially in this type of forums. But that's how they are, and I'm not here to change them.

Thanks for the support.

 

[R4V3N]

i dont care if you use other peoples work..alot of games do..many making big bucks on patreon..my complaint was ya chose ugly AF stuff and should have borrowed good looking stuff

I will continue to develop the game, and I will publish it again when I have my own artwork.

 

[✝Fenrir✝]

"Harem Village" but I don't see harem in the tag's

 

[lostraven]

I will continue to develop the game, and I will publish it again when I have my own artwork.

While I'm sure this major slap on the wrist has been a huge wakeup call for you, try not to be too disheartened, you're a new dev, and at some point or another a dev happens to land himself in hot water for one thing or another. (usually deadlines), when you return with your own artwork, you'll find a much more welcome audience. Just treat this as a strong lesson on the road to success hopefully and you'll be fine.

 

[Deleted member 81848]

Parody
A parody is a work that ridicules another, usually well-known work, by imitating it in a comic way. Judges understand that, by its nature, parody demands some taking from the original work being parodied. Unlike other forms of fair use, a fairly extensive use of the original work is permitted in a parody in order to “conjure up” the original.

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Yeah most of the games on this site don't fall under parody law so not sure why people keep bringing this up to defend stealing characters from companies. The games aren't parody they are porn games but they aren't like the comics in news papers that you see mocking politicians. They take themselves seriously. For it to be parody it would need to be more than just one scene that was comedic/mocking/ect to the character, it would have to be the whole game. You think you can make 10 seconds of a 3 min song parody and the rest original. Then have it fall under fair use parody law? No. Yet we try to use parody law to justify stealing other companies intellectual property because people have to trick themselves into thinking they are the good guys. So they can put themselves in a position to judge others and say oh yeah I steal characters but it falls under parody law but oh no no no don't use my art without my permission!

 

[loikl]

This looks a little similar to the simpsons game that is also posted here, in which they only reused the art already created by another author... and not very well.

 

[lostraven]

Parody
A parody is a work that ridicules another, usually well-known work, by imitating it in a comic way. Judges understand that, by its nature, parody demands some taking from the original work being parodied. Unlike other forms of fair use, a fairly extensive use of the original work is permitted in a parody in order to “conjure up” the original.

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Yeah most of the games on this site don't fall under parody law so not sure why people keep bringing this up to defend stealing characters from companies. The games aren't parody they are porn games but they aren't like the comics in news papers that you see mocking politicians. They take themselves seriously. For it to be parody it would need to be more than just one scene that was comedic/mocking/ect to the character, it would have to be the whole game. You think you can make 10 seconds of a 3 min song parody and the rest original. Then have it fall under fair use parody law? No. Yet we try to use parody law to justify stealing other companies intellectual property because people have to trick themselves into thinking they are the good guys. So they can put themselves in a position to judge others and say oh yeah I steal characters but it falls under parody law but oh no no no don't use my art without my permission!

It doesn't need to be a parody to fall under fair use, it just needs to be transformative. A parody is just one example of how it can be transformative.

 

[Deleted member 81848]

It doesn't need to be a parody to fall under fair use, it just needs to be transformative. A parody is just one example of how it can be transformative.

Being transformative is like making a youtube video of a game, another video, ect and commenting on it the whole time. Being transformative is taking a song taking out all the original lyrics and making a parody of the song. Being transformative is not taking a character from a game/movie and using it in your own fan made game. That is clearly just stealing the character but we want to make it seem like fair use because both us and devs want to see our favorite characters in a porn game. There is a clear difference between fanart and a whole game and even bigger difference between a porn game with copyrighted characters making money and one that isn't making money in any way. Obviously the one not making money in any way would be fine.

So what is a “transformative” use? If this definition seems ambiguous or vague, be aware that millions of dollars in legal fees have been spent attempting to define what qualifies as a fair use. There are no hard-and-fast rules, only general guidelines and varied court decisions, because the judges and lawmakers who created the fair use exception did not want to limit its definition. Like free speech, they wanted it to have an expansive meaning that could be open to interpretation.

Most fair use analysis falls into two categories: (1) commentary and criticism, or (2) parody.

Commentary and Criticism
If you are commenting upon or critiquing a copyrighted work—for instance, writing a book review—fair use principles allow you to reproduce some of the work to achieve your purposes. Some examples of commentary and criticism include:

• quoting a few lines from a Bob Dylan song in a music review
• summarizing and quoting from a medical article on prostate cancer in a news report
• copying a few paragraphs from a news article for use by a teacher or student in a lesson, or
• copying a portion of a Sports Illustrated magazine article for use in a related court case.

The underlying rationale of this rule is that the public reaps benefits from your review, which is enhanced by including some of the copyrighted material. Additional examples of commentary or criticism are provided in the examples of fair use cases.

 

[Paitryn]

I'm not that good at drawing. But I'm training with some tools. Maybe later I will do some original work.

If your gonna use other peoples talent and not pay them, take down your patreon. Otherwise Try honey select at least you would be making your own pictures and content.

 

[Deleted member 81848]

Guess we should tell all these movie companies that they can use batman superman any trademark character they want. They don't need to buy the rights anymore as long as their movie is transformative.

 

[stal1234]

so a bug

 

[R4V3N]

If your gonna use other peoples talent and not pay them, take down your patreon. Otherwise Try honey select at least you would be making your own pictures and content.

I already unpublished patreon, and said that I will continue the gamer for myself, for now. Later when I have my own art, I will publish it again.

 

[lostraven]

Being transformative is like making a youtube video of a game, another video, ect and commenting on it the whole time. Being transformative is taking a song taking out all the original lyrics and making a parody of the song. Being transformative is not taking a character from a game/movie and using it in your own fan made game. That is clearly just stealing the character but we want to make it seem like fair use because both us and devs want to see our favorite characters in a porn game. There is a clear difference between fanart and a whole game and even bigger difference between a porn game with copyrighted characters making money and one that isn't making money in any way. Obviously the one not making money in any way would be fine.

This is simply inaccurate, porn has long been classed through the lens of 'parody' anyway whether you disagree with it or not. But just because you've decided on what's 'transformative' and isn't, doesn't really matter does it? In the legal sense, it is extremely broad as to what actually qualifies, and this is little more than your opinion on what 'transformative' should be, and that probably wouldn't hold up in a court of law.

Tell me, are you going to contact DC to file a takedown for this? I'm fairly sure Pornhub profits from these vids after all.

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No, you won't, because even though those characters have been directly 'ripped' you understand the scenario and how absurd it is, that's the 'parody', the scenario the characters have been thrust into, not the characters themselves.
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[R4V3N]

Guess we should tell all these movie companies that they can use batman superman any trademark character they want. They don't need to buy the rights anymore as long as their movie is transformative.

Thanks for all your support and help. Don't mind them anymore. I will try create my own art and later publish it again.
Once again, thanks for all!

 

[tramtoriana54]

maybe someone knows games with dbz chi chi in it?

 

[hohmyfuckingahdbruh]

shamelessly stolen art