Unreal Engine Abandoned HoeRizon [v0.0.8] [M.Schneider]

[HoeRizon]

I seriously disagree with that. I don't know what country you're from or whatever, but in many western countries we're very anti-censorship when it comes to porn. We want to see it all in it's most pure, raw form.

I think you are highly underestimating how much censorship really affects the gameplay, especially for a porn game. And hiding the uncensored bits behind a paywall, no matter how small that pay wall is, is extremely off putting. Especially since this isn't a finished game where we pay once and can play it all we want. This is a recurring cost, every month, that must be paid again and again to retain access to the uncensored builds. I personally would much rather play an old build that's inferior to a new build, but is uncensored than play a new build where all the naughty bits are censored. Once again, it's totally up to you, and I respect your decision. But I really think it's a mistake to censor it in any way.

I want to point out that I'm not saying this out of greediness or anything, I'm trying to help you by giving you honest feedback on your business model based on my own previous experience with in-development games, erotic games in particular.

Does anyone here remember Breeding Season? I do. I remember it well. I also remember losing over a hundred bucks to it. I personally think a better business model for you to follow is an early access system for the patrons. Where they receive the newest builds a month or so before non patrons. Instead of censoring it for non patrons and making it almost pointless to play, make the game tantalizing enough to lure people into wanting to pay to get access to the latest builds a month, or however long you think would be best, early.

I don't know about anyone else, but the second I see a paywall restricting FEATURES instead of delayed access, it sends huge red flags up and makes me very weary of supporting the game. Once again, it's your choice. I'm just telling you the effect it's having on my own decision of whether or not to give the game a chance.

Also, slightly unrelated to this, OP needs to change the "censorship: none" to "censorship: yes, unless you're a patron". It's extremely misleading as it is.

Thanks for sharing that. I respect that you only wish all the best and are just looking after lil guys like us. As of now we are releasing new builds for everyone despite if they are our patrons or not. So instead of having a delayed public version you will get the newest one, but with some limited features and after a month or so you will be able to remove those limitations without paying a dime. Therefore i think the outcome is more generous towards non patrons, I agree that uncensored version is important, but if we put that aside people can take a better look at how the game improved over the last version and even test it at the same time without having to wait.

Regarding the "censorship: none", as I mentioned it wasn't my decision to leave it as it is. I don't really mind if it was changed to what you were implying, but I think my thread is not the only one with this issue.

All in all I appreciate that you expressed your concern towards our business plan, but I still would like to believe that this way is more consumer friendly instead of postponing new releases. Cheers

Edit: forgot to mention that if you want you can try our previous 0.0.35 version which is uncensored. Download link is on our patreon overview page.

 

[nowayman69]

Thanks for sharing that. I respect that you only wish all the best and are just looking after lil guys like us. As of now we are releasing new builds for everyone despite if they are our patrons or not. So instead of having a delayed public version you will get the newest one, but with some limited features and after a month or so you will be able to remove those limitations without paying a dime. Therefore i think the outcome is more generous towards non patrons, I agree that uncensored version is important, but if we put that aside people can take a better look at how the game improved over the last version and even test it at the same time without having to wait.

Regarding the "censorship: none", as I mentioned it wasn't my decision to leave it as it is. I don't really mind if it was changed to what you were implying, but I think my thread is not the only one with this issue.

All in all I appreciate that you expressed your concern towards our business plan, but I still would like to believe that this way is more consumer friendly instead of postponing new releases. Cheers

Edit: forgot to mention that if you want you can try our previous 0.0.35 version which is uncensored. Download link is on our patreon overview page.

