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I wonder how the dev can turn the princess into a LI. Unless there is some plot twist, she is clearly evil and commit a lot of atrocities. And while the MC can become evil, he is still at odd with her. So how the dev gonna do it ?
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there are a few paths i can think off.. not that hard to turn a early villain into a ally ,its a common trope
I'm gonna guess it's gonna turn out that the atrocities of her soldiers were committed by some proxy of hers and without her knowledge. It already said that she didn't enjoy what they were doing to mc.
I'm suspecting she will end up getting her magic powers as a result of Iannas power in mc when they sleep together.
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yeah my go to theory right now is: that mage that did the torture is blackmailing her to keep quite about his corruption etc.
we'll see how it plays out, her being a bitch and you getting her as slave or something is a viable path aswell
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Hi AtemX
I just tried your game and the Always cameos, I honestly really liked them, the reference to your previous game (one of my favorites), Now this one looks pretty good too, just the gorgeous Elf on the cover had me almost won over, then you add a sexy redhead MILF and an adorable sweet cat girl,I'm at 100, let's see how it continues and more, I'm looking forward to the next update, greetings DEV
I just tried your game and the Always cameos, I honestly really liked them, the reference to your previous game (one of my favorites), Now this one looks pretty good too, just the gorgeous Elf on the cover had me almost won over, then you add a sexy redhead MILF and an adorable sweet cat girl,I'm at 100, let's see how it continues and more, I'm looking forward to the next update, greetings DEV
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Ok finally decided to give it a try and maaan. This got some big potnetial, story seems interesting, the world is huge and everyone loves a good adventure. renders and animations are smooth to the eyes. SO yeah, some real potential.
I'm currently at the part where the shop owner refuses to sell the dress. Even b4 that, I was alrdy frustrated with how MC acts smt. I'm not asking for a genius MC just smn with minimal lvl of thinking and criticism. Even if he's smt wrong I don't mind it but atleast it'd the player that MC think abt things.
He never seems to be trhinking deeply abt things . For exemple it took me only 2 secs after hearing the story of her world to understand that EA sports oh, I mean the blue sister doesn't seem necesarrily bad. Oh and what a coincidence that when he exudes desire to take revenge. Her sis who happens to want revenge summons him to free herself. it also didn't take me much time to see that the slave rune and the one he aqcuired are quite similar or atleast use the same fundamentals (mmm weird a little comment on that or inner dialogue would have been nice).
Oh and I know , I know he was "tortured" by ppl "bc of her". Ok if it was in the moment and he didn't think abt it I'd go ok that's understandable. However my man seems to be able to think quite clearly abt things. SO yeah a little bit of questionning wouldn't have stunned me lol. Quite the coincidence that just when I'm deseperate I received her help. Maybe she's the one who guided my soul there. Or maybe another being messed with some things which guided me there. Or maybe EA just threw me wherever but keeping open abt things wouldn't hurt.
I don't wanna say otherwise but he seems to be quite the weeb, as weeb myself if you have watched a certain number of shows, animes even read books... You develop quite the sense and a boarder understanding of things than someone with no knowledge abt these things. Like when he took the phone I srlsy thought pls tell me you did think abt using electiricity magic to charge it. SO BASIC
Now I'm at the scene with the shop owner, there is smt I find quite fun yk. We got all sort of choices to improve pragmatism and I never did it bc it didn't sit well with me. The only moment where I wanted MC to actually act a bit harsh he didn't. Maybe dev should think abt adding a vigilante stat. A stat that would represent you may do smt that ppl may see as bad but you do it for good lol. Even then he should have taken his clothes back in that case and offered to give them to another tailor (he could've then hinted that this was a unique product and make her understand that she'll pass on an incredible opportunity).
Like man you litteraly have smt out of this word, it's like this guy don't understand the most basic things abt rarity. Srsly it's making me go crazy, it may seem useless to you but put yourself in that tailor's place. She litteraly said it herself that the cloth seems quite special.
