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As an aside, there are those of us who aren't concerned about file size in the least. I get what you're trying to do, but is it worth it?
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I simply have to crack either seperate chapter downloads or image size or else the project will fail.
One set of sex scenes with one character has added 400mb in Chapter Three. Imagine the size by Chapter Six when I have different scenes for different routes with different characters.
And although some people are fine with large sizes even they might blanche at, say, an 8gb download at the halfway mark.
Ultimately if, by size, I make this game inaccessible to people they won't play it sadly.
A lot of people on this here board often offer unofficial compressed versions and I almost never see any difference with the uncompressed one (ok, I don't have a huge screen either). And they usually do it very fast. Maybe it would be a good idea to ask them if they haven't got some kind of regex or something to do it so fast? Also, I'm thinking about Belle, the Long Live the Princess' dev, who offer directly the compressed version of the VN.
I guess you thought about this already, but if it helps.
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I will typically download the compressed version on most games that are over 2GB in size. I download the game via MEGA (i assume most others here do too) , which has a cap (i think its 5GB in a day?) if you dont have an account so you would need to take that into consideration.
Can probably do what other devs do, like Blucat with Ecchi Sensei who releases the game in separate chapters (all 3 chapters so far are around a combined 10 GB, not including specials).
Can probably do what other devs do, like Blucat with Ecchi Sensei who releases the game in separate chapters (all 3 chapters so far are around a combined 10 GB, not including specials).
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Notty, this is not an immediate issue.
At this point for this particular part of the game the size is acceptable. It's what, something over 2 GB without compressing the animations? Yes, it's not sustainable in the long run, but that can be worked out along the way.
You can always post new links for Chapter Three once the size issue is sorted out. I mean you did that for Chapter One, why would that be different now?
There is no valid reason not to release Chapter Three if everything is working except bringing the size down. Especially after all the hard work you put into this. You deserve to see the fruits of all that. I don't think you would find a single patron that given choice would opt not to get a working Chapter Three just because it's a bit bigger than what would be ideal.
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I would opt to get a version the creator is happy with.
It is ready when it is ready and it takes as long as it takes.
It is ready when it is ready and it takes as long as it takes.
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Don't get me wrong, I always told Notty exactly that. To take as much time as needed for her to be happy with it.
But this is different. It's not something in the game itself. It's not a set that takes too long to render or a wrong lip gloss. Whether the size is 1 GB or 3 GB it plays exactly the same.
It's not about me. I don't mind, if I don't get the update this month. I won't ask for a refund. I worry that this will be a setback for her. One that is absolutely not necessary and easily avoidable.
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Yeah I get it. But I would argue that functioning and ready aren't necessarily mutually inclusive states. If size is an issue, it will have to be addressed at some point. Might as well iron the kinks out early. Especially if one of the remaining options is compressing all the images in the game, like she said.Don't get me wrong, I always told Notty exactly that. To take as much time as needed for her to be happy with it.
But this is different. It's not something in the game itself. It's not a set that takes too long to render or a wrong lip gloss. Whether the size is 1 GB or 3 GB it plays exactly the same.
It's not about me. I don't mind, if I don't get the update this month. I won't ask for a refund. I worry that this will be a setback for her. One that is absolutely not necessary and easily avoidable.
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It can be worked out next week. While the Chapter 3 is out. I honestly don't see any drawbacks in this approach.
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Yeah, it's a completely fair viewpoint. We're quibbling over minutiae, really.
Most likely my fault for being the inflexible sort of person who finds presenting something with the knowledge that I'll have to go back and fix it pretty abhorrent.
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Well, this game is the only reason I'm still here, so...
I'll come back around when Notty posts an update on Patreon.
Peace out, ya'll.
Peace out, ya'll.
As if I'd get the details wrong...
No rifling mark on the bullet, and bullet case looks rifle ammo but came from pistol?
About reloading:
"The old man's still an artist with a Thompson."
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Many valid points brought up though, though I think I'm leaning towards what Akamari is saying here. I'd probably get to crunching on proper solutions to the file size issue after the chapter is posted if it is more or less feature complete already, and then apply any solutions afterwards. Then wait with developing chapter 4 until the issue has been solved in an acceptable manner.
You should go back in time, get your J.D. from Harvard, and then immediately become my legal counsel upon graduation so that I'm not stuck with the clueless asshole squadron that I have now.
I don't think it's wrong to suggest that Notty release the game and then fix everything after the fact. As my friends in the adult film industry say: "everything can be fixed in post." The game is still quite young and wouldn't stress my gig-speed internet in the slightest, but I'd be willing to guess that most people in the civilized world could also handle this update. It's also a great opportunity to push a very high quality product on a weekend.
However, I'm also not paying her, so my opinion doesn't mean shit. If the Patrons are peasants with DSL, then the paying customer cums first. I also believe that, if I were getting paid like $500/mo for my passion, creativity, and virtually all of my free time, then I'd absolutely want to do it my way.
