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NakedSingularity

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But even if he wanted to get some cash on Patreon, he can always add a patch?
They are supposedly cracking down on that as well. If they find out that the patch is dev-created (it's not like they don't have snitches watching this and other forums and dev sites, as well as other Patreon users snitching) then they get banned. Fuck Patreon, I'm not paying 8% of my donations supporting such shit, even if it is mostly due to Paypal (that I also quit using) putting pressure on them and them choosing the money from them over anti-censorsorship. If devs don't have a SS option then they get no support from me no matter what it is they are selling (not just AVN's), simple as that, and sometimes I won't support them anyway if they are obviously Patreon suck-ups when they have both options.
 
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HentaiKami

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They are supposedly cracking down on that as well. If they find out that the patch is dev-created (it's not like they don't have snitches watching this and other forums and dev sites, as well as other Patreon users snicthing) and they get banned. Fuck Patreon, I'm not paying 8% of my donations supporting such shit, even if it is mostly due to Paypal (that I also quit using) putting pressure on them and them choosing the money from them over anti-censorsorship. If devs don't have a SS option then they get no support from me no matter what it is they are selling (not just AVN's), simple as that, and sometimes I won't support them anyway if they are obviously Patreon suck-ups when they have both options.
While it's preferrable that devs would use SS and other services than patreon, sad fact is that Patreon has too big of a role in the market, that many devs just can't afford to ignore using it. And thus conforming into its rules. It's not cheap to develop games, unless you pirate the assets, and are hoping to turn it into a semi-professional career. Hopefully that changes at some point in the future, but i won't hold out my breath for it to happen soon.
 

NakedSingularity

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While it's preferrable that devs would use SS and other services than patreon, sad fact is that Patreon has too big of a role in the market, that many devs just can't afford to ignore using it. And thus conforming into its rules. It's not cheap to develop games, unless you pirate the assets, and are hoping to turn it into a semi-professional career. Hopefully that changes at some point in the future, but i won't hold out my breath for it to happen soon.
If a dev "can't afford not to use it" then they are doing it for money rather than simply wanting to tell a story, which to me makes it just another cash grab that should be ignored, often those get abandoned anyway when income from subs don't meet unrealistic expectations after 4-6 months. I'm starting to put together my own AVN (probably out summer next year), I couldn't care less about the money. Probably what little (if any) I get from SS will be put back in it for more Daz assets and similar, assuming I can't find pirated versions like I can with the music. There's no way in hell I'd alter my story (based on a true one in the main path so I'm not going to turn it into ridiculous roommates, landlords and step-shit with every cartoon "18yo") to make Patreon happy. I'd rather simply do without the income and stay poor (if in fact I was poor, EE is my "day job") rather than give them an 8% cut too. Same for Steam that doesn't allow lolis (though those will not be in the prologue, at least not naked), rather have 0 income from it than give them a ridiculous 30% cut as well. I guess I'm that way in general because after $60k a year I purposely stop making more money just so the gov't can't legally rob me either (I'd rather watch it burn than help support policing or blowing up some foreign country I couldn't give 2 shits less about when I can barely give a shit about even my own state/county or even outside my own neighborhood). That's not hard if one isn't materialistic and wanting to buy status shit they don't need (yachts, supercars, etc) or gathering more 0's before the decimal point on a bank site's web page. Ok digressional rant over.
 
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MrJay

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So two questions, what are the rewards for the minigames? If they're just static images that's good, because I don't care about those anyway, and so I can skip the minigames without a worry.

And is there any content you miss for playing as a VN instead of free roam?
 

Nikko_

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In terms of story, writing, characters and sh*t this remake is a step down. Now is just another harem with a "mommy" and "sisters" stupid incest story. Oh, and how can we forget the supernatural element... is it even the same writer handling the story? Well, I am not calling it sh*t, but the new direction is kind of dissapointing
 

Knight of the Dawn

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Edit:
  • Added patreon/xray always unlocked
  • Made scenes in scene gallery unlocked
Updated for 0.8.2


I've made a walkthrough/gallery mod for this game

  • Added a "Unlock all" button to collectibles
  • Fixed the page 2 of scene gallery not showing
  • Added more scenes to the scene gallery
  • Resized the diary so it's easier to read
Install: Merge the "game" folder from the mod with the one from your Red Falls folder then overwrite if prompted

Download: PIXELDRAIN
scrappy Can you please update the mod?
 

