Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[TomberryDude]

I think that is what happened to most of us that tried to play it first time like a regular porn game, it takes a little adjustment to start playing based upon real choices instead of just jumping to the hoops to get to the smutty stuff as most games are built up. Anyone has some solar panels to polish?

Edit: Nottravis this might actually be one of the problems with popularity of the game, in a way if you start it with the wrong attitude the game might feel wrong instead of exciting. Maybe not using the right words here, but for me not reaching any of the goals at end of first chapter made me replay to see more, someone else might give up at that moment though.

I think, sadly, you may be right.

However, if that is the case then there is little I can do about it. Although I do want it to be popular I also can't compromise on the basic foundation of the game either.

Well, funnily enough I didn't play this like "a porn" game. Which I assume is blackmailing Sarah, submitting to Chris and jumping on Trisha at the first opportunity.

But then again I play all games with choices the same. I make the choices I think I'd most likely make myself in that situation. Which means no blackmailing, no submitting to a domme for easy sexy time and not immediately falling to some frustrated wife I just met.

I garantee those things would happen in a normal porn game and I'd be up to nose in sex by now.

But I like having the choice, and I appreciate the good story and characters. I take it there's more to it than just playing games with Sarah and taking her on the mission cuz I did and all I "got" out of it was a round of "strip gladiator".

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Shouldn't those links be at the OP for better visualization ?

Not if they are janky versions that don't work, that would just dissuade people from trying the game again in the future.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

And yep. I could never understand the porn game logic of if you want to progress with X first you have to shag Y. Nonsense in my book.

So many games do that..hehe

Edit: Nottravis this might actually be one of the problems with popularity of the game, in a way if you start it with the wrong attitude the game might feel wrong instead of exciting. Maybe not using the right words here, but for me not reaching any of the goals at end of first chapter made me replay to see more, someone else might give up at that moment though.

From what i see games from developers who already finished one or more previous games or that start already having sex scenes on V0.1 releases tend to attract more of a crowd.

 

[TomberryDude]

So many games do that..hehe

From what i see games from developers who already finished one or more previous games or that start already having sex scenes on V0.1 releases tend to attract more of a crowd.

I wouldn't be surprised. I'm guilty or looking for porn first when it comes to games here. And even if i didn't, I can't blame people for what they want to consume for entertainment. All I can say is if Heavy Five keep with the quality it has now, people who want an adult game with a good story and characters will eventually come.

Eventually might be too late for some though, unfortunately

 

[DA22]

Well, funnily enough I didn't play this like "a porn" game. Which I assume is blackmailing Sarah, submitting to Chris and jumping on Trisha at the first opportunity.

But then again I play all games with choices the same. I make the choices I think I'd most likely make myself in that situation. Which means no blackmailing, no submitting to a domme for easy sexy time and not immediately falling to some frustrated wife I just met.

I garantee those things would happen in a normal porn game and I'd be up to nose in sex by now.

But I like having the choice, and I appreciate the good story and characters. I take it there's more to it than just playing games with Sarah and taking her on the mission cuz I did and all I "got" out of it was a round of "strip gladiator".

That is it for now, but if you also went into the cave with her, you might get an idea of how one of her paths will develop in chapters 4 and later. You also had a perfect win and loss in the game? (rollback is your friend). Yeah I also made most first choices as I would normally do, but in this game you also need to relate to the women based upon how they react to you as you would do with a real woman. This makes a big difference.

 

[Akamari]

From what i see games from developers who already finished one or more previous games or that start already having sex scenes on V0.1 releases tend to attract more of a crowd.

What attracts the crowd is that they already have a crowd and a completed game in their record.

I may be different, but I almost never enjoy sex scenes in 0.1 because they arrive before I get to know and like the characters. Cheap sex is cheap.

 

[TomberryDude]

That is it for now, but if you also went into the cave with her, you might get an idea of how one of her paths will develop in chapters 4 and later. You also had a perfect win and loss in the game? (rollback is your friend). Yeah I also made most first choices as I would normally do, but in this game you also need to relate to the women based upon how they react to you as you would do with a real woman. This makes a big difference.