As long as there is space adventure, depravity, and blackmail, then I'm fully on board with whatever decision is made. The only decision I'm against is someone actually taking Notty up on the refund, 'cause fuck anyone who can't handle a small delay.
Someone should have told Bethesda that, with their 52 GB day one patch heh....
- Jun 3, 2017
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Gents,
You'll forgive me I trust for not making any individual answers as I'm trying to stay away from my keyboard this weekend to refresh and recharge the old batteries, so I wish to keep this somewhat brief. However, my spider sense was tingling and I didn't want any disagreements between your good selves to impact upon this somewhat happier part of the internet.
I thank you for you council and advice on the matter of size and Chapter Three, and you all make perfectly valid points. Nothing said is factually incorrect and indeed I can fully appreciate why my decision may seem silly, if not ludicrous.
After all, the chapter -is- done. Bug free and ready to go. Releasing it now would be commercially correct in that only would I not be putting my existing patron funds at risk of refunds but I would also be able to release Chapter Two for free, which would gain me more exposure. Especially, when one considers how much better (at least in my opinion) Two was to One. And as for Three to Two the leap is even greater.
So why aren't I?
Because, yes it would take the pressure off me; yes it would be safeguard my funds and yes it would indeed gain me more exposure here and elsewhere which could lead to more patrons - but, it wouldn't be fair to do so. It wouldn't be fair to those patrons who would struggle with the massive download. I can not in good conscience release a game that not all my patrons can play. It's as simple as that.
This is of course partly my fault in that I use so many graphics of course. I could, as some do, use a smaller frame size or make more use of static or more reusable images. Did I really need (and forgive me, I'm guessing slightly here as I really don't want to open Renpy again this weekend) thirty odd images for Chris and the MC to walk to the station in Two, or indeed the sixty odd for drinks with Annie? So near a hundred images for just two out of the thirteen scenes in that chapter. Did I need to do that? Perhaps not. Hell, probably not. But it wouldn't be the same experience or game if I hadn't...(side-eye anyone?)
And since that isn't likely to change, you can perhaps appreciate my slight obsession with size (no! not like that! Pervs ). Ultimately, I have faith in cracking the individual chapter download issue. I've cracked the code and script part, I just need to stop it overwriting the graphics files with just the current chapters. But I haven't managed that for chapter three and hence my focus on the animation.
You are of course fully entitled to disagree with my viewpoint. It is, after all a matter of judgement and not subject to facts. But ultimately, rightly or wrongly, it's my call.
See you later next week when the Chapter comes out. Stay lucky!
You'll forgive me I trust for not making any individual answers as I'm trying to stay away from my keyboard this weekend to refresh and recharge the old batteries, so I wish to keep this somewhat brief. However, my spider sense was tingling and I didn't want any disagreements between your good selves to impact upon this somewhat happier part of the internet.
I thank you for you council and advice on the matter of size and Chapter Three, and you all make perfectly valid points. Nothing said is factually incorrect and indeed I can fully appreciate why my decision may seem silly, if not ludicrous.
After all, the chapter -is- done. Bug free and ready to go. Releasing it now would be commercially correct in that only would I not be putting my existing patron funds at risk of refunds but I would also be able to release Chapter Two for free, which would gain me more exposure. Especially, when one considers how much better (at least in my opinion) Two was to One. And as for Three to Two the leap is even greater.
So why aren't I?
Because, yes it would take the pressure off me; yes it would be safeguard my funds and yes it would indeed gain me more exposure here and elsewhere which could lead to more patrons - but, it wouldn't be fair to do so. It wouldn't be fair to those patrons who would struggle with the massive download. I can not in good conscience release a game that not all my patrons can play. It's as simple as that.
This is of course partly my fault in that I use so many graphics of course. I could, as some do, use a smaller frame size or make more use of static or more reusable images. Did I really need (and forgive me, I'm guessing slightly here as I really don't want to open Renpy again this weekend) thirty odd images for Chris and the MC to walk to the station in Two, or indeed the sixty odd for drinks with Annie? So near a hundred images for just two out of the thirteen scenes in that chapter. Did I need to do that? Perhaps not. Hell, probably not. But it wouldn't be the same experience or game if I hadn't...(side-eye anyone?)
And since that isn't likely to change, you can perhaps appreciate my slight obsession with size (no! not like that! Pervs
). Ultimately, I have faith in cracking the individual chapter download issue. I've cracked the code and script part, I just need to stop it overwriting the graphics files with just the current chapters. But I haven't managed that for chapter three and hence my focus on the animation.You are of course fully entitled to disagree with my viewpoint. It is, after all a matter of judgement and not subject to facts. But ultimately, rightly or wrongly, it's my call.
See you later next week when the Chapter comes out. Stay lucky!
Was that before or after they deleted the game from your hard drive? Oh yeah, both!
and they say size doesn't matter...
Here's hoping a full size one is an option as well.
Have you tried webp format?