Ahhh ok, I think I must've misunderstood how you were going about it. Now that I better understand how it's working I agree it's not nearly as bad as I first thought it was. I'm also glad you're not taking my concerns as badly as some devs I've talked to in the past. They would get extremely defensive and downright mean so I really appreciate that. You might want to consider talking to the OP about maybe making an edit to their post to better clarify how you're going about the patreon thing and releases of the builds. Because a bunch of different posts explaining little bits and pieces about how it's being distributed and features restricted/not restricted can result in confusion, case and point my own confusion. And I also disagree with the OP in that regard. Simply leaving it as "none" without any sort of explanation as to why the pictures or the newest non patron build is censored is not an "unnecessary change" IMHO. A lot of people are going to find the game through this thread and might be pushed away like I almost was unless things are explained right there in the OP. First impressions are extremely important after all and most people won't bother reading through the rest of the thread if what they see on the first page unsettles them.

Nonetheless now that I understand better about how you're going about things i'm gonna give the game a shot. I'll tell you what I think of it after.

 

[Adirtymexican666]

Thoughts v0.0.4
i played this for a a little while. i should have waiting until it was a bit more polished/content added.
one thing i really want is a island map. since the area seems fairly big it would be a nice addition.
beyond that i'm definitely interested in seeing where this goes. games that are in 3rd/1st person and have adult content are rare. keep up the amazing work!

issues and stuff
face settings height is spelled wrong

skill descriptions are not in english

not sure how i triggered the glitch but the only thing that would work is movement and interact (F)

 

[hulaneo]

This game have cheats or some kind of training??

 

[HoeRizon]

Thoughts v0.0.4
i played this for a a little while. i should have waiting until it was a bit more polished/content added.
one thing i really want is a island map. since the area seems fairly big it would be a nice addition.
beyond that i'm definitely interested in seeing where this goes. games that are in 3rd/1st person and have adult content are rare. keep up the amazing work!

issues and stuff
face settings height is spelled wrong

skill descriptions are not in english

not sure how i triggered the glitch but the only thing that would work is movement and interact (F)

Thanks for taking a look on our game, 0.0.5 version should be a huge surprise for everyone. I will take a look at the spelling. Skill descriptions are just a placeholder text.
Glitch you mentioned might be that engine only supports English keyboard inputs. I will take a closer look into that problem.

This game have cheats or some kind of training??

Next version will have cheats but only for 10$ tier. You will be able to access that feature for free when 0.0.6 version comes out. As I mentioned before every new update will unlock all previous features to everyone for free. Still need to update OP regarding this matter.

So since our last update we wrote two new Dev Blogs that you can check them out by visiting provided links below.

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We will try to write atleast 1 dev blog per week. So keep an eye on that if you are interested.

 

[nossiob]

this is another of thoses games that start up my VR program and they will force the audio through the VRheadset, EVEN when unpluged

 

[HoeRizon]

this is another of thoses games that start up my VR program and they will force the audio through the VRheadset, EVEN when unpluged

Not sure if you are being serious or not. It's the first time i'm hearing this problem. If it's not a joke I will take a look and fix it before next update.

Edit: did some quick research and it's unreal related problem, strangely enough this wasn't brought up to my attention. Nonetheless, I think i fixed it now, just don't have the right tools to test it myself.

 

[Fanatic4500]

We will try to write atleast 1 dev blog per week. So keep an eye on that if you are interested.

A dev blog per week? I love you.

 

[nossiob]

Not sure if you are being serious or not. It's the first time i'm hearing this problem. If it's not a joke I will take a look and fix it before next update.

Edit: did some quick research and it's unreal related problem, strangely enough this wasn't brought up to my attention. Nonetheless, I think i fixed it now, just don't have the right tools to test it myself.

it might looked like a troll, but i was serious, lately many h-games tend to do that wich annoys me
sorry about that

 

[HoeRizon]

it might looked like a troll, but i was serious, lately many h-games tend to do that wich annoys me
sorry about that

No need to apologize, unfortunately no one mentioned this problem before, but i think next time you won't encounter the same issue. We are planning to release a new build at the end of the month and since only you encountered the mentioned issue I will try to contact you on release if that is acceptable by you. Just want to be sure that it doesn't repeat in future versions. For your time I will give you a small reward.

Currently I'm making a poll regarding fetishes, if anyone has any particular needs please let me know.