Sounds like being manipulative to me. Which I suppose does get you what you want but I don't like it. I did win at strip gladiator, I'm not that much of a loser. And I did check both options on the mission.

Not entirely sure what you mean, she got stuck in webs and we killed a spider. Not much else happened.

 

[Akamari]

All I can say is if Heavy Five keep with the quality it has now, people who want an adult game with a good story and characters will eventually come.

Yep, yep. It's all about the right audience finding its way to it.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

I never said everyone living was a good ending tho....

But Mike won't die in four, it's too soon to make impact and niether be satisfactory

We need a reaction!

On the whole incest thing....putting aside ACIO (see I hadn't forgot!) let's just say it's different. I'm not sure I'll put it as a tag however. It's tricky for me to explain - so I won't!

She's Thea, isn't she ?

A nice option to have would be locked doors! (looking at you, Chris )
Also, a master key and sleeping pills/hypnosis book for the MC...

A master key and a mindmelt

Hey Tom

Thanks for giving my silly little game a try and I'm so very pleased you're finding something to enjoy about it.

It is, as you've guessed, a heavy story based first and foremost and is quite a slow burn for the first couple of chapters. Largely as I needed to set up quite a few things for the player and get them into the rhythm of the game, understand some of the plot and get a feel for the characters.

Three it starts to warm up and Four goes rather bonkers on the old sex front btw...

But as the guys say, there are a lot of paths and your relationships with the characters will very much depend on your choices. Chris is a good example whereby she can be an antagonist, a friend, a domme or indeed a pure romance option all depending on how you play your MC. I never saw why characters in games had to one dimensional. Why they couldn't react like...well, like we do y'know? We like people we like and we don't like people we don't. So why shouldn't they?

But for each character there is more than one path and relationship and not all of those have to be sexual. After all Amanda might not be everyone's cup of tea sexually but you still might like her. Again, I never saw why your relationship with a character in the game had to be purely defined by sex.

As to Sarah...well, she's one of the more interesting ones pathwise. She certainly has an odd outlook on life for sure...

I'll try to be as polite as possible but people not liking Amanda, often wake up next to an Elton John impersonator...

 

[DA22]

Sounds like being manipulative to me. Which I suppose does get you what you want but I don't like it. I did win at strip gladiator, I'm not that much of a loser. And I did check both options on the mission.

Not entirely sure what you mean, she got stuck in webs and we killed a spider. Not much else happened.

Manipulative is the negative word, the positive one would be responsive in this case. There is a difference between saying I will just act like I want to and then expecting everyone to like that and you and being honest but also charming and not trying to ruffle any feathers unnecessarily and make a good impression.

Well perfect wins and losses do give some extra eye candy, also if you went to the cave with Sarah and kept it a secret you might have a little talk with her after the VR that is illuminating and since it is part of her character, that will also be a part of her on her bad route and romance route.

 

[Akamari]

She's Thea, isn't she ?

It is rather easy to think that, isn't it?

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[TomberryDude]

Manipulative is the negative word, the positive one would be responsive in this case. There is a difference between saying I will just act like I want to and then expecting everyone to like that and you and being honest but also charming and not trying to ruffle any feathers unnecessarily and make a good impression.

Well perfect wins and losses do give some extra eye candy, also if you went to the cave with Sarah and kept it a secret you might have a little talk with her after the VR that is illuminating and since it is part of her character, that will also be a part of her on her bad route and romance route.

Being honest yeah. I might have misundertood but I meant I don't tell people what they wanna hear to get favors. Does that make things more difficult, sure. But I also would feel guilty doing it. Even in a game, if I'm given a choice.

I'm showing my insecurities about wooing the ladies but I don't want anyone to think that's a criticism against the game. Ironically I care about the characters here a whole deal more than in most games with more sex. Especially Chris and Sarah, so far.

