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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Hunger for Chaos [v0.2] [SuperWriter]

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darth_hiruma

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Torry is definitely a flawed person who jumps in headfirst before thinking. Impulsive and gun-ho, but she honestly means well and I think that's why most people like her

I think you have to judge a person based on intention. At the end of the day, she was just trying to HELP, and when she realized the horrible mistake she had made, she offered her life. So cut poor Torry some slack, eh? Lol
You have to judge me based on intention, not on things I gave you :rolleyes:
 
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Ali ibn Hassan

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I'm not sure I understand.

The MC's dad is dying and some people feel uncomfortable.
MC and cutie Torry are kidnapped by mystery man and Torry goes missing/maybe dead.
Suddenly things get weird and we, the players , are confused.

For my part that's brilliant stuff!

Why rework because of people whining?
 

darth_hiruma

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I'm not sure I understand.

The MC's dad is dying and some people feel uncomfortable.
MC and cutie Torry are kidnapped by mystery man and Torry goes missing/maybe dead.
Suddenly things get weird and we, the players , are confused.

For my part that's brilliant stuff!

Why rework because of people whining?
I wish he rework it because of people whining so I can harass him with that but no.
The reason is the theme is too dark than he intend to and people get wrong impression about it. He always say "No it's nothing like saw. It's more like mystery not torture or gory stuff."
 

Ali ibn Hassan

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Torry is definitely a flawed person who jumps in headfirst before thinking. Impulsive and gun-ho, but she honestly means well and I think that's why most people like her

I think you have to judge a person based on intention. At the end of the day, she was just trying to HELP, and when she realized the horrible mistake she had made, she offered her life. So cut poor Torry some slack, eh? Lol
Slack? Oh no! I'd waste a fortune on Viagra so I could last a couple of decades under Torrys loincloth.

Still am surprised by the upcoming rework.
I liked the new cute Jade as well!
 

Faptime

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Torry is definitely a flawed person who jumps in headfirst before thinking. Impulsive and gun-ho, but she honestly means well and I think that's why most people like her

I think you have to judge a person based on intention. At the end of the day, she was just trying to HELP, and when she realized the horrible mistake she had made, she offered her life. So cut poor Torry some slack, eh? Lol
MrFriendly and SuperWriter this whole conversation has been really interesting because I never saw Torry as anything but someone trying to help. Help herself, yeah, but help MC too. I think people got so focused on MC's trauma, that they forgot that in order to qualify for the trials, Torry had to have trauma of her own.

She's just as damaged as MC, but we just didn't know how yet.

And MC's back was against the wall. Even if there was an option to walk away during the "robbery", where would that have left MC? Exactly where he started with his father in pain. Stealing the drugs was the only way to help his dad.

And even if there was an option to not go for the trials with Torry, where would that have left MC? Worse than where he started because now he was unemployed and can't afford the nurse or the future treatment. Going for the trials was the only way to help his dad.

Turning Torry down at both of these opportunities would have led to a truly bleak game as MC watches helplessly as his father suffered and then died.

I totally understand the desire for the rewrite because HfC is like one of the darker episodes of Black Mirror (White Bear) and if that's not the feeling you were going for, like if you are aiming for a San Junipero type episode, then rewriting it into JaB will make it easier to handle.

I'm eagerly awaiting what it evolves into.
 

MrFriendly

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Torry is definitely a flawed person who jumps in headfirst before thinking. Impulsive and gun-ho, but she honestly means well and I think that's why most people like her

I think you have to judge a person based on intention. At the end of the day, she was just trying to HELP, and when she realized the horrible mistake she had made, she offered her life. So cut poor Torry some slack, eh? Lol
It's "gung-ho", I remember because it's a GI Joe character
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and no. Because at this point I just like driving you crazy. Darth_hiruma and I must unite like Voltron and combine our power!
 

darth_hiruma

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It's "gung-ho", I remember because it's a GI Joe character
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and no. Because at this point I just like driving you crazy. Darth_hiruma and I must unite like Voltron and combine our power!
SuperWriter Tell him about your new kink that I introduced it to you, Vore. :sneaky:
 

Deleted member 1412183

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I'm not sure I understand.

The MC's dad is dying and some people feel uncomfortable.
MC and cutie Torry are kidnapped by mystery man and Torry goes missing/maybe dead.
Suddenly things get weird and we, the players , are confused.

For my part that's brilliant stuff!

Why rework because of people whining?
MrFriendly and SuperWriter this whole conversation has been really interesting because I never saw Torry as anything but someone trying to help. Help herself, yeah, but help MC too. I think people got so focused on MC's trauma, that they forgot that in order to qualify for the trials, Torry had to have trauma of her own.

She's just as damaged as MC, but we just didn't know how yet.

And MC's back was against the wall. Even if there was an option to walk away during the "robbery", where would that have left MC? Exactly where he started with his father in pain. Stealing the drugs was the only way to help his dad.

