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I wouldn't put it past LM to have Zlata trying to butter you up after Aurora goes, um, cold.
I think she's even wearing the same gown Aurora wore during the ball? At least the cloak for sure.
And it seems it has some meaning I'm just not entirely certain which yet.
No, we can't say that "Conrad is loyal to the throne."
We have literally no basis for that.
We can't get inside his head and find out everything.
What makes you think he's not interested in the throne itself?
Again, if he finds proof of the real Regis's death, what basis do we have to say he won't use it to take the throne himself?
Here's an even more pressing question: what benefit does Elise gain from anyone finding this evidence?
It's rationally stupid to allow Conrad to have this information.
Yes, Alaina is loyal to Eliыe because he's a half-elf, and she has a vested interest in Elise using his power to benefit the elves.
But...
Alaina killed and manipulated countless people so that Alice would be the sole heir and take the throne.
What did Conrad do to put Elise on the throne? Nothing.
What is Conrad doing to keep Elise on the throne? Collecting evidence of his illegitimacy?
Are you really considering whose skull to smash with a goblet, choosing between the one who gave you everything and the one who's collecting evidence against you?
Are you sure you're thinking logically?
Author will obviously give us a choice, as in many cases before.
For example, I like Zlata)
Elis is the legimate heir even if Conrad will find out Alaina's schemes. Are you sure you can trust Alaina to keep you on the throne once you tell her you want nothing to do with the elves, if so you wish?
That's really not a good way to approach stories btw.
Because when a story wants to feel believable it has to adhere to the problem that very few people can stand the extra energy needed to act in a way that is inconsistent with their internal state, all except the most manipulative and Machiavellian people.
The second is that you are basically saying you can look into LM's mind and predict the story better than what is written in text or subtext by way of extrapolation. Which is just hogwash.
So your argument boils down to Conrad's characterization up until now being a red herring for the sake of a twist that has no evidence beyond extrapolation. But such an argument is fundamentally a positivistic one and just because it's a logical chain doesn't mean that it's real, because all logic relies on axioms that you have to just accept as real.
And if you think you got a better read on Conrad than everyone else, that's your prerogative to think, I guess.
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you are on wrong thread then, this one is incest fuckfest
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eh i'd disagree I say this is a story first game that just happens to have incest I don't see it being close to a fuck fest really.you are on wrong thread then, this one is incest fuckfest
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Elis is illegitimate because his father is illegitimate.
If Conrad finds evidence, he will be the next king because Cass is a woman.
I repeat, I don't dispute that Alaina wants benefits for the elves from the human emperor. That's obvious.
Obviously, if you tell Alaina you don't plan to give the elves anything, she'll be disappointed.
But personally, I plan to give the elves at least a valley and rights.
I repeat, Alaina's adventures are far more daunting than Elis.
Alaina knows how to kill, manipulate, pressure, and deceive entire nations.
With the resume she laid out before the fireplace, the CIA would beg to hire her at any price.
Her help will be invaluable when Alice wants to legitimize her harem.
We just need to find out whether she values a republic, or whether she'll help build an absolute monarchy.
If it's the former, then she needs to crack her skull with a goblet right now.
If it's the latter, then she'll be more helpful than anyone.
That is just false. You don't actually need to develop anything new for non-preggo path. Basically everything stays the same, but those who don't want to see preggo content - don't. You only need to include one variable in the game and all that it does - exclude content you don't want to see. Everything else stays just the same. Well, maybe some sex scenes change in one detail, that being how models look, but their non-preggo look is already in place, so you don't actually need to develop that. Believe me, tracking if Cass is alive (what monster would kill her anyway?) is more complicated.
I'm not saying I'm looking into the author's mind.
My commentary is analysis and logic.
Have you played chess? Have you ever planned anything in your life?
Then you should know that a good plan should be based on the worst-case scenario.
A good plan should eliminate the worst-case scenario.
The worst-case scenario for Elis regarding Conrad is that his playing the good uncle is just a facade, and he also desires the throne like his brothers.
And purely mathematically, he will be in a position to undermine Alice's power and legitimacy when he finds evidence.