And I don't even particularly want to fuck Chris. (or more acurately I don't want her to peg me or something)

 

[Huitieme]

Regarding the lack of popularity, I've recently proposed Heavy Five to be featured in the list of... well... featured games. It's supposed to increase a game's visibility, even though I don't know if it really works. Well, if it gets H5 into the slider thing on the homepage, it's all good

Hi guys! Looking at the prerequisites to get a game featured on that list, I heartily recommend Heavy Five!
Not only is the dev, Nottravis, totally active in the forum, but the game's thread has already gone way past its 750th page with nary a troll, a complaint or a "when nxt update? dev is hack!" kind of message. The H5 community is active, benevolent and friendly, if a little bit chatty.

The only issue I can see is that we all feel this gem of a game deserves to be more popular

Just picture it, interesting characters, freakingly good writing, funny bits and serious ones, intelligent situations, Heavy Five's got all of that, and more. It only lacks a bit in sex scenes for now, the first three chapters being mainly focused on introducing the setup and characters, but now that the introductory period is over, next chapter is already sure to bring happiness (in the form of sex) for everyone! Lots of different kinks are also to be expected, as well as more than 100 different paths by the end of the game!

So I advise Notty's bitches to *not* spam the thread (as it could be counterproductive) but instead to make their voices heard as well on the matter

I ain't asking for like (as I don't give half a rat's ass about likes, this ain't facebook) but maybe if such a demand was backed up by a few members...

 

[TheDevian]

Done-zo. So, first off, leave it to me in a game where you can fail to seduce people to actually fail to seduce anyone. That's just depressing. Not doing wonders to my ego.

Yes, I do like the game a lot so far. And I like what you're saying about not all relationship having to be sexual in nature. Seeing as I'm pretty much the monogamous romantic type in real life, I also like romance in my games as well. Not a requirement, hell, I'm not always after it but I like having choices. Including choices to not pursue characters that aren't my type, sexually.

Yeah, don't feel bad, I used to be quite successful back in the day IRL, but I missed a few keys points that were critical the first time around for everyone. But like a Choose Your Own Adventure, it's designed to learn and try again. No matter how many times you play, there will almost always be something new to see.

And yep. I could never understand the porn game logic of if you want to progress with X first you have to shag Y. Nonsense in my book.

Well, there are times when that can make sense, I mean, if you want to get with the Spice Girls, you have to get with their friends, but in most situations ...not so much. Ideally, everyone is an option, and everyone is optional.

So many games do that..hehe

From what i see games from developers who already finished one or more previous games or that start already having sex scenes on V0.1 releases tend to attract more of a crowd.

I have my guy starting with a couple of established love interests, that he has been with for decades or more, while everyone else you have to work a bit for. It's the 1990's though, so finding enough solar panels will be a bitch!

I wouldn't be surprised. I'm guilty or looking for porn first when it comes to games here. And even if i didn't, I can't blame people for what they want to consume for entertainment. All I can say is if Heavy Five keep with the quality it has now, people who want an adult game with a good story and characters will eventually come.

Eventually might be too late for some though, unfortunately

There are times when all I want is a 'Quick Easy Fun Time' (I think that's a Japanese VN title), especially when it's really late and my mind is starting to shut down, even been one or two days when I was so tired that even typing in a name was too much trouble!

She's Thea, isn't she ?

She has been one of my main suspects for some time now. That incident about the pet was a dead give-a-way!

 

[TomberryDude]

Yeah, don't feel bad, I used to be quite successful back in the day IRL, but I missed a few keys points that were critical the first time around for everyone. But like a Choose Your Own Adventure, it's designed to learn and try again. No matter how many times you play, there will almost always be something new to see.

I've never been successful, quite honestly. When I was a teen I thought "I have all the time in the world" "I don't want to go on superficial date with shallow people, i'm not even that interested in sex". More than a decade later I feel like I have wasted my youth. For that reason and others, dating has been even harder since. And I am very much interested in sex...

I need a teacher. Be my jedi master, Devi-one Kenobi.

.... sorry about that, that was a lot of real life self pity talk for a forum about adult gaming.

