VN Ren'Py Abandoned Hot Sand of Antarctica [v0.09] [Grinvald]

[punisher2099]

That's not how it works homie. If there is only MC scenes, no NTR set up, and no cheating, it wouldn't be tagged NTR. If it had NTR tagged, it would be clearly a case of wrong tagging. If a game does have an NTR tag, and we end up with romantic sex with the husband and wife (which happens all the time), no one is complaining that they got blindsided by romance because one tag being in a game doesn't prevent another, something you have a hard time understanding. You don't see femdom lovers complaining that there was a situation where a male didn't get dominated. You don't see male dom lovers complain that we couldn't dominate every single female LI. You don't see incest lovers complaining about non family members. The list goes on. Why is it that "muh harem" kids are the only ones that think their tag somehow needs to be written exactly the way they want and take precedence over any other scenario? "Games with harem tag means all females need to fall to MC's cock only." By what logic lol?

You are probably making a poor argument that you were mislead into suffering emotional distress at seeing 3D pixels banging something other than your self insert MC in a harem game. Poor you. Petition F95zone to expand tags so we get "non-MC sex" tag to protect fragile players. Don't try to commandeer the NTR tag because believe it or not, some people actually search for the NTR tag to find actual NTR games.

Eh I've seen that underlined part a few times actually.

 

[sdna1]

Can I smash a raider girl's head against a rock and then cum/piss down her throat (with her consent) in this game?

it is not desert stalker (most of opposite of that game) (my guess, cause it is in palned tags.....dont expect much maledom or BDSM game system will not alove it without score punishment)

 

[UncleFredo]

idk, i just remember that mc told that cartriges are not easy to get ...that is why he did not shoot them all (from safe discance, but let hawk get one by knife) and he have only last one (wich was used by another girl at ambush) so he is empty now and without rifle he doesnt so tought (what we saw at ambush)

Cartridges are hard for the MC to get. He depends on Mongo, who has told the MC that they are scarce, to get them. Ava has told the MC that Mongo has large stores of cartridges but is unwilling to provide them the MC because he doesn't trust the MC not to go rogue. She further tells the MC that she has personally handled a large number of rifles.
So at this point we don't know the truth. Anyone and everyone could be lying to the MC. We'll find out as the story unfolds.

But my point is that cartridges are only expensive if there is a large demand for a small supply. If rifles are as rare as the MC's experience suggests, there's no large demand for cartridges and cartridges, even if hard to find, would be cheap.

 

[sdna1]

Cartridges are hard for the MC to get. He depends on Mongo, who has told the MC that they are scarce, to get them. Ava has told the MC that Mongo has large stores of cartridges but is unwilling to provide them the MC because he doesn't trust the MC not to go rogue. She further tells the MC that she has personally handled a large number of rifles.
So at this point we don't know the truth. Anyone and everyone could be lying to the MC. We'll find out as the story unfolds.

But my point is that cartridges are only expensive if there is a large demand for a small supply. If rifles are as rare as the MC's experience suggests, there's no large demand for cartridges and cartridges, even if hard to find, would be cheap.

idk it looks like MC is dumbest dumb that everyone have full clips and he have two bullets all life....not even surprised to ppl shoot in the air from rifles on new year....or all his sector is in big conspiracy agains him
what sector, even his enemies is not firing on him to not reveal that there are milions of cartriges around world

still from what i know from ppl who are regular on fire range....it is not so problematic to make your own cartriges at home.... idk if rifle cartrige include...

by reloading cartridges...

by thinking about this more....rifles should not be such rare...there are probably more rifles on earth than persons to using them..... all gouverment (before apocalypse) should have bilions of them stored.... and not only them but other guns to... with ammo....

and when it is that rare than that ppl dont need rifle cartriges, why is it so hard for MC to find them than?

reedited:

ok he is probably realy dumb...i replayed again and he spoken so proudly about defence and everybody know about hundred of flamethrovers, but vhen ava told him that she dont see hundreads of flamethrovers he just shut up....probably realized for first time....

fuck, even using flamethrower from 20M wall is realy ridiculouse defence.... they would be shooted from wall by normal gun by distance when flamethrower cant shoot to hundread of meters like fire gun...

