Ren'Py Horton Bay Stories - Jake [v0.4.3.3] [Lumphorn Games]

[Sterkh90]

On the other hand, looking at these faces, MC should be grateful that these women are being fucked by other guys. There is nothing shameful to be a cuckold when such "beauties" surround you.

 

[DarkSithLord47]

heres a thought,if devs were not subjected to all this fetish bashing and just allowed to make the game they want less would fail.every time those three little words appear people froth at the mouth and have to let everyone else know.its about time we all grow up and let devs get on with making the game they want and stop whinning about fetishes we dont like.
best of luck going forward dev

Here's a thought :how about next time you decide to be a white knight you learn to read properly what others have said,i only said that is fucking impossible for a dev to joggle between 2 major tags NTR and Harem/Romance and eventually the game ends up abandoned like all others,its a fact im not just bashing on the game cause it has the NTR tag.Time will tell but by the looks of how he started he lost most of the Non-NTR fans.Or maybe im wrong and this game will turn out to be the next big sensation on this site

 

[opfela]

Hmm trying to please 2 sides when its obvious this game was created to be a NTR lovers paradise,where have i seen this before? Dont wanna sound like a dick but i'll give this one 2-3 more updates before it gets abandoned.I havent seen a single developer who knows how to write,balance and equaly produce content for both sides. Its not gonna end well.

heres a thought,if devs were not subjected to all this fetish bashing and just allowed to make the game they want less would fail.every time those three little words appear people froth at the mouth and have to let everyone else know.its about time we all grow up and let devs get on with making the game they want and stop whinning about fetishes we dont like.
best of luck going forward dev

Here's a thought :how about next time you decide to be a white knight you learn to read properly what others have said,i only said that is fucking impossible for a dev to joggle between 2 major tags NTR and Harem/Romance and eventually the game ends up abandoned like all others,its a fact im not just bashing on the game cause it has the NTR tag.Time will tell but by the looks of how he started he lost most of the Non-NTR fans.Or maybe im wrong and this game will turn out to be the next big sensation on this site

Here is a thought DarkSithLord47, if you want others to not think you are bashing on a specific game, do not predict its early end in your statement. Especially in written form, we can not read your mind.
Plus adding a sarcastig statement (that is how I interpet your smiley there) to your second response at the end, is not helping your case, imo.

Also, I agree with Ginji. A lot of games get abandoned because Devs get overwhelmed with negativ input, especially with games that have fetishes for a minority (NTR, urination, etc.). I sometimes think about checking "furry" threads, if they have the same problem as NTR, but I just cant be bothered with that fetish, and just ignore games with this TAG.
So I find it fascinating, that a lot of people come to games that have NTR, but then get offended if they even so much as see one girl having sex with someone else besides the MC/themselves.

Thank you for actually elaborating
"straight up looks like a crack whore." - In fairness, you're at least half right. She is a whore.

I'll pay closer attention to makeup and posing for future scenes and see how it goes. One thing I won't do is change the models themselves.

For me it is the scrunched up faces some of the girls make. Especially the creased forehead, it is not game breaking, just something to be improved upon, imo.

The pictures on Gemmas desk are a good example, for example this one:

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[Taka@LumphornGames]

For me it is the scrunched up faces some of the girls make. Especially the creased forehead, it is not game breaking, just something to be improved upon, imo.

The pictures on Gemmas desk are a good example, for example this one:

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Okay, I see what you mean here. Thanks for pointing it out

 

[DarkSithLord47]

A lot of games get abandoned because Devs get overwhelmed with negativ input

Thats the thing,a lot of the new devs dont make it cause they dont have thick skin and/or dont know how to take the criticism be it constructive or not and make their games better,i mean seriously what do you expect ,for everyone to post : ''good game''.''thanks for the game'' etc? is that better in your opinion? for a new game to be succesfull it needs to deliver on all aspects (story/gameplay/choices/visual) and lets be honest if you're not a NTR lover this game lands flat on its ass with this first relese.Why do you think its diferent from the other ones that got abandoned and its gonna have a diferent fate?And with this im done with this thread,the game's not for me and i already wasted enough time here.

