There isn't any mug in this release. If I'm not wrong in the achievement section there is a hint about what you have to find and were.
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Plus the choice is clearly for a self defense weapon. Even fully qualified as sniper, I wouldn't mention a sniper rifle and goes for my second best known weapon.
Then a sniper rifle shouldn't have been an option.
Actually all that dialogue isn't very well written, because an armed force doesn't work in that way. It is the force in which a soldier is enlisted that decides his equipment (so also his weapons) and when it does that, it assign a specific weapon: a specific rifle, a specific helmet, a specific radio (if he is a radio operator) and so on; of course this rule isn't applied to the disposable equipment, like the ammo. Consequently when a soldier goes to the armoury to pick up his weapons (or in the warehouse for the rest of the equipment), the staff will not give him a rifle, a knife, a radio… The staff will give him his own rifle, his own knife, his own radio… So I think the right way to write that dialogue should have been this, the MC goes to the armoury, identifies himself and asks for his weapons. Then the staff gives a pistol to him, he asks why a pistol instead of his assault rifle and the staff answer "It is an order of the command."; which is a power that the command actually has.
Of course I understand if none of you will see any problem in how Notty has handled the thing, but for me it is very hard to suspend my disbelief due to my (very brief) past in the army and due to the illogicality to show four weapons to the MC, let him chose what weapon want and then says "No, you can't chose, because the command has already decided what weapon you can have."
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Neither the sniper rifle, nor the assault rifle are an option. They are presented to the player, because they'll be available later in the game. And they are presented now because Yvonne words are not here just to add in the words count.
While Jane present them in a theoretical context, Yvonne present them in a practical context. This will help the player when the time will come.
In other words, "congratulation, achievement granted: Passed the weapon tutorial".
Don't hesitate to contact Notty. I'm 100% sure that your knowledge regarding the regulations on board of Earth's military deep space vessels, will interest her.
So, exactly what happened, minus the tutorial part...
It's not that I don't see a problem, it's that I don't forget that it's a fictional story, that is presented as a game, that take place in a distant future, and where the MC is an engineer officer, not a regular trooper. Anyway, the last point make it unlikely for him to be granted more than a hand gun. This despite his past in the infantry ; past that is mostly here to justify the strategical and ground fighting knowledge he'll present later in the story.
If Notty, who've been commissioned officer serving Her Majesty for more than a very brief time, have been able to deal with this, I'm sure that you can too...
Mmm…
I would object that if the purpose of this tutorial was the one you have explained, it could have been done better since Notty could have shown the various weapons when they will be actually usable, since Notty could give those informations when they will be really useful using some dialogue among MC and other characters in Ophion (or the MC thoughts), since a tutorial in which you have to understand that the rapid fire icon and the aimed fire icon have the purpose to perform a rapid or an aimed fire isn't really necessary.
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Actually not and the entire armory scene seems to be part of the tutorial, because for some reason if you decide to skip the tutorial, you skip also the entire armory scene.
I am perfectly aware of that.
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Did she has? Well if she had, this doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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If you are perfectly aware that it's a fiction taking place in a distant future, an presenting a space force that don't exist, why are you saying that there's a problem "in how Notty has handled the thing" ?
As far as one can envision this future, place is limited in such space vessels, and priority have to go to the kitchen, not to the armory. If you're short on weapons, you still can flew away. But if you're short on food, everyone is doomed.
Therefore, that only the fighting units, and the shuttle crew since they are often out of the ship, have their own weapons is perfectly rational. The others dip into the armory stock when they have to go on mission. With this, you can reasonably divide by at least five the number of weapons on board, while still having every needs covered. And the space gained that way can stock food for few more days.
I didn't said that you are wrong, but that you are, hmm, out of scope.
If it was a game taking place nowadays, it would be an issue, still just a relative one. But here it take place a a context we know nothing about, therefore judging regarding the current regulation is meaningless.
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Hi there,
Assuming you're trying to follow Annie's path in the Walkthrough from the FP and according to your first question about where to find Annie's mug:
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I clicked on every possible place I could in Defence but still can't find the mug there.
Because there is a problem and there is a huge difference between the suspension of disbelief (indispensable prerequisite to enjoy a fictional story) and the suspension of critical sensibility.
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On the left edge of the screen, about half way up between the bottom and the wall
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Ah! So can you achieve the "collector achievement" in (at least) two different ways? I have done that finding out another object in another place (a dice in a locker); good to know. I suppose every object you can collect is somehow related to a certain path and I wonder if there are other objects to find.
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I'm also out of the loop clearly, I've previously downloaded CH3 R (but never tried it as I played the original), but the recently released CH1 R is a re-remaster/rework?
Perhaps the changelog on the first page could be updated to clarify this?
Yes, it is a Ch.1 re-remastered (or a Ch.1-RR if you prefer) and the new intro is the only actual new content.
Anyway the differences with the previous releases are:
Anyway the differences with the previous releases are:
- the interface is totally new (and better); this is the major change.
- there is a totally new introductory scene (which I like very much), but to see all this new intro, you have to play also the tutorial, because if you skip it, you skip also all the armory scene; I don't know why.
- now Becca is a character in the game, but I don't know if she will appear in this new intro or if she will have other scenes later.
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Wow, you noticed only that.. It's very limiting, as if you were lying by omission to deny other hard work from the Dev.
The name is Chapter One v.1RS, not RR.
And what about:
. Menu and loading
. One time screen warning
. New theme music
. Animated opening screen
. Revised two stage animated menu
. Revised and extended opening chapter animation
. Sound and music updated throughout the chapter
. The revised/extended launch animations
. The revised/extended "crisis" sequence
. The revised/extended landing sequence
. "Bored Pilot" refreshed and extended in content
...
I think your knowledge with the evolution of this game is poor or even biased.
So, don't make that kind of statement without any caution from your part:
It may have been confusing and misleading for some readers of this thread...
And finding Annie's mug is not an achievement, period!
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Well, it would be a major disrupt in the old saves, no?
So I'm rather confident that it would stay that way for now with the RS versions up to Chapter Four.. But nothing too spoilery from Chapter Five has transpired, stay tuned!
That is what I have meant when I have written new interface, since I don't think ajdop wanted a very detailed description of every single change made in this new release. In fact he hasn't even played the Chapter3-R, because there weren't great changes in the story.
Can I suggest to you to do not make any kind of statement about the others? You could be the one with poor or even biased knowledge about them. In fact I wasn't mislead by my lack of knowledge, but by the new achievement menu and by the fact there isn't no way to spot the mug in this new release: in the past release you could catch a glimpse of it in the dark, in this new one no.I think your knowledge with the evolution of this game is poor or even biased.
So, don't make that kind of statement without any caution from your part:
It may have been confusing and misleading for some readers of this thread...
And finding Annie's mug is not an achievement, period!
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