Great_Old_One

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So my game has this odd behavior where if I use stuff from mods on a character they disappear a scene later or get replaced by something from vanilla, be it clothes, skin textures, accessories etc. I'm not sure if I always had this issue or if I did something.

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Are you using any tattoos by the modder starstar? Some of those are buggy and produce random missing stuff like you're describing. If that isn't it, the only other thing I can think of is to check the settings of the HS2_BetterHScenes plugin - although that one shouldn't be able to change skin textures.
 

Demokaze

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Are you using any tattoos by the modder starstar? Some of those are buggy and produce random missing stuff like you're describing. If that isn't it, the only other thing I can think of is to check the settings of the HS2_BetterHScenes plugin - although that one shouldn't be able to change skin textures.
I found out when I used a suntan which is ported (if I recall correctly) from a previous Illusion game and after some H scenes it was replaced by a vanilla suntan. Then I used the dress from the picture I posted and it disappeared the same way. I thought it was these mods in particular but it's everything that's not native to this game that has this behavior.

Well, I say "after some H scenes" but I think it has to do with the status changes of the girls because it happened right after I maxed dependency on a girl earlier or when another one got aversion status. I've also given clothes from mods to Fur and Sitri and they've persisted on them, presumably because they're not affected by the status mechanics.
 

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i am not sure if there is enough info and documentation but there are some videos for all VNGE tools on Keitaro's mega. i only tried the "clip manager" briefly and i am still trying to understand the rest of vnge. as far as i know you can save the animation and embed it to the scene data but you can also you can save it externally on a separate file then load it again for another character. i did not perform this so please experiment with it.

about the studio items, i haven't seen a blanket item precisely, i am sorry. but i think what you are doing with material editor is the best choice for the time being. it would seem that there are endless items for the studio but the truth is that studio items and props are never enough, the modders are adding to them everyday but it really depends on what you are working on and what is your interest, it is hard to always find what you are looking for but it is better to work with what you have =).


oh i see, at least you managed to reach middle ground with DHH :LOL:. and yes i agree about the documentation and resources, i think the creator does not speak english or they are just not interested in documenting their tools, and i don't blame them as they are probably busy with real life jobs/responsibilities and have made those tools on their spare time just to contribute.

i also agree that lighting changes everything when it comes to tones and final look, but it requires allot of work tweaking and possibilities are endless. people should always share their light settings with characters and studio scenes if available to be able to get the best results.


it could be that some other tattoo is conflicting with what you are using, the sideloader will select a random mod to load if that was the case. check the log if it mentions any warning or errors regarding a tattoo mod or else then try to disable it in kkmanager.


what repack version are you using? this could happen if it is too old and tried to used mods that require an updated core mods. it should be fixed if you use the latest hs2 dx repack.


like alex2011 mentioned, it is an offset issue. but it also can be due to partial face edits made with bone mod as well. you can try fix this with bone mod while in scene but please know that it wont save your edits unless you take note of it with a screenshot or else then reapply it in the chara creator then save. first set a key shortcut for the bone mod via (F1) plugin settings, then open the bone mod plugin menu and search for "mouth" on the top left, then look for a bone called "cf_j_MouthBase_tr" (it controls the mouth transformation along with every thing in it like tongue and teeth), then change its offset or size if needed. you can also edit any other body part this way as well.


not all uncensored bodies has a dynamic vagina, while in the chara creator got o body>overall>then change the uncnsor to "bp.sac_roastie" or "bp.sac_innie" then save that character. also don't forget to disable the mod using random uncensore from (F1)>plugin settings>"uncensore selector".


it must be a light setting, if you are using DHH or graphics mod try changing the light direction or disable other extra light sources that maybe creating a rim highlight of objects. also, glossiness of things may help creating such highlights.


the penetration settings are kind of relative to many things like character's and their heights/body size and offset modifications, uncensors for both male and female. this could be why nobody has answered your question. i am afraid experimenting with the better penetration setting on your own is the only way to get better results.:( just keep in minds that character cards downloaded from the internet may have body modifications with bone mod or else, a single penetration setting cant work on all chars. create your own body modifications for you characters and keep it realistic (within range) and use it as a standard for other characters.


i am not aware of any easy way to do this other than doing it manually, like going back and forth, take screenshots of settings and all ^^'. also keep in mind that some characters maybe using a different face type, face bones modifications and some times material edits, make sure that you take note of them as well. but generally speaking it is too tough to just copy one part of a character to another and it is a time consuming process rather than loading the whole face along with its bone mods. but i encourage you to do it as it will help you understand how everything work and will alow you to achieve what you want faster in the future :).


welcome to F95 :).

i'm happy to see somebody is actually trying the projectors cool feature :LOL:, and since you are willing to change the texture of a projector i think you meant to do so via the "rerender" plugin (mentioning the "example text"). i don't think you will be able to change the projector's texture with material editor anyway as it doesn't show the texture properties for them.

i am going to explain what are projectors and how to edit them:

projectors are materials that you can project over objects using a special shader, it is similar to overlay textures and they can apply to anything they interact with.