 

[Look-see]

i was gonna download the game to see what the intro was supposed to do for the MC but i reached my quota on mega. and the other sites are giving 4+ hour downloads so i'll just leave it alone.

but yeah what mindset was it supposed to give the MC?
the one where he cant trust women or anyone in general?
the one where he's broken and needs new friends to help him up?
an excuse to set up how his life was prior to us taking over the pilot seat and why he has to start anew?

genuinely curious cause once again...too long to download

 

[opfela]

i was gonna download the game to see what the intro was supposed to do for the MC but i reached my quota on mega. and the other sites are giving 4+ hour downloads so i'll just leave it alone.

but yeah what mindset was it supposed to give the MC?
the one where he cant trust women or anyone in general?
the one where he's broken and needs new friends to help him up?
an excuse to set up how his life was prior to us taking over the pilot seat and why he has to start anew?

genuinely curious cause once again...too long to download

Mostly that, "an excuse to set up how his life was prior to us taking over the pilot seat and why he has to start anew?"
At least after the first episode and the route I played.

 

[Look-see]

Mostly that, "an excuse to set up how his life was prior to us taking over the pilot seat and why he has to start anew?"
At least after the first episode and the route I played.

so basically if the intro were to be changed to GF and best friend got ran over by a car. it wouldnt change much?

or hell if the GF's model was hot she coulda said something like she needs to go overseas for family reasons and MC cant go with for whatver reason. and in the end its basically reduced to "they drifted apart"

idk im just wondering if the intro HAS to be an NTR intro if so many ppl got a problem with it. but eh whatver happens happens.

 

[binglebangles]

Ok, played through it, and not bad all things considered. MC has a gut-wrenching experience at the start, moves in with a bunch of 5s, who are at least friends with some 8s. I never got the impression that the MC saw any of the ladies as love interests. MC seemed more non-nonchalant, like, he's not going to go out of his way for any of them, or put himself out in any way, but he won't kick them out of bed or say 'no' if the opportunity knocks. He's the outsider coming into their lives that have already been established.

I do avoid NTR games in most cases, but I have to say, this one hits a bit different. The MC doesn't love these ladies, and quite frankly, there's not much to love about them, so he's getting in there and doing the dirty as it pleases him. I ran his morality into the fucking ground lol.

The facial expressions are way, way overdone. Less is more. In many scenes, they're literally flexing every single muscle on their face and forehead. They've all been around and seen some shit so there really was no scenario where they should be reacting like the MC just took a shit in their pillow case.

There's some redeeming qualities here, and like I said, its not the typical NTR, because I honestly don't think the MC gives much of a shit, is a hypocrite, and a whore himself.

Best I can do is... keep an eye on development. Good luck to ya'll. And again, wish those facial expressions were dialed back from 11 to maybe a 2.

 

[Taka@LumphornGames]

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[clowns234]

to be fair

1. the MC is an idiot (he starts the game with an intelligence rating of zero), even in the prologue he doesn't make a little porn movie to blackmail the teacher, only taking a photo after he is spotted.
2. only a complete dick responds to the rape of a friend by taking out his phone to film it,
3. remember in that scene he is also drunk, so thinking laterally isn't so easy
4. it's fundamentally an NTR game, so no matter how sandbox it is, some stuff has to happen for it to exist, there needs to be some artistic license to the decisions available,

And I'm speaking as someone who wants all the options in a sandbox, you just have to accept that all the options means an impossible amount of work to accommodate all these extra branches

Overall, I liked this game. By now, MC's with low intelligence is somewhat expected for these types of games. I just think there is always room for improvement moving forward.
For me, I think it would have been better (from a game standpoint) had there been a link between the choice made in the bathroom and how quickly he comes to the aid of his friend. (His personal lust comes with a cost to his friend). BTW, I never expected him to use his camera in the alley - although now that I think about it, it would have went a long way to getting the rapist off the street.

 

[Taka@LumphornGames]

Overall, I liked this game. By now, MC's with low intelligence is somewhat expected for these types of games. I just think there is always room for improvement moving forward.
For me, I think it would have been better (from a game standpoint) had there been a link between the choice made in the bathroom and how quickly he comes to the aid of his friend. (His personal lust comes with a cost to his friend). BTW, I never expected him to use his camera in the alley - although now that I think about it, it would have went a long way to getting the rapist off the street.