 

[JC07]

Face sincerely have people who want by end of the force create some justifications for things where there is no justification. I'm not saying that's the case here. But there are people who get annoyed by NTR people in a "pure" harem game (which seems to me to be the case with this game) and want to end of force justify that is to have NTR/sharing/swing in these games. Arguing that having a harem tag can not prevent other tags like the other mentioned is pure ignorance, just as it is ignorance to say the opposite, it all depends on a point of view and how it is applied in history.

Like, I play several games that have avoidable NTR both in harem games and solo routes, it doesn't bother me at all, I believe and advocate that the problem lies in not allowing the player to choose whether to follow that path or not. If the DEV does not allow the player to choose then yes, games with these tags kind of cancel each other out, example, if a "pure" NTR game (game totally turned to this tag) does not allow the MC's girl to cheat on him, where the player wants her to cheat, but she is not given a choice, is this game NTR? I don't believe so. So I guess the same case is for harem games, if the DEV doesn't let us choose if we want our girls to have something with other guys, that game is not harem at all, it's more of a polyamorous relationship, fuckfest ... I believe that harem is when a man has several girls or a girl has several men (the so-called reverse harem) and among these "harem". the girls/men are not cheating on their "sultan".

And believe me, if a tag is completely avoidable it may very well co-exist with its opposite, like the case of harem and NTR, femdom/maledom.... and so on, then the wisest choice for any DEV is to make all sex scenes "optional", of course, some things are essential to tell a story, save these cases the ideal is to make everything optional, it will give a bitch of work for DEV make different scenes for the same part of the story, but at least will not limit its possible players. And well if your story needs a sex scene to make your story interesting, then sorry my friends, but your story is weak. As I've read a few times MrFriendly repeats here that the first move he tries to avoid all the girls just to see if the story alone holds up and the sex is just a delicious bonus for us perverts.

 

[hakarlman]

EDIT: Holy shit. This thread is a Harem vs NTR feedback GOLD MINE. If anyone is making a Harem game, they need to read the responses in this thread.

Yeah i just played it but man this is a real shit start to a harem game. First girls you see one might or might not be a LI and the other is but they both have probably been used more times than public transportation.

Don't you want a Harem game to have single women you meet, seduce, then bring into your Harem, or do you want all the girls to already be love interests?

So you want the game to specifically declare that the women are virgins?

What more would you need to alleviate your concerns? Please share more feedback.

This fake harem shit is annoying, I’m not saying every game needs to be a harem because it doesn’t, but stop advertising the harem when you clearly have no clue or intentions on what that supposed to look like.

Can you tell me what you find wrong with the Harem so far? What do you specifically want from a Harem game?

True that man it is like when they do fake incest with the step-sibling.

Can you tell me what you find wrong with the Harem so far? What do you specifically want from a Harem game?

 

[sdna1]

Don't you want a Harem game to have single women you meet, seduce, then bring into your Harem, or do you want all the girls to already be love interests?

So you want the game to specifically declare that the women are virgins?

What more would you need to alleviate your concerns? Please share more feedback.



Can you tell me what you find wrong with the Harem so far? What do you specifically want from a Harem game?



Can you tell me what you find wrong with the Harem so far? What do you specifically want from a Harem game?

well i quess that they think, that they dont need to see or hear about previouse sexual encounters from them.... like u dont want to know/watch in details how or who your wife/gf loose her virginity or how much gangbangs she had before u....

personaly i dont think that if game have harem tag it is wise to see your harem love interest to be shown like whores or any other sexual encounters....everyone know that they had it...that they r not virgins.... but whoo need to see it...cucolds???

 

[Look-see]

I really wish nearly every thread that has a male protagonist wouln't turn into a repetitive rant about NTR. Like, I'd rather discuss how they all get so clean without soap and water? or like why didn't they find the largest solid landmass like a mountain and dig underground?