 

[nossiob]

No need to apologize, unfortunately no one mentioned this problem before, but i think next time you won't encounter the same issue. We are planning to release a new build at the end of the month and since only you encountered the mentioned issue I will try to contact you on release if that is acceptable by you. Just want to be sure that it doesn't repeat in future versions. For your time I will give you a small reward.

Currently I'm making a poll regarding fetishes, if anyone has any particular needs please let me know.

you dont have to give me anything and sure go ahead and contact me for the next release, i will try it out and will take a look if the issue got solved.
also as a side note, i own the rift and not the vive, since vive uses steam and steamVR and rift uses the oculus software and steamVR at teh same time, so it might not be a issue with vive users, but i cant tell for sure since i dont own a vive^^

 

[HoeRizon]

Just posted a new dev blog. It includes a fetish poll too. So let us know what you want to see in the upcoming build.

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[cooperdk]

No need to censor a game where the human parts look like mannequin dolls.

Except, of course, to make money off something that is 10% from alpha.

 

[macadam]

No need to censor a game where the human parts look like mannequin dolls.

Except, of course, to make money off something that is 10% from alpha.

i agree in some parts.
censoring the game is a very bad way to get peoples imho. its a porn game after all.... and they are nothing more terrible than being interrested to test a porn game but will be hit in the face by an censor thing.
honestly, i think they are others thing that can be "patrons only", instead of a censor.
i myself ( but maybe its just me) , completly turned off when i want to play a porn game and see its censored... its like allowing you to test a Ferrari car without gazoline in it. they are nothing more terrible than that.

unless you plan to expand on japan.

 

[HoeRizon]

i agree in some parts.
censoring the game is a very bad way to get peoples imho. its a porn game after all.... and they are nothing more terrible than being interrested to test a porn game but will be hit in the face by an censor thing.
honestly, i think they are others thing that can be "patrons only", instead of a censor.
i myself ( but maybe its just me) , completly turned off when i want to play a porn game and see its censored... its like allowing you to test a Ferrari car without gazoline in it. they are nothing more terrible than that.

unless you plan to expand on japan.

I understand your concerns, they are pretty reasonable. But it's a common confusion, our plan is that on every new release we will remove the censorship for all previous builds. For example we will release new build tomorrow and you will be able to remove all restrictions from 0.0.4 version. Other developers simply delay the public builds, but we publish them for everyone just with few locked features. Hopefully it's not too confusing, I will make sure to clear things up in the original post when we release our next build.

 

[macadam]

I understand your concerns, they are pretty reasonable. But it's a common confusion, our plan is that on every new release we will remove the censorship for all previous builds. For example we will release new build tomorrow and you will be able to remove all restrictions from 0.0.4 version. Other developers simply delay the public builds, but we publish them for everyone just with few locked features. Hopefully it's not too confusing, I will make sure to clear things up in the original post when we release our next build.

well, i not understand good.. but i guess you know what you doing lol. ( my bad english didnt help too )

 

[HoeRizon]

well, i not understand good.. but i guess you know what you doing lol. ( my bad english didnt help too )

No worries, to put it simply new version comes out - previous will get uncensored. For example I release 0.0.5(censored for non-patreons), then 0.0.4 becomes uncensored. I release 0.0.6(censored) - 0.0.5 becomes uncensored. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

 

[bas]

Updated OP with v0.0.5

 

[HoeRizon]

Updated OP with v0.0.5

Awesome, much appreciated.
Just a heads up guys that most of the in game text is a placeholder so you might find some Latin. Also I'm aware of most of the bugs so if anything breaks restart the game. Overall there are just few bugs and for some reason they only happen once. Probably will release another build at the end of the month with all the fixes and a lot more and improved content. Feel free to share any kind of feedback you have.

 

[PeggyBlackett]

This reminds me of a line in a film called "Zachariah" [written by members of Firesign Theater}:

Goin ' to the border, huh?

Horny, eh?

Well, they got what you're lookin' for, if that's what you're lookin' for.

Well - this game has what you're lookin' for, if that's what you're lookin' for...