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Slamjax

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I have a question, on the DARK DRUID path, we had that dream invasion thing, with the Queen and another girl, will they be introduced to the game, have any major significance, or that was just a show?
Queen Muina and Evera both belong to the Kingdom of Ulaid in the Irish mythology. Ulaid is most commonly associated with the Ulster Cycle of Irish mythology. DARK DRUID revolves around Fionn Mac Cumhaill and his Fianna, which is told in the Fenian Cycle. I'd like to add them more into DARK DRUID, but the down-side is more female characters and tangling the MC into two mythological cycles, which would get messy.

We may see them again, but they won't ever be central characters for the druid.
 
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Slamjax can I ask for hints on the missing scenes? They're the only ones missing and I really don't know which route to find them or what I am missing. Been through everything else. Thanks.

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Anyone can tell what the missing scenes are? Couldn't figure it out at all - and not even if it is Warlord or Druid path (since the scene before this one is Rhiannon).
Slamjax can I ask for hints on the missing scenes? They're the only ones missing and I really don't know which route to find them or what I am missing. Been through everything else. Thanks.
Your two missing scenes are from the Warlord path. The scenes are "Lia Seduced" and "Clio Seduced". They're unlocked the exactly same way, the only difference is if you choose to travel with Lia or Clio in an earlier choice.

How to unlock:
  • When you arrive at Brigid, Rhiannon will try to seduce you in the evening. Don't spend the night with her, visit the Red Woman instead. You can sleep with Rhiannon, but go to the meeting after.
  • Rhiannon need >= 5 curse. Easiest is to reject Rhiannon in the evening and go to the meeting directly.
  • When Lia/Clio split up with Brigid, Lia/Clio should go to the sanctum.
 
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I finished the game (what there is, at least)! Now it's time for ramblings!

First of all, a great thank you to the Developers! What a journey, what a story! Each path has a distinct feeling, a personality so to speak. Each touches on different parts of mythology, even though most of them happen in the same lands. Each is exciting! Loved them all! Pumped up to play next update!

And now to questions and ramblings:

1. Are those curses useful to our hero or they are going to cause problems later on? I'm asking about Bard and Warlord path, since on Druids you are in control of it. I always presumed they are here to hurt us.
2. It's ironic that best Bard's playthrough (maximum stats advancement and no curse) after awakening is completely chaste right now. You can have sex, but would need to forfeit part of the advancement or companion would be cursed.
3. I don't understand Bard's deal. 1) Powers. On Druid path we have lots of magic and some fighting ability. On Champion path we have great fighting ability and some strange power boosts. Warlord has great fighting ability and is pretty good in magic himself (I was seriously surprised with how good he is). Bard has some fighting ability (but doesn't scale up to professional warriors of Tuatha) and no magic? I mean he uses powers, but those aren't his, they are part of the artifacts he carries. 2) Characterisation. Druid is devious, Warlord is ferocious and confident (even overconfident), Champion is heroic and wise, Bard is... I don't know, really. He isn't especially wise or knowledgeable, nor is he cunning. He even seems to posses less charisma than a Warlord! What I'm missing here?
 
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I don't understand Bard's deal. 1) Powers. On Druid path we have lots of magic and some fighting ability. On Champion path we have great fighting ability and some strange power boosts. Warlord has great fighting ability and is pretty good in magic himself (I was seriously surprised with how good he is). Bard has some fighting ability (but doesn't scale up to professional warriors of Tuatha) and no magic? I mean he uses powers, but those aren't his, they are part of the artifacts he carries. 2) Characterisation. Druid is devious, Warlord is ferocious and confident (even overconfident), Champion is heroic and wise, Bard is... I don't know, really. He isn't especially wise or knowledgeable, nor is he cunning. He even seems to posses less charisma than a Warlord! What I'm missing here?
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Well ... we got the famous bard in the series and games of The Witcher ... this is the kind of persona today's writers offer.
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From what I've been told, Warlord and Druid are the favorite story lines. I guess people just like playing MCs that have a bit of a wicked edge to them.
That and amount of sex and power MC gets on each route. On Warlord path Scythian is basically a gigachad who does what he wants anytime, does it spectacularly and is so cool that ladies flock to him almost (sometimes - literally) begging to be fucked. Even the Goddess. Druid is a devious mastermind (while being unstoppable force of pure magical destruction) who holds all the cards while slowly, but inevitably corrupting women into being his whores.