for a demonstration, first go to add>item>models>general and load a couple of simple objects like a cube and a sphere then place them in front of each other, then go to add>item>2d effects>scene effects> and load the first joan's projector (they should start with "[j694]") then arrange everything to something similar to this:
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this should help you get a better idea of what they are. but as you can see, the projector's texture is using a dummy as an example and we are going to change it using the "rerender" plugin.

so in general, "rerender" is plugin similar to "material editor" that allows you to change object materials and settings, open it by selecting an object from work space then (contorl+R).

next select the projector from the work space and when the plugin menu is up, first turn on the "include shaders" checkbox, then click on the object part you wish to edit on the "target" sub menu to the right then click it's instance name on the "materials" sub menu.
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now you will be able to view all that object materials if you scroll down through, now to be able to change any texture using rerender in general you will have to click on that texture thumb to open the "texture selector" side menu then select a texture you desire from the scroll down list, but first you have to put all textures you wish to use in a specific folder (gamefolder\BepInEx\plugins\RendererEditor\Textures), then it will appear in the texture list.
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when you successfully replace the texture that you added to that folder, the projector will now project that image instead.
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and you are done. rerender will also allow you to edit both the texture image's properties and how they will appear, you can access those setting by clicking on the "properties" button under a texture on the "texture selector". you can also change the projectors's and texture's offset properties from the plugin menu.
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but there is more to it, not all projector items are the same, each one uses a different shader for render and blending. if you hover over joan's projector items on list you will notice that the name is followed by a type name. ex. "[j694]projector multiply (map)" means that this projector has a "multiply" projection blend type and it only effects maps and studio items.
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there are four main types and three targets (all, chara alone, map alone). the four blending types are:

  • Blend: classic alpha blend, the projected texture replaces gradually the texture below according to its alpha channel.
  • Add: the projected color is added to the color below (making things very bright).
  • Multiply: the best one in my opinion, the projected color multiplies the color below.
  • Sub: the projected color is subtracted from the color below.
depending on how do you want things to be done select the one more suitable for the job, and don't forget to load the correct projector type before you do any edits as you cant change that afterwards.

i hope that was useful and please use the HS2 studio and chara help thread if the question is about studio, chara making and related plugins in the future, it helps reader to find answers for similar problems more easily.

more info about joan's projector items can be found here:





what kind of animation does it contain? if it is a studio animation item it should be playing by it self unless the "speed" in the animation menu is set to (0). but if this is a VNGE animation then you first have to get the plugin installed (available in "[optional] mods" in game folder) then open it while in studio. vnge has many tools and the animation can be a "scenesavestate" (SSS) animation, the clip manager is another tool for custom animation which can contain animation data as well. refer to where did you get that scene and check the info about the animation mentioned.


i think what he meant is to "look as good as" not in terms of working or not :). if this is the same with the next gen shader and i remember correctly the promotion of that skin utilizes some material lighting of the shader that graphics mod allows you to modify like how the light effect translusency, shade blure and such.
I install DX R2 as base then update it using R2 to R3 update.exe and then R3 to R3.1 update.exe
 

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My next characters

PS: Character made using DHH Preset 4, you should use it or something similar to appreciate the characters properly.

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the funny thing is that the default uncensor does not show a vagina at all to me :LOL:, also knowing that some skins interfere with this feature seems strange to me, as skins does not add bones/blend shapes to the body mesh but body types and uncensors does. i didn't test the dynamic vagina in game but here is a scene with a character using the "bp.sac_roastie" uncensor which has the dynamic bones (no other uncensor supports the feature), i attached a dynamic bone collider item to the lower abdomen part of the body to demonstrate the interaction (doesn't have to be attached at all) ,it should work the same in the H-scene in main game if the male chara has a similar collider on it's parts or uncensor.
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if you open the attached scene below in studio, select the dynamic bone collider and move it close to the vagina to see the effect it does. try it with other characters and different skins to confirm that the skins you mentioned are preventing it or not.
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could you please make a tutorial for this?.. I can't seem to get better penetration to work :(
 

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Is there any way to pause during the ♥scene in the game? (just like there's a play/pause in the character editor)
 

Organtoxic

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The sideloader modpack is studio only, it does not affect the game side. If you downloaded by any means other than the torrent, you likely only have the modpack and need to download the game itself, as Noxilum said.


Yes, it has some other stuff as well through the DX version, but the control method is the same in both HS1 and HS2.
Thanks man, Do you know any game like this but more sandbox, open world or gameplay oriented?
 

GabeyPooh

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Does this version have all the updated mods? Like the new version of bepinex? I had an older version I guess and I tried to use "better penetration" and nothing was updated so it broke.

Is there like an auto updater/patch that will update all my existed mods?
 