And even if there was an option to not go for the trials with Torry, where would that have left MC? Worse than where he started because now he was unemployed and can't afford the nurse or the future treatment. Going for the trials was the only way to help his dad.

Turning Torry down at both of these opportunities would have led to a truly bleak game as MC watches helplessly as his father suffered and then died.

I totally understand the desire for the rewrite because HfC is like one of the darker episodes of Black Mirror (White Bear) and if that's not the feeling you were going for, like if you are aiming for a San Junipero type episode, then rewriting it into JaB will make it easier to handle.

I'm eagerly awaiting what it evolves into.
First of all, very well said Faptime (I I'll always giggle a little when I read your name) People were comparing this game to Saw, and even you to Black Mirror when these death trials are a VERY SMALL part of the game. the true story was supposed to start after the death trials so I am keeping the same story line and just give me the death trials for Just Another Bubble.

This is a science fiction mystery, and it always has been. I'm just changing the beginning, honestly. And I think the characters now better suit the story
It's "gung-ho", I remember because it's a GI Joe character
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and no. Because at this point I just like driving you crazy. Darth_hiruma and I must unite like Voltron and combine our power!
SuperWriter Tell him about your new kink that I introduced it to you, Vore. :sneaky:
Yeah, I just LOVE when you guys troll and harass me lol
 

MrFriendly

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First of all, very well said Faptime (I I'll always giggle a little when I read your name) People were comparing this game to Saw, and even you to Black Mirror when these death trials are a VERY SMALL part of the game. the true story was supposed to start after the death trials so I am keeping the same story line and just give me the death trials for Just Another Bubble.

This is a science fiction mystery, and it always has been. I'm just changing the beginning, honestly. And I think the characters now better suit the story



Yeah, I just LOVE when you guys troll and harass me lol
Ah, you love us ;)

As for Torry, I am fine with wiping the slate clean so that we can form an opinion of her based on the rework. Overall I just don't like feeling like the MC is being dragged along instead of being an equal. It's why I really like the new setup with Val, sure the MC does what she asks, largely without question, but you give him an internal monologue explaining the reason why he does it. And he is able to disagree with her if he chooses. Anyway, I am looking forward to Ch 2. And I hope we haven't driven you too crazy :D
 

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I liked the darker story, but i guess other people complaining won out
It was SuperWriter 's decision as stated in the OP not peoples complaints as he doesnt really cave to other peoples dislikes or complaining. That is one thing i really do like about him, he does his story if you dont like it then he will personally tell you to take a hike LOL.
 

darth_hiruma

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SuperWriter reboot using the original thread? I will give it a shot in a couple months, waiting on PP and SS update :D Thanks man!
Next update is ss!!! ;)
I liked the darker story, but i guess other people complaining won out
It's still dark tho. Darker than his other game at least.
She's dead and gone. Sob sniff.:cry:
I know right? :cry: But he said he will keep her model and use it later. So I'll remind him till that happen.
It was SuperWriter 's decision as stated in the OP not peoples complaints as he doesnt really cave to other peoples dislikes or complaining. That is one thing i really do like about him, he does his story if you dont like it then he will personally tell you to take a hike LOL.
Hmmmm I wish he tell me to take a hike so I could take my harassment up a notch :sneaky:
 

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WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!
Muscular cutie with body some would kill for!
Why do devs kill off the nice gals????o_O:mad:(n)
At least give this game a try before you start complaining lol. You might like it.

SuperWriter reboot using the original thread? I will give it a shot in a couple months, waiting on PP and SS update :D Thanks man!
You should just give it a try now! I really think you'll like this reboot.

I liked the darker story, but i guess other people complaining won out
The reason people like my games is because I'M the one making them. If I caved in to all the requests I get via messages, comments, and email, my games would not be mine anymore.

I explained in the OP the reason for the change. But the main storyline has not been changed. The only thing I have changed for the storyline is take out those death trials which were so insignificant to the story.

There is so MUCH MORE, and you'll see that if you decide to give the game a try in the next coming updates =]

It was SuperWriter 's decision as stated in the OP not peoples complaints as he doesnt really cave to other peoples dislikes or complaining. That is one thing i really do like about him, he does his story if you dont like it then he will personally tell you to take a hike LOL.
LOL I hope I don't come off as rude, I just want to be as transparent as possible and say how I feel. But one thing that I will ALWAYS do is create the best possible story that I can.

All the games you guys have place for me have gone several changes, and for the better. I will do whatever is necessary to make the game the best, even if that means people complaining.

Nothing to do with complaints.

It was never supposed to be as dark as people were making it out to be, dev didn't like the misunderstanding.

Still darker than his other stuff.
Exactly, which I do try to explain in the OP. This game is definitely not sunshine and unicorns, but I didn't like it being compared to Saw and Black Mirror. The game isn't even close to that. Trust me.

It's a mystery science fiction that will surprise you guys, trust me.
 
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