 

[Akamari]

Regarding the lack of popularity, I've recently proposed Heavy Five to be featured in the list of... well... featured games. It's supposed to increase a game's visibility, even though I don't know if it really works. Well, if it gets H5 into the slider thing on the homepage, it's all good

Yeah, I think that could help a lot! I was hoping H5 could be included back in spring, but...well it was not to be...

It totally gave a big boost (like double in less than a month, from around 650 to 1200 in income) to The Deluca Family when it popped up there in November. And that's a story-focused game that doesn't have sex yet.

Also, looking at the prerequisites.

- The developer must be active in the F95Zone community
- The developer can't have more than 1000 patrons
- The games must have an active audience in terms of positive reviews from the community, comments etc
- The developer can't have a history of abuse including; banning patrons, deleting comments, abandoning projects for prolonged periods of time, like boosting, other drama...
- Must be voted for by the Staff/Moderation team

It will be a big disappointment if Heavy Five isn't included during the next rotation... Though it is possible the "less than 1000 patrons" won't be checked by the time it happens.

 

[TheDevian]

I've never been successful, quite honestly. When I was a teen I thought "I have all the time in the world" "I don't want to go on superficial date with shallow people, i'm not even that interested in sex". More than a decade later I feel like I have wasted my youth. For that reason and others, dating has been even harder since. And I am very much interested in sex...

I need a teacher. Be my jedi master, Devi-one Kenobi.

.... sorry about that, that was a lot of real life self pity talk for a forum about adult gaming.

It's true, the older you get, the harder it can be, a large part due to not having the close connection that being a fellow student makes and going back now just feels creepy.

And the 'adult' hang outs are not for everyone. Not all of us want to go to bars, clubs, and whatnot. Having been out of the scene for decades, the best advice I can give is to find something you enjoy doing where people meet, like a club for a hobby, or a gym if you are into that, take care of yourself (be clean and presentable), be confident (not a jerk), and don't be afraid of rejection. ...it will happen a lot.

Regarding the lack of popularity, I've recently proposed Heavy Five to be featured in the list of... well... featured games. It's supposed to increase a game's visibility, even though I don't know if it really works. Well, if it gets H5 into the slider thing on the homepage, it's all good



So I advise Notty's bitches to *not* spam the thread (as it could be counterproductive) but instead to make their voices heard as well on the matter

I ain't asking for like (as I don't give half a rat's ass about likes, this ain't facebook) but maybe if such a demand was backed up by a few members...

A lot of people just don't play games in the first few chapters, or until there is sex content in the game, so I have a good feeling that we will see a big uptick after the next update.

 

[DA22]

It's true, the older you get, the harder it can be, a large part due to not having the close connection that being a fellow student makes and going back now just feels creepy.
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And the 'adult' hang outs are not for everyone. Not all of us want to go to bars, clubs, and whatnot. Having been out of the scene for decades, the best advice I can give is to find something you enjoy doing where people meet, like a club for a hobby, or a gym if you are into that, take care of yourself (be clean and presentable), be confident (not a jerk), and don't be afraid of rejection.

Also be aware it is a two-way street, It is not only what you want, but also what she wants. Clubs and such or other hobby related things are a good advice since you will have a good reason to spend time together, but even then you will need to make her feel good and enjoy your company. That is not the same as being manipulative though.

 

[TheDevian]

Also be aware it is a two-way street, It is not only what you want, but also what she wants. Clubs and such or other hobby related things are a good advice since you will have a good reason to spend time together, but even then you will need to make her feel good and enjoy your company. That is not the same as being manipulative though.

Exactly, if you are enjoying your time there, then it's not a waste, even if you fail to get a date. The best relationships start with friendships first.

 

[Akamari]

A lot of people just don't play games in the first few chapters, or until there is sex content in the game, so I have a good feeling that we will see a big uptick after the next update.

Totally agree with this. As many games offer 10 minutes worth of updates, I can understand why 0.3 wouldn't appeal to many. I think it's quite a usual curve for many successful games to have it first two or three releases growing slowly and then it suddenly spikes upwards.