Aklenn

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like alex2011 mentioned, it is an offset issue. but it also can be due to partial face edits made with bone mod as well. you can try fix this with bone mod while in scene but please know that it wont save your edits unless you take note of it with a screenshot or else then reapply it in the chara creator then save. first set a key shortcut for the bone mod via (F1) plugin settings, then open the bone mod plugin menu and search for "mouth" on the top left, then look for a bone called "cf_j_MouthBase_tr" (it controls the mouth transformation along with every thing in it like tongue and teeth), then change its offset or size if needed. you can also edit any other body part this way as well.
Turns out it was a "head position" setting. (I'm guessing the creator wanted to make her very thin neck look more normal by shortening it). The girl already had pretty normal adult human proportions and was even on the tall side, but alex2011's advice put me on the right track. Head position back to default, bump up the neck width & thickness a bit so she doesn't look too giraffe-ey, and all fixed! My experience so far with bonemod has been... mixed, so I'm glad I didn't have to get into that to fix this issue.
 

ReptilePrince

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Hello I have some problem with the mod in the picture I try to load this card but its not appear. First I guest it missing but it have all *.zipmod file in the Sideloader Modpack (in Folder name LSZC). so I do something wrong?

thank in advance
one more its about the console its said some like this
 

soso07

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Hello I have some problem with the mod in the picture I try to load this card but its not appear. First I guest it missing but it have all *.zipmod file in the Sideloader Modpack (in Folder name LSZC). so I do something wrong?

thank in advance
one more its about the console its said some like this
my guess is you need outfit too i mean coordinate card
 

GarenBrand

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Is there an option to play with the Oculus Quest? When im in Game the Joysticks dont work but all other buttons are working fine. Because of that i cant scroll and start the action scene.
 

alex2011

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Thanks man, Do you know any game like this but more sandbox, open world or gameplay oriented?
Nope, this is a one of a kind game for now, at least on the porn side of the industry.

Does this version have all the updated mods? Like the new version of bepinex? I had an older version I guess and I tried to use "better penetration" and nothing was updated so it broke.

Is there like an auto updater/patch that will update all my existed mods?
Your game is likely too old, you'll have to download a newer version completely.

Turns out it was a "head position" setting. (I'm guessing the creator wanted to make her very thin neck look more normal by shortening it). The girl already had pretty normal adult human proportions and was even on the tall side, but alex2011's advice put me on the right track. Head position back to default, bump up the neck width & thickness a bit so she doesn't look too giraffe-ey, and all fixed! My experience so far with bonemod has been... mixed, so I'm glad I didn't have to get into that to fix this issue.
Glad to be of assistance when I can be.

Hello I have some problem with the mod in the picture I try to load this card but its not appear. First I guest it missing but it have all *.zipmod file in the Sideloader Modpack (in Folder name LSZC). so I do something wrong?

thank in advance
one more its about the console its said some like this
The sideloader modpack does not affect the main game and this looks like you're in the character creator, which is part of the main game. The zipmods that affect character creation were installed already before applying the sideloader modpack. You may be using an out of date zipmod, which you can attempt to fix by using the download option in initsetting.
 

Great_Old_One

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Hello I have some problem with the mod in the picture I try to load this card but its not appear. First I guest it missing but it have all *.zipmod file in the Sideloader Modpack (in Folder name LSZC). so I do something wrong?

thank in advance
one more its about the console its said some like this
I DL'd the card you posted - on my system it looks identical to your pictures. I hunted down 3 key mods this thing uses - ls.Acc.fht, ls.cloth.fht and ls.hair.fht. If you search "fht" in tops, hair and acc you'll see the mods it's supposed to use, but if you try those mods on another character they don't do anything.

So the issue is this card relies on 3 mods that are already in the modpack, but all 3 appear to be broken. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else can get the fht top, hair or accessory to work on any character, but for now at least I disabled ls.Acc.fht, ls.cloth.fht and ls.hair.fht in KKManager.
 

Great_Old_One

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I found out when I used a suntan which is ported (if I recall correctly) from a previous Illusion game and after some H scenes it was replaced by a vanilla suntan. Then I used the dress from the picture I posted and it disappeared the same way. I thought it was these mods in particular but it's everything that's not native to this game that has this behavior.
This one is a bit of a reach, but ordinarily HS2 requires AI-Syoujyo to be installed for AI stuff to work in HS2. The BetterRepack/HF-patch distributions get around this using a script called AYAYA_v2.cs (in \scripts) that makes HS2 think AI is installed. Where your problems stem from non HS2 specific items, maybe your script is somehow corrupt, or perhaps you still have the older version (it was originally AYAYA.cs) along with the new one. Your \scripts directory should only have AYAYA_v2.cs and a file named scriptignores - specifically it should NOT have AYAYA.cs.
 

Organtoxic

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Nope, this is a one of a kind game for now, at least on the porn side of the industry.


Your game is likely too old, you'll have to download a newer version completely.


Glad to be of assistance when I can be.


The sideloader modpack does not affect the main game and this looks like you're in the character creator, which is part of the main game. The zipmods that affect character creation were installed already before applying the sideloader modpack. You may be using an out of date zipmod, which you can attempt to fix by using the download option in initsetting.
ye seems so, the best I could find was a RPG type management game called Wicked Rouge
 
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