Champion is super strong, but pines for one girl and didn't even fuck her yet (at least he could cheat without consequences), while serving other people interests.
Bard doesn't seem to be very powerful, his deeds don't scale up to MC feats on other routes and he can have whopping one sex scene during his playthrough.

Don't get me wrong, I personally enjoyed all routes for what they are, but those factors might have played a role in people preferences.
 
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Slamjax

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That and amount of sex and power MC gets on each route. On Warlord path Scythian is basically a gigachad who does what he wants anytime, does it spectacularly and is so cool that ladies flock to him almost (sometimes - literally) begging to be fucked. Even the Goddess. Druid is a devious mastermind (while being unstoppable force of pure magical destruction) who holds all the cards while slowly, but inevitably corrupting women into being his whores.

Champion is super strong, but pines for one girl and didn't even fuck her yet (at least he could cheat without consequences), while serving other people interests.
Bard doesn't seem to be very powerful, his deeds don't scale up to MC feats on other routes and he can have whopping one sex scene during his playthrough.

Don't get me wrong, I personally enjoyed all routes for what they are, but those factors might have played a role in people preferences.
When writing for this game, the Warlord is to me the most mythological figure in the sense of how he acts and makes decisions. His deeds define him more than his character. The most interesting thing to me about the Warlord are actually his associated companions. I've mentioned before that the Champion has surprisingly been my favorite path to write - I did not expect that. As for the Bard, he only had one installment before DARK DRUID kicked off, so he has had the least time for development. Bards in Irish mythology have a special place in society - they are basically treated as VIPs no matter where they go. The Bard path is a change of pace in that he would rely on his wits more so than his strength - but he's still pretty handy with twin blades. Finally, the stone embedded in the Druid's chest may not be the boon players think it is. Ask Aideen.
 

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I tried to get into druid path from prologue, but the i_sex needing to be so low makes it kind of impossible... Pass up on banging some chicks? No way....

Basically, I was expecting some kind of prologue decision that separates warlord vs druid by brute force vs scheming choice. But instead, the way to get druid is to be bad but only limited to banging one of the three possible girls in the prologue. That doesn't really make sense to me thematically. Because not banging them has nothing to do with being devious scheming baddie.
 

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I tried to get into druid path from prologue, but the i_sex needing to be so low makes it kind of impossible... Pass up on banging some chicks? No way....

Basically, I was expecting some kind of prologue decision that separates warlord vs druid by brute force vs scheming choice. But instead, the way to get druid is to be bad but only limited to banging one of the three possible girls in the prologue. That doesn't really make sense to me thematically. Because not banging them has nothing to do with being devious scheming baddie.
If you play the druid path from the 'Dark Druid' option instead of the 'Prologue', it basically addresses what you are talking about.
Try it.
 
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If you play the druid path from the 'Dark Druid' option instead of the 'Prologue', it basically addresses what you are talking about.
Try it.
I just realized that picking the class directly adds even more backstory before the events of the prologue rather than being an alternate intro.

Kinda makes going directly into prologue kind of pointless, heh.
 

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When writing for this game...
Hey, I'm not trying to offend. I liked the game for what it is and it is a lot of great things with a little pinch of salt. Just pointing out some things that could affect public opinion and overall balance.
1) I fully agree about Warlord. He's a power fantasy in it's purest form, and, as such, doesn't have a lot of room to show off a character. And that's fine, because on this path we're playing a myth. Plot and NPC are more prominent that way.
2) I'm not surprised about Champion either. Out of them all, he has the most character, so too speak, has the most prominent opinions about everything, he's most connected to the past and his morality does create this heroic feeling.
3) I know who the Bards were in Irish Trtadition, believe it or not. Highly trained, learned poets whose art seemed to have some mistical power. Some say that they were a category of druids. And that creates a bit of a problem because you can't avoid comparisons between the two. Both are VIPs, both are supposed to know what others don't, both need to have a way with words... On Druid path it was so. On Bard... Not quite. And don't get me wrong, I love how crafty Bard is. I love that he fights with daggers, that he uses wits, but... But he still didn't show that he scales up with others by whatever means he employs. And I'm not speaking about just fighting. I mean everything... And I tell you this because I want Bards to shine. I want to see how using wits and knowledge could be enough to deal with everything Celtica can bring up against him.
 