Like if you dig deep enough you could get a geothermal system setup for cooling, and with cooling you'd get a temperature differential for water recycling and production. You'd never have to deal with having your dick covered in sand after fucking a chick in a giant world-sized desert, both because you would have water to clean off your dick, and 'cause you'd like be able to be underground when fucking so no sand in the first place.

This like all makes me think of Last Oasis and the amount of sand in uncomfortable places that everyone would have to constantly deal with.

Though to be fair, I actually do like NTR stuff since I don't see it as NTR unless they're your actual partners and not just someone you're using for sex, and if it's not a cuck situation. Like, selling or DPing your partner doesn't register as NTR to me, but being called a cuck and degraded during it would be considered NTR, content which I definitely don't like.

porn game logic. they keep each other clean by licking each other clean, which leads to sex. then the cycle repeats. come on son use your head.

 

[Veniat]

idk, i just remember that mc told that cartriges are not easy to get ...that is why he did not shoot them all (from safe discance, but let hawk get one by knife) and he have only last one (wich was used by another girl at ambush) so he is empty now and without rifle he doesnt so tought (what we saw at ambush)

and mongol is ruling all teritory, i can imagine that ppl is throving this shit to him for some favors...so few thousands in his posession is not that much and still who know how much thousands? 2k,3k? this could still not win war for example if u dont have army of snipers

Bullets aren't that hard to make though, like I could probably make some by hand if I really had to, I'd be more worried about getting gunpowder without wood for potash and charcoal but they could probably get some from stuff just laying around if it wasn't buried.

 

[sdna1]

Bullets aren't that hard to make though, like I could probably make some by hand if I really had to, I'd be more worried about getting gunpowder without wood for potash and charcoal but they could probably get some from stuff just laying around if it wasn't buried.

in the national war in USA army was colecting piss from households to made ammoniac....wood from desert can be hard (furniture? )....could by changed to sugar, but no so potent and can be easyly get wet

still this is not modern gunpowder (used back in times)

 

[Veniat]

in the national war in USA army was colecting piss from households to made ammoniac....wood from desert can be hard (furniture? )....could by changed to sugar, but no so potent and can be easyly get wet

still this is not modern gunpowder (used back in times)

It's not that different chemically, just refined a bit better and a couple additions to stabilise it so it doesn't leave as much residue and particulate. Don't really have to worry as much about moisture though when everythings a desert.

 

[sdna1]

It's not that different chemically, just refined a bit better and a couple additions to stabilise it so it doesn't leave as much residue and particulate. Don't really have to worry as much about moisture though when everythings a desert.

well to get gunpowder wet is probably not so big problem in desert

 

[Look-see]

in terms of choices the update was actually pretty nice. it kind of reminds me of "desert stalker".

damn the dev for not giving us a creampie option. i mean i understand why ....but damn him

 

[sdna1]

in terms of choices the update was actually pretty nice. it kind of reminds me of "desert stalker".

damn the dev for not giving us a creampie option. i mean i understand why ....but damn him

i tought so to at the first time but after playing he looks like Zetans soft brother.

 

[Harem Trooper]

Played the current version (0.2) and I liked what I saw. It has good potential to be something nice.
Before I wanted to post my feedback I checked the comments since its just only 9 sites and boy oh boy

To make it short:
The NTR stuff
-If you want to know all about the NTR and sharing stuff, dev made it all avoidable, not just skippable.
Speaking every girl you meet will be only banged by you, the MC, or at least wont have any meaningless sex scenes with some NPC. So if you are a Harem Player its safe.
-If you want NTR or sharing you still have the option. (There is no real NTR in the game. Dev self said he dont like that stuff. Its more of different NPC have some sex with different NPC)
-Renders are nice and also the animations. Game has sound effects which I always like.
-Content is rather short (0.2) but it should give you good gist where the game is going.