Maan, I just think a choice there would have been extra nice,You'd get the
-1st choice which is to just go along with it you got a promotion out of it lol (prbbly not worht your jeans)
still you get to save money on that.
-2nd you can go "oh you don't want me to buy this thing for her? then 1st give me back those clothes and 2nd I'll buy them as a present for a lady Ik (maybe name lady Blaze or whatever)"
here
The player would maybe lose more money on this but maybe earn some relationship point with Sylvia. You could gain some pts in a charisma or int stat even a pride stat give that you prefer losing money rather than belittling your moral beliefs. You also get to keep your jeans with an opportunity to later sell them to a tailor maybe even tell him they are otherworldy using the phone to confirm that or whatever dev/s come up with.
or another option to use a more drastic method.
-3rd "This is the last chance I give you, if you don't let me buy them, I can assure you that YOU'll beg your past self to sell it" while lighting a flame in his hand.
Doing this directly b4 even trying to negociate would give pragmatism pts bc you just do it out of arrogance. It could even give more that 1 pragmatism point if you alrdy have some.
However if it goes like this :
You could even give the 3rd option to the player after he chose the 2nd option, if she still refuses to sell it. He could either stop at that or choose this option. He'd then gain vigilante pts since you do it bc you don't like injustice or pramatism if he alrdy has more than 2 for exemple.
With a slight difference in dialogue if he has more pragmatism pts than selfless pts.
Anyway, that's just how I saw things happening not him dumbly giving smt of great value for a ridicule amount of money saved (compared to the value of the jean). Even if it's useless to a tailor every world has collector. I'm sure they would be ready to pay a hefty price for them lol
Anyway, this got me frustrated bc idk, it seems like MC is quite the idiot honestly lol. I needed to get it off my chest lol
Note that I'm writing this com while playing and still hot headed, maybe we'll have similar option down the way.
THX
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I'm currently at the part where the shop owner refuses to sell the dress. Even b4 that, I was alrdy frustrated with how MC acts smt. I'm not asking for a genius MC just smn with minimal lvl of thinking and criticism. Even if he's smt wrong I don't mind it but atleast it'd the player that MC think abt things.
He never seems to be trhinking deeply abt things . For exemple it took me only 2 secs after hearing the story of her world to understand that EA sports oh, I mean the blue sister doesn't seem necesarrily bad. Oh and what a coincidence that when he exudes desire to take revenge. Her sis who happens to want revenge summons him to free herself. it also didn't take me much time to see that the slave rune and the one he aqcuired are quite similar or atleast use the same fundamentals (mmm weird a little comment on that or inner dialogue would have been nice).
Oh and I know , I know he was "tortured" by ppl "bc of her". Ok if it was in the moment and he didn't think abt it I'd go ok that's understandable. However my man seems to be able to think quite clearly abt things. SO yeah a little bit of questionning wouldn't have stunned me lol. Quite the coincidence that just when I'm deseperate I received her help. Maybe she's the one who guided my soul there. Or maybe another being messed with some things which guided me there. Or maybe EA just threw me wherever but keeping open abt things wouldn't hurt.
I don't wanna say otherwise but he seems to be quite the weeb, as weeb myself if you have watched a certain number of shows, animes even read books... You develop quite the sense and a boarder understanding of things than someone with no knowledge abt these things. Like when he took the phone I srlsy thought pls tell me you did think abt using electiricity magic to charge it. SO BASIC
Now I'm at the scene with the shop owner, there is smt I find quite fun yk. We got all sort of choices to improve pragmatism and I never did it bc it didn't sit well with me. The only moment where I wanted MC to actually act a bit harsh he didn't. Maybe dev should think abt adding a vigilante stat. A stat that would represent you may do smt that ppl may see as bad but you do it for good lol. Even then he should have taken his clothes back in that case and offered to give them to another tailor (he could've then hinted that this was a unique product and make her understand that she'll pass on an incredible opportunity).