Logically, he already threatens Elis power simply by possessing such information—that Elis is illegitimate.
(Unlike Alaina, who cannot reveal this information without drowning herself and the elves.)
Therefore, killing Conrad is simply logical.
You don't get it. I don't care whether I read Conrad better or worse than everyone else.
(Obviously, the author will give us a development where Conrad will be both a traitor and an ally, just like Alaina)
If you don't kill Conrad after all this, then you're a naive who closes your eyes to the worst-case scenario and believes the best, that Conrad really is a good guy.
Yes, you're right, "just because it's a logical chain doesn't mean that it's real"
Well said, indeed.
But for me, it's enough that it's logical and rational, meaning Conrad's skull gets to know the cup.
In any case, it's just a game.
In my first playthrough, I want to make the same decisions I would if I were the protagonist.
And I'd be guided by logic, not by the concepts of writing an entertaining story.
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Except every scene that features those characters (and the story heavily involves all the women, regardless of romance status) has to be rendered twice - pregnant version and non-pregnant version.
Maybe it doesn't amount to 200% work because they aren't in every render, but it is certainly at least 150% more work for LM, who already "struggles" to maintain his rigorous 2-month schedule (which already includes sacrifices like script errors, bugs, inconsistencies, and even reduced render count for 1.1).
To accommodate your request, LM would have to punish basically 90% of his other fans that want to see pregnancy content.
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I would even argue pregnancy content makes more sense in this 1 for story reasons as well and that is coming from someone that is picky if I like pregnancy content. Only characters I can think of that would be a bit weird and out of place in terms of pregnancy content for me up to what I played ( yeah I know im slow ) would be the mother and her Elf side of the family and probably Ophelia .
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only just got back from the West , which is why i said up to what I played. Even if others do get pregnant besides Cass , Elin and the wife it would still weird for me from what I played thus far. Not saying it shouldn't happen just wouldn't feel off to me with how their paths feel right now. Tho I can see it making more sense for an asshole type of save , where it doesn't feel like the MC loves them but is just in it for the sex. , since those options are there.
Cass imo is the only one that wouldn't feel right with pregnancy content because you'd bench her. Ophelia never leaves the castle anyway so it wouldn't matter other than it would be hard to cover up although
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It's not like the pregnancies other than the wives and Valeria's were planned anyway. It's just Elis being careless and not pulling out
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I can only speak from what I played so far and how it feels to me. I really only was commenting because I find the pregnancy thing makes sense from a story point of view with certain characters to me since that what was being talked about.
But for how I feel on the subject from what played so far ( just got back from the west so things can change)
i'm 50/50 on Cass cause I really like how her path plays and feels but yeah she doesn't feel like a LI that it would make too much sense either for her character to get knocked up. But I can also kind of see it happening ( depending on how her character is by time I finish my 12 or so saves) cause just like Elin I get a sense of closeness with her just not as close as the twin for obvious reasons.
The mother just doesn't feel right to me cause how that relationship mostly feels creepy to me with how the MC acts towards her if you are on her path. It's also why to me if im being honest that is one of the few incest relationships I could do without in this game. Since this feels more like a story first game than a incest game to me otherwise be whatever to me. This is coming from someone that mostly only likes mothers from incest games too.
I also kind of feel the same for Ophelia as I do with the mother just with less of a creep factor. But also kind of mixed about her too cause she is a really fun character yet and she has made it clear what she wants and how she feels. Yet the way she acts gives me pause , which is why she is on my content saves and not my main saves same goes with the mother. Also I kind of don't like the mother very much compared to Cass , Elin and Ophelia and Aurora. Only 1 I dislike more than the mother for now is Isis
Now im only looking at it from a story telling and love path point of view cause that is how I see this game. Not saying they shouldn't be there at all or anything cause I get why it's there especially since you can play your MC as an asshole / creep where that playstyle in my eyes the mother makes sense to me for those type of saves or MC's. But that is why there are certain incest relationships in this game I could do without on a personal level which is why I don't play them on my main saves only content saves
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