patriarchy1
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Objection, BlueCat actually had an update like 6 months ago.
Objection, BlueCat actually had an update like 6 months ago.
And Stencil isn't charging anything irrc!Objection, BlueCat actually had an update like 6 months ago.
It kind of already did.I predict a speedy and voluminous (heh) release once the patron count makes its first nosedive.
At this point, I don't disagree. The whole thing is just sad. I completely understand what people are saying about taking money and not delivering. But (and people always get pissy when this is said, but idc it's fucking true) money isn't happiness. You have to be a really rare sort of person to be able to put up the front that Komi puts up and not actually be tormented and wracked with shame/guilt/anxiety. If you say you would trade places with Komi right now, you don't know what it's probably like in that guy's head.I predict a speedy and voluminous (heh) release once the patron count makes its first nosedive.
That's a fair point, and I hope he's fine in that regard: it may also be why he's basically disappeared from here and stopped saying anything (not sure what's happening on Discord). We're at the point where either he's a good guy that's suffering, and so we'd feel bad for him, or he's a scammer who doesn't care: either way, it's not a happy place to be.You have to be a really rare sort of person to be able to put up the front that Komi puts up and not actually be tormented and wracked with shame/guilt/anxiety. If you say you would trade places with Komi right now, you don't know what it's probably like in that guy's head.
JFC I forgot he was raking in 7K USD (!!!) per month. How labor intensive is it to supposedly generate a few renders and post them up as "progress", if that is what is actually happening here? I seriously can't wrap my head around how this dude can get away with collecting that much on a monthly basis without generating any real product, while theres devs out there with games released in the same year that are already completed and have now moved onto new projects who don't even make 10% of how much this guy is making.It kind of already did.
When the month rolled over to February and he missed the deadline, the patreon went from over $7k to $5.5k per month of patron donations.
He then released a sneak peek which is literally one animation. Probably as a knee jerk response to suddenly losing $1.5k in patrons.
Crippling anxiety regarding letting down his patrons with a new update is understandable. Even perfectionism is understandable. I personally don't view Komisari as a malicious actor who's trying to rip off his customers. Primarily because if it was malicious, it would make way more sense to release an update now, 2 years after the fact, only to hold off with your next update for another 2 years. You already know suckers have already stuck with him for 2 years, so whats another 2 years of waiting right?At this point, I don't disagree. The whole thing is just sad. I completely understand what people are saying about taking money and not delivering. But (and people always get pissy when this is said, but idc it's fucking true) money isn't happiness. You have to be a really rare sort of person to be able to put up the front that Komi puts up and not actually be tormented and wracked with shame/guilt/anxiety. If you say you would trade places with Komi right now, you don't know what it's probably like in that guy's head.
That said, I think "horse" when I hear hooves. Sometimes it's a zebra, and I'm wrong. Anxiety disorders are the most common illness in the developed world. And this sure looks like one to me. Could it be a clever person feigning sincerity and not giving a damn? Sure. That's just, statistically-speaking, a lot less common than the scenario I gave.
The guy needs to get help (psychiatrist +/- therapist ASAP) and to decide whether to finish the project. If he does decide to finish it, he needs a completely different approach--one that a therapist puts together for him, not his version of planning. Pausing payments is a humbling thing to do; but it takes a lot of pressure off. He can pretend all he want's that the monetary contributions are "donations" but he's human, and the money clearly creates expectations. At some point, the money isn't worth the agony caused by his inner turmoil.
Best case scenario. He pauses to get help and allows himself to work for a little while without incoming contributions. If he continues to press on the way he has, things will most likely blow up in his face. We shall see.
What's important is that the 7k USD per month goes toward his physical health, mental health and financial health. This is what really matters at the end of the day.JFC I forgot he was raking in 7K USD (!!!) per month. How labor intensive is it to supposedly generate a few renders and post them up as "progress", if that is what is actually happening here? I seriously can't wrap my head around how this dude can get away with collecting that much on a monthly basis without generating any real product, while theres devs out there with games released in the same year that are already completed and have now moved onto new projects who don't even make 10% of how much this guy is making.
Crippling anxiety regarding letting down his patrons with a new update is understandable. Even perfectionism is understandable. I personally don't view Komisari as a malicious actor who's trying to rip off his customers. Primarily because if it was malicious, it would make way more sense to release an update now, 2 years after the fact, only to hold off with your next update for another 2 years. You already know suckers have already stuck with him for 2 years, so whats another 2 years of waiting right?
I still think that anxiety and perfectionism don't excuse not having a release. I don't envy the man in his position regarding the stress, but collecting 70K USD/year without having any tangible product to show is insane to me. You'd be fired from any company/breach contracts for this kind of behavior in any industry. Or as a startup would start to bleed your investors as they lose confidence, which seems to be the way things are going.
I don't really have any skin in the game here, but its interesting as an observer to see this go down the way it is.
Maybe even a graphics card to help with renders.What's important is that the 7k USD per month goes toward his physical health, mental health and financial health. This is what really matters at the end of the day.
That's what his patreon description should be then. Komisari's medical bills, not game development.What's important is that the 7k USD per month goes toward his physical health, mental health and financial health. This is what really matters at the end of the day.
He's going to release a AAA Renpy 2 minute fishing mini-game on patreon next month then go radio silent for the next three.I don’t doubt the update has been worked on, and I do believe it’s coming out. But JFC how do you miss your original deadline by so much? Every delay raises expectations to the point where I highly doubt that the update will be able to meet it, but I would love to be proven wrong.
Idk man, anxiety disorders sure are prevalent but they affect at most 30% of population. Most of us, if we dont meet deadline, its not beacuse of any psychologiacal disroder. Its couse we couldnt make ourselves to work diligently. And lets be honest You do need pretty good work ethic to work on sth every day depsite being financialy stable ( 6k per month remeber) and not employed and therefore not facing any immediate repercusions from not "showing up to work".At this point, I don't disagree. The whole thing is just sad. I completely understand what people are saying about taking money and not delivering. But (and people always get pissy when this is said, but idc it's fucking true) money isn't happiness. You have to be a really rare sort of person to be able to put up the front that Komi puts up and not actually be tormented and wracked with shame/guilt/anxiety. If you say you would trade places with Komi right now, you don't know what it's probably like in that guy's head.
That said, I think "horse" when I hear hooves. Sometimes it's a zebra, and I'm wrong. Anxiety disorders are the most common illness in the developed world. And this sure looks like one to me. Could it be a clever person feigning sincerity and not giving a damn? Sure. That's just, statistically-speaking, a lot less common than the scenario I gave.
The guy needs to get help (psychiatrist +/- therapist ASAP) and to decide whether to finish the project. If he does decide to finish it, he needs a completely different approach--one that a therapist puts together for him, not his version of planning. Pausing payments is a humbling thing to do; but it takes a lot of pressure off. He can pretend all he want's that the monetary contributions are "donations" but he's human, and the money clearly creates expectations. At some point, the money isn't worth the agony caused by his inner turmoil.
Best case scenario. He pauses to get help and allows himself to work for a little while without incoming contributions. If he continues to press on the way he has, things will most likely blow up in his face. We shall see.