Rebeldad

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Edit:
  • Added patreon/xray always unlocked
  • Made scenes in scene gallery unlocked
Updated for 0.8.2


I've made a walkthrough/gallery mod for this game

  • Added a "Unlock all" button to collectibles
  • Fixed the page 2 of scene gallery not showing
  • Added more scenes to the scene gallery
  • Resized the diary so it's easier to read
Install: Merge the "game" folder from the mod with the one from your Red Falls folder then overwrite if prompted

Download: PIXELDRAIN
Not sure if Scrappy is still doing updates for this VN. Anyone know?
 

preskerd

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In terms of story, writing, characters and sh*t this remake is a step down. Now is just another harem with a "mommy" and "sisters" stupid incest story. Oh, and how can we forget the supernatural element... is it even the same writer handling the story? Well, I am not calling it sh*t, but the new direction is kind of dissapointing
Maybe don't go into game harem game threads? Do you see people who goes into your cuckold game threads and complain about boring ntr games? If not then have the curtisty to do the same. This game has always been a vanilla harem game from the start. They only removed one fucking character which wasn't fit with the harem/vanilla setting of the game. Not everbody jerks of their dicks to their love interest in the game get fucked by other dudes in the game. In fact most people don't. Also before you say 'muh this is porn game!!!' If I want watch porn I would watch porn. In game I put myself into mc's shoes to immerse myself like any other rpg games. If you do put yourself in mc's shoes and still jerk off to other dude fucking the love interests....well... have fun I guess. There are many kinks in the world at the end. Just stop shitpost into harem/vanilla game threads that's all
 
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Nikko_

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Maybe don't go into game harem game threads? Do you see people who goes into your cuckold game threads and complain about boring ntr games? If not then have the curtisty to do the same. This game has always been a vanilla harem game from the start. They only removed one fucking character which wasn't fit with the harem/vanilla setting of the game. Not everbody jerks of their dicks to their love interest in the game get fucked by other dudes in the game. In fact most people don't. Also before you say 'muh this is porn game!!!' If I want watch porn I would watch porn. In game I put myself into mc's shoes to immerse myself like any other rpg games. If you do put yourself in mc's shoes and still jerk off to other dude fucking the love interests....well... have fun I guess. There are many kinks in the world at the end. Just stop shitpost into harem/vanilla game threads that's all
Wow, you came up with all of that cause somebody criticized the game you are jerking off to? Better ponder on that.
Now, I am not particularly a fan of NTR, but I am not against it since I don't immerse myself the way you do.
For you to criticize those who are into NTR when you are into "fucking your mommy and sisters" is laughable. Care to guess which is actually messed up. And of course is not messed up for everybody, but you just outed yourself with: "In game I put myself into mc's shoes to immerse myself.."
 

Aelth

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So did the dev bother fixing the dialogue? Last time I played the not-mom was still ordering the MC around like she was his mother and the MC was still in a moral quandary about fucking his not-sisters.
 

NakedSingularity

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In terms of story, writing, characters and sh*t this remake is a step down. Now is just another harem with a "mommy" and "sisters" stupid incest story. Oh, and how can we forget the supernatural element... is it even the same writer handling the story? Well, I am not calling it sh*t, but the new direction is kind of dissapointing
Hell even the incest was removed, so now it's just another stupid story with better-than-average renders (thousands, at least the incest had only hundreds of other competitors). It's not total shit, as there's plenty that are still worse. But with a few improvements like optional sandboxes/free roams the negative changes were enough to make me completely lose interest (no incest or lolis = dealbreaker as I have no time for vanilla AVNs with college or girl camp settings that are a dime a dozen and/or a yet another Being A DIK ripoff).
 

NakedSingularity

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Why are people talking like it is a ntr game and just switched to a harem game. This is from the beginning so people cant get mad when this harem game has ntr but when it goes back to harem it is the harem fans fault.
I never did understand why people want such unrealistic shit as a world where they are the only male that exists. It's totally ridiculous, like an incest AVN (that I actually tend to be a fan of) where B/S M/S etc fuck the day after they first kiss with 0 issues with it to avoid the slow-burn tag. That shouldn't even be called an AVN but just the cartoon version of Pornhub.
 

Dragon Ember

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idk whats up with this error message everytime u start a new game
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/images/e1/e2.rpy", line 335, in script
if mr_thoughtful_e1i1184 == 0:
File "game/images/e1/e2.rpy", line 335, in <module>
if mr_thoughtful_e1i1184 == 0:
NameError: name 'mr_thoughtful_e1i1184' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/images/e1/e2.rpy", line 335, in script
if mr_thoughtful_e1i1184 == 0:
File "renpy/ast.py", line 2115, in execute
if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
File "renpy/python.py", line 1080, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "renpy/python.py", line 1073, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/images/e1/e2.rpy", line 335, in <module>
if mr_thoughtful_e1i1184 == 0:
NameError: name 'mr_thoughtful_e1i1184' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.22621 AMD64
Ren'Py 7.5.1.22070801
Helping the Hotties 0.8.9
Sun Nov 27 19:15:48 2022
plz fix this issue
 
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