Thank you.
I've already given an option to get to Claire quicker after the pub. It'll be in the next update. Though I like your thinking

 

[Stil996]

Thats the thing,a lot of the new devs dont make it cause they dont have thick skin and/or dont know how to take the criticism be it constructive or not

Criticism that isn't constructive is called abuse, and I'm not sure anyone really knows how to take that well and nobody should be expected to.
DarkSithLord47, does make valid point, there is a massive amount of work in front of the Devs to finish this project if they maintain the current standard and thats only if they abandon the Non-NTR option, IMO completing it with the Non-NTR option intact seems like an insurmountable task, the NTR haters are a very hard group to please (note, I didn't say "Non-NTR lovers"), there is a consistent trend of hate filled comments coming from that direction that can quickly suck the will to continue out of even the thickest skinned individual.

To the DEVs
I have difficulty understanding how you might maintain any kind of superficial Non-NTR route much less pleasing the haters.
Try to remember you will never be able to please everyone, so try not to burn yourself out attempting to do so. You've made a very good start on a game that seems to be consistant with real life if love potions existed, in that world NTR is inevitable, it's not like the gangsters would say, "We have the power to fuck anyone we choose, but the world revolves around that random nobody over there, so we better not shag anyone he is interested in."

Good luck regardless, looking forward seeing what comes next.

 

[Virgile85]

Two questions??
What is the promo video???
Does mc leave cuz gf cheat with best mate??
I haven't played yet.so I appreciate answers

 

[Look-see]

Does mc leave cuz gf cheat with best mate??

yup.

 

[Thedude2181]

Anybody know where all the spy cam locations are? I've gotten 7/11 and not sure where the other 4 are

edit: Nvm I see that the pc has an explanation of locations

 

[clowns234]

DarkSithLord47, does make valid point, there is a massive amount of work in front of the Devs to finish this project if they maintain the current standard and thats only if they abandon the Non-NTR option, IMO completing it with the Non-NTR option intact seems like an insurmountable task, the NTR haters are a very hard group to please (note, I didn't say "Non-NTR lovers"), there is a consistent trend of hate filled comments coming from that direction that can quickly suck the will to continue out of even the thickest skinned individual.

The options should be about whether you want the MC to be a hero or not. Trying to appease too many people (the no-NTR people) is a losing battle.
But I have come to understand the politics surrounding these games. Most people want their harem games to be 'heartbreak' free - where all the women are beautiful and can't get enough of the MC's dick.
My advice to the dev... Know your audience. You're never going to please the others.

 

[Stil996]

... Know your audience....

I got to disagree, an audience is by it's nature impossible to know, the closest you can get is to go the formulaic/cookie cutter route, which tends to towards boring lowest common denominator trash, the best projects are unique, direct from the heart, by all means listen to your audience for insight into how your work is being interpreted, but stick to your own vision, you shouldn't need to pander to specific stereotypes, quality will find it's own audience.

My 2 cents anyway. (though based on how much I've written in this thread it is more like a buck 40 by now lol)

 

[clowns234]

I got to disagree, an audience is by it's nature impossible to know, the closest you can get is to go the formulaic/cookie cutter route, which tends to towards boring lowest common denominator trash, the best projects are unique, direct from the heart, by all means listen to your audience for insight into how your work is being interpreted, but stick to your own vision, you shouldn't need to pander to specific stereotypes, quality will find it's own audience.

My 2 cents anyway. (though based on how much I've written in this thread it is more like a buck 40 by now lol)

The NTR tag will attract a certain group and will offend a certain group (whether it's avoidable or not). That is the audience I was referring to. I feel it is a waste of time and resources and can prove limiting as a storyteller to try to please both. Tell the story you want to tell and those who want to follow will follow.
Also, just my opinion.

 

[Weasel_Face]

What a surprise, by the facepalms I received the NTR muppets have come out to play... Dummies, when stealing somebody else's gf it's the good type of NTR not the bad...