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Hey, I'm not trying to offend. I liked the game for what it is and it is a lot of great things with a little pinch of salt. Just pointing out some things that could affect public opinion and overall balance.
Why would you think I was offended? People can say whatever they want.
 

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The update is still focused on the Druid patch correct ?
i like this way better, before the game is finished it would be a massive chore to play a little each patch) if he chose to finish or really advance well the patchs one by one is much better also when you do different things you end up losing the original idea for one patch (this happens when you are reading many books at the same time you keep thinking something is from a book but eventually you lose one of the books cuz you end up mixing up the plot with another one and dont remember you had to continue one of the books)
 

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Fortunately, we have the whole early versions of this game where the final battle was over the gem that the cyclops antagonist was using and the sword that would defeat him - so boon or no boon, artefacts of power are what the MC has on his mind all throughout the game, whether is it in his or somebody elses posession.
Finally, the stone embedded in the Druid's chest may not be the boon players think it is.
The whole game story hinges on the artefacts dropping into this or that champions hands and whomever was to pesess them or some or any of them, he or she or it would rule the new discovered realms, as everyone was previously living in the lands of their maker, who would have absolute power over them.

Do you consider going the Doom lore path, where the cybertronic creations of the maker end up enslaving and/or killing him, basically turning on him as they would not like what he turned into after they had previously started leaving his domain and rule?
this happens when you are reading many books at the same time you keep thinking something is from a book but eventually you lose one of the books cuz you end up mixing up the plot with another one and dont remember you had to continue one of the books
This is still one single game with one single lore. The lore and story of everything: all peoples are originated in that other world where their maker keeps a cold amorphous souls scape for all his children: once they loose too much essence and are stripped of powers, down to their primordial structures, just as they were once made by their creator, it is then the titular ”when” their time comes, they are taken back to their ”champs elizee” where their maker can tend to them like it was always the case before they started fleeing his domain.
 

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This is really good I like the champion and bard path but its short. It focus more on druid but didnt like it.
 

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Hey, this game looks interesting. I just have a question, how is the harem like in this game? At this point in the game, do the women know that they are in a harem and accepts that they are in a harem? Is there actual romantic relationship progress and does the Mc take the time to keep his harem happy with them knowing that they are in a harem? I don't mind at all if the game is a slow burn or not, I just don't want to read about constant relationship drama that never gets solve.

I want it to actually feel like a real harem, where the Mc has official multiple girlfriends at the same time. It's just not to my taste when a harem game has the Mc be annoyingly dense about the women's feelings, or that the Mc be with multiple love interests and the love interests never interacts with each other and the Mc never mentions that he is with other women, or there's no actual romance and just sex. I especially just find it a bore when the Mc can't deal with the jealously of the love interests and it's just constant drama and fighting. I just don't find the love interests having constant jealous spats with each other entertaining at all. I also really hate it when harem games just has a bunch of casual sex or friends with benefits and little to no romance, I don't care for sex scenes at all, I'd rather actual romance progression.
 
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Hey, this game looks interesting. I just have a question, how is the harem like in this game? At this point in the game, do the women know that they are in a harem and accepts that they are in a harem? Is there actual romantic relationship progress and does the Mc take the time to keep his harem happy with them knowing that they are in a harem? I don't mind at all if the game is a slow burn or not, I just don't want to read about constant relationship drama that never gets solve.

I want it to actually feel like a real harem, where the Mc has official multiple girlfriends at the same time. It's just not to my taste when a harem game has the Mc be annoyingly dense about the women's feelings, or that the Mc be with multiple love interests and the love interests never interacts with each other and the Mc never mentions that he is with other women, or there's no actual romance and just sex. I especially just find it a bore when the Mc can't deal with the jealously of the love interests and it's just constant drama and fighting. I just don't find the love interests having constant jealous spats with each other entertaining at all. I also really hate it when harem games just has a bunch of casual sex or friends with benefits and little to no romance, I don't care for sex scenes at all, I'd rather actual romance progression.
Eh, it's complicated. Just try it.

I'll just say that there are romances and no discussions around the breakfast table about feelings, yet. But at some point in the story everything is reshuffled, so anything can happen.
 
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