Riujin

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It sucks they abandoned this game. It really was a great porn game in my top 10!
Technically it is not abandoned, I'll probably play the game myself in the future.

While the communicational aspect of the dev sucks, I have a strange feeling that he'll complete this game... no idea when between now and the next 10 years, but I have a strange feeling he'll actually will make it done. Could be wrong of course
 

HentaiSlaves

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If he is looking for help now this game is good as dead cuz he will just do a remake again, the game was slightly dead now it's just dead idk why you people even talk about this sht anymore, He milked enough he can just drop and start something new, truly sad.

And people silenced me when i did say this was a scam like many years ago hope you learned something.
 
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hoshimota

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Technically it is not abandoned, I'll probably play the game myself in the future.

While the communicational aspect of the dev sucks, I have a strange feeling that he'll complete this game... no idea when between now and the next 10 years, but I have a strange feeling he'll actually will make it done. Could be wrong of course
Uh yeah I have a strange feeling it won't. Pretty sure the fact the dev has done fuck all for many years speaks for itself. Lazy people don't just suddenly get motivated one day, in my experience.

And people silenced me when i did say this was a scam like many years ago hope you learned something.
Dude a lot of us got our messages deleted or at the very least got bitched by all the fanboy window lickers back in the day, in this very thread. We just saw it for what it was a lot earlier.
 

loto_ortega

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It has been five (5) years. The period where Komi was an amateur has long since passed.
I get it. He came up with an amazing premise which gathered tons of praise and fans wanting MOAR. I can see myself suffering some sort of paralysis, were I in his shoes, afraid that I'd butcher what made my work great. But after all these years of supposedly reworking mechanics in a koikatsu based VN we cannot consider him an amateur.
Honestly, probably the biggest problem is that he seems to be trying to do things with Renpy that it wasn't designed for...like at all. He's laid out real big plans in the past for all kinds of mechanics, and that's probably where he's tripped himself up so much.
 

hoshimota

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Honestly, probably the biggest problem is that he seems to be trying to do things with Renpy that it wasn't designed for...like at all. He's laid out real big plans in the past for all kinds of mechanics, and that's probably where he's tripped himself up so much.
I dunno where you guys get this from. I think you're overcomplicating matters and looking for monsters under the bed.

It's really much simpler - dude in a third world country makes a porn game, gets stupid rich, suddenly loses all motivation to work really hard - the end. Epilogue: cucktreons continue to throw money at him for years, further encouraging his behavior.

It's even funnier than the WAL thread, where everyone is complaining about the Orc update taking over 2 years and still not being done. Well gee, did you try not fucking training the devs that they will get paid whether they submit timely work or not?
 

Riujin

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Uh yeah I have a strange feeling it won't. Pretty sure the fact the dev has done fuck all for many years speaks for itself. Lazy people don't just suddenly get motivated one day, in my experience.



Dude a lot of us got our messages deleted or at the very least got bitched by all the fanboy window lickers back in the day, in this very thread. We just saw it for what it was a lot earlier.
Only time will tell I suppose.

Thought I'll probably try some of your games in the suggestion list, they seems cool ^^ Thanks for the sharing!
 

HentaiSlaves

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Dude a lot of us got our messages deleted or at the very least got bitched by all the fanboy window lickers back in the day, in this very thread. We just saw it for what it was a lot earlier.
Sure man your messages got deleted but i was banned and not just once, some people did think i was full of crap and all and yet 5 years of nothing from this game..
 
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hendrixx77

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its amazing to me that even after so long with no updates on this game there are still people that can't see this has turned into a money grab from the dev and still defend it, i would bet if people came together and started unsubbing from their patreon/subscribestar/ or whatever they have then an update would magically come a few weeks later.
 

Ibadez38

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its amazing to me that even after so long with no updates on this game there are still people that can't see this has turned into a money grab from the dev and still defend it, i would bet if people came together and started unsubbing from their patreon/subscribestar/ or whatever they have then an update would magically come a few weeks later.
It’s practically certain that this would happen, but people are foolish.
 

slothen29

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I think its kind of eyebrow-raising that essentially 4 years since the last update, the dev indicated he was "starting to look" for artists to do some commission work. I cannot imagine that will be an easy or fast process, and the fact that it hasn't begun is pretty telling that whatever the dev has been working on, its nowhere close to a state of completion. I would take it as hard confirmation that there won't be any update in 2024.
 

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Is the prologue really that long? Are sure? It has been a while since I had played it.

And the quality of prologue was superb, nothing to say about it.
The major problem is that the dev is TROLLING himself.

If he would have said:
Ok boys, did you enjoy the game? Good? Nice! Let's wait 6 years for the next big release. He would have received probably less flame.

The "AHA! Wait, it is going to be ready this year! No next year? No this year, which is the next year of the last year! No wait... Probably is the next year of the next year"

This is why he is losing face.
Put yourself a damn schedule and then respect it, or you'll lose your reputation for it.

Plus, if he has REALLY worked on his game, I suppose he'll have something ready right?
What's the big deal if he had just packed up some hours of gameplay in small updates once in a while and let people see that he was doing something?