For more contexts:
It seemed that the first version had a unavoidable sex scene with your new Partner and a potential LI (Dev. said she was more of a side chick and dont planned more of her content wise. Kinda sad because I liked her. )
In the current version you can avoid it. You tell your partner to hold his horses and he will not touch her. I still hope that dev. plans something with her and MC since we are going out of our way to save her (Of course if you choose to...but come on. Who wouldnt rescue a hot and cute chick in a harem game in a post apocalyptic setting )

The world setting is...kinda strange but not the worst I played so far.
Im not a expert about climate change and how the world could be with this type of lore, but its not necessarily I will have a beef with. I think the dev wanted to create a world where you have a good amount of Sand and rolled with it. I dont mind that as long it gets balanced with something to keep me playing it.
Sure I prefer a realistic, or lets say a believable setting like we saw in Fallout universe, but if the story is good I can ignore some flaws of it. And since its a porn game with a harem setting, I will focus my criticism more of it and right now everything together feels nice.

However, Im on part with what Veniat said. I dont mind (since the Movie Mad Max Fury Road I even like) the "Mad Max" type of world building, but some sex scenes, like that with Ava are kinda silly. That one on the sand naked. Its not bad but I hope some scenes would be created with a more logical appearance. Like when MC is already naked, let her lay on these clothes. (Still her sex scene was hot )

Some clothes or environments are "to clean". Also here, I will ignore this since I know how hard it can be to make everything look "realsitic" as a one guy dev. Perhaps some explanations would solves such "problems" in the game. I mean MC is the right hand of one, if not, the biggest Bosses in the Wastes. He is one of the few people allowed to have not only a wife, but two, and also to have children (both female so expect some old good Wincest with them and MC ). Its not far fetched that for such VIPs your clothes will get washed and fixed pretty often.

About the mistake by the dev. on the "NTR" im on part with JC07 on the #129 post, so no need to explain it further.
But in all, the harem setting is pretty good and im looking forward to see where the game is going.

 

[puppy.love]

wow nice game

 

[michael1984]

interesting game

But so far not alot of things to do

 

[AmerHST]

That's not how it works homie. If there is only MC scenes, no NTR set up, and no cheating, it wouldn't be tagged NTR. If it had NTR tagged, it would be clearly a case of wrong tagging. If a game does have an NTR tag, and we end up with romantic sex with the husband and wife (which happens all the time), no one is complaining that they got blindsided by romance because one tag being in a game doesn't prevent another, something you have a hard time understanding. You don't see femdom lovers complaining that there was a situation where a male didn't get dominated. You don't see male dom lovers complain that we couldn't dominate every single female LI. You don't see incest lovers complaining about non family members. The list goes on. Why is it that "muh harem" kids are the only ones that think their tag somehow needs to be written exactly the way they want and take precedence over any other scenario? "Games with harem tag means all females need to fall to MC's cock only." By what logic lol?

You are probably making a poor argument that you were mislead into suffering emotional distress at seeing 3D pixels banging something other than your self insert MC in a harem game. Poor you. Petition F95zone to expand tags so we get "non-MC sex" tag to protect fragile players. Don't try to commandeer the NTR tag because believe it or not, some people actually search for the NTR tag to find actual NTR games.

That was one horrible argument.

1-NTR tag might start out romantic but then the wife gets stolen away, that's the whole point. In fact NTR lovers get mad if there was no build up and the wife just gets stolen from day one.

2- Femdom games are all about femdom from start to finish, obviously if the MC is just eating dinner then there is no femdom there BUT all sex scenes will be femdom.

3- Maledom lovers will not complain if they had normal sex BUT they will 100% complain if the MC turned submissive and got dominated since it's the exact opposite just like harem and NTR

Last but no least this is called VN = visual NOVEL meaning it's a story and stories moves emotions anger, jealousy, sadness, joy...etc

 

[Allan Trumbull]

BESEV
I think it is better to add "textbox transparency" settings

 

[BESEV]

BESEV
I think it is better to add "textbox transparency" settings

Okay, I heard you.