Now, the things are 2:
Or he is going like a train, doing what he wants and working on his project how he wants until it is ready.
Or it's scam.

There have been COUNTLESS projects that had the same fate, put on hold forever, hoping for who knows what kind of release that actually never came out or that happened to be extremely lacking and not worth the wait.
The prologue is pretty damn beefy, yes. Comparable to a AAA title, definitely not, but it's certainly not small, and there are indeed multiple finished games on here with less overall content. If Komi had decided to end things there and call the next part a sequel, with a subtitle and all the fixings, I think that would've been not only plausible but probably the wiser decision.

While I believe that Komi is indeed still working on this game, I definitely do not believe him to be a wise man.

I've asked him the same thing, about releasing a partial update. He's adverse to the idea - the specifics are way back in the thread, but IIRC he's not built things modularly and thus if he releases a partial update he'd need to cap half-formed mechanics and he doesn't want to do that. Again, not a fraud, but definitely not wise. Any professionally trained programmer will tell you to always keep things modular to avoid this exact debacle.

There's almost no chance that this update is worth the wait. The most miraculous part of this update's release, if it happens before Komi catches the 'vid and fucking dies because he's an idiot, is going to be that regular content updates might be able to resume.

I'm not arguing against him losing face, but rather the manner in which people are bashing him. There's a lot Komi has done wrong in this project, and it's almost entirely overshadowed by made up ills. It's like if the thing people remembered about Dan Quayle wasn't that he was a moron, but that he pissed on Neil Armstrong's wife. I don't have to like Dan Quayle to know nothing good can come of blaming him for the latter, imaginary wrong, instead of the former, true one.
 

loto_ortega

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I dunno where you guys get this from. I think you're overcomplicating matters and looking for monsters under the bed.

It's really much simpler - dude in a third world country makes a porn game, gets stupid rich, suddenly loses all motivation to work really hard - the end. Epilogue: cucktreons continue to throw money at him for years, further encouraging his behavior.

It's even funnier than the WAL thread, where everyone is complaining about the Orc update taking over 2 years and still not being done. Well gee, did you try not fucking training the devs that they will get paid whether they submit timely work or not?
I was on his Patreon for a while after the final Prologue release, and he at the time was posting long and detailed explanations of the things he was trying to do. Now, I don't keep very close attention to the thread or the discord anymore, so I don't see what he's claiming these days, but I know he at one point wanted to build a launcher for HHG to do updates automatically for the game.

Now, I'm not a programmer, but a lot of what he's talked about doing are things that I haven't seen in any other RenPy game. Heck, Out of Touch switched to Unity in order to try to include a combat system, so I'm not even sure if the things he was claiming back then are even possible.

So, while I won't be giving him money, I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in regards to what he's trying to do. Either he makes good on his claims and we get a banger of an update, or he doesn't, and I haven't lost anything in keeping it in the back of my mind.
 

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I dunno where you guys get this from. I think you're overcomplicating matters and looking for monsters under the bed.

It's really much simpler - dude in a third world country makes a porn game, gets stupid rich, suddenly loses all motivation to work really hard - the end. Epilogue: cucktreons continue to throw money at him for years, further encouraging his behavior.

It's even funnier than the WAL thread, where everyone is complaining about the Orc update taking over 2 years and still not being done. Well gee, did you try not fucking training the devs that they will get paid whether they submit timely work or not?
This pretty much sums it all up. Like I said sometime ago here, dude is making top 1% earnings in his country by doing nothing but post some gifs/pngs every few months to keep the carrot on the stick dangling. He has zero motivation to change this behavior. To live like a king by doing nothing is something most people dream of.
This kind of scam is quite common and effective, sadly (the "Star Citizen scam"). Even worse, it breeds cultish behavior that goes out of their way to defend/justify the scammer.
I'm kinda expecting this message will be deleted just like my last one. For a long time only whiteknights were allowed to post here, after all.
 
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kenny

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but I know he at one point wanted to build a launcher for HHG to do updates automatically for the game.
While not quite a launcher per se, but haramase simulator had a built in updater and witch trainer silver has some sort of update checker that tells you if you are running an outdated version on the main screen, so that's not something outlandish for Renpy.
As for combat, renpy is perfectly fine for turn based combat, FET showed that.
 

loto_ortega

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While not quite a launcher per se, but haramase simulator had a built in updater and witch trainer silver has some sort of update checker that tells you if you are running an outdated version on the main screen, so that's not something outlandish for Renpy.
As for combat, renpy is perfectly fine for turn based combat, FET showed that.
Guess I just haven't seen the extent of what Renpy can be used for then. I thought both were pretty outlandish based on seeing almost exclusively Visual Novels with it.
 

Karnewarrior

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to be fair, both those games ARE visual novels.

But Ren'py is, on a vague level, just a shell for python. It's theoretically possible to do whatever you like with it, although if you don't want to make a VN I'd suspect you would have to fight the engine pretty much the whole way.

Which is probably what Komi is doing. fighting the engine, that is. At this point I suspect it would've been more efficient time-wise to just recode the whole game in fucking Unreal Engine. But I really don't care, I just want him to be done already.
 
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