Like man you litteraly have smt out of this word, it's like this guy don't understand the most basic things abt rarity. Srsly it's making me go crazy, it may seem useless to you but put yourself in that tailor's place. She litteraly said it herself that the cloth seems quite special.
Maan, I just think a choice there would have been extra nice,You'd get the
-1st choice which is to just go along with it you got a promotion out of it lol (prbbly not worht your jeans)
still you get to save money on that.
-2nd you can go "oh you don't want me to buy this thing for her? then 1st give me back those clothes and 2nd I'll buy them as a present for a lady Ik (maybe name lady Blaze or whatever)"
here
The player would maybe lose more money on this but maybe earn some relationship point with Sylvia. You could gain some pts in a charisma or int stat even a pride stat give that you prefer losing money rather than belittling your moral beliefs. You also get to keep your jeans with an opportunity to later sell them to a tailor maybe even tell him they are otherworldy using the phone to confirm that or whatever dev/s come up with.
or another option to use a more drastic method.
-3rd "This is the last chance I give you, if you don't let me buy them, I can assure you that YOU'll beg your past self to sell it" while lighting a flame in his hand.
Doing this directly b4 even trying to negociate would give pragmatism pts bc you just do it out of arrogance. It could even give more that 1 pragmatism point if you alrdy have some.
However if it goes like this :
You could even give the 3rd option to the player after he chose the 2nd option, if she still refuses to sell it. He could either stop at that or choose this option. He'd then gain vigilante pts since you do it bc you don't like injustice or pramatism if he alrdy has more than 2 for exemple.
With a slight difference in dialogue if he has more pragmatism pts than selfless pts.
Anyway, that's just how I saw things happening not him dumbly giving smt of great value for a ridicule amount of money saved (compared to the value of the jean). Even if it's useless to a tailor every world has collector. I'm sure they would be ready to pay a hefty price for them lol
Anyway, this got me frustrated bc idk, it seems like MC is quite the idiot honestly lol. I needed to get it off my chest lol
Note that I'm writing this com while playing and still hot headed, maybe we'll have similar option down the way.
THX
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No one forces you to sleep with her... you can quite literally "Stay Friends" even with full hearts... others want to fuck her, so people gotta get their heads out of their asses and let them fuck her if they want...
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Ok... I'm just going to tell you that for me the game is fine as it is.
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And it is at least for the story told so far, others things can always be improved even the narrative here and there as long it is still the same story the developer wants to tell.
Diversity of tastes and points of views are fine as long someone don't try to dictate what each one taste and point of view should be or getting personal/shame/insult because they are different of our own. One of most important rules in this forum is "do not kink shame". For the record I usually play most this games in a "good person"/love/romance routes and only a few in a "evil person"/corrupt routes but never ever NTS/NTS routes, but that is me, anyone is totally free to play on their accord and no judgement from my part.
If events are forced and someone don't like it they are free not to play the game, other thing is "forcing" someone or the developer/author to change something in it that is relevant to the story or change events that are avoidable, in this case romancing Carmen or having sex with her. I will romance/fuck Carmen because I'm also curious on how it will evolve and I trust AtemX vision/storytelling after playing AlwaysFan.
Ok just finished playing the game and holy hell this game's super big for an episode and so generous in terms of scenes.ANd let me tell you it's top tier in term of animation. In most games I find animations annoying, even thinking the game would be better without them but this one, these ones are frkin hot.
The game got so many scenes and it's only episode 1, dev/s was super generous. Usually when you play a game and it's chapter 1/episode 1 or whathever, you only have 1 scene and it only features one character. But we actually got to have seggs not just get a hj or bj from 2 characters and many scenes with another one.
Now gameplay wise, it's rly interesting. I like how the dev/s kept it overall in VN mode while smt switching to "sandbox" and making the fight RPG like. Only thing I'm a bit sad is that we don't have fight scenes they are skipped when we finish the fight. A pity if yu ask me bc you could produce badass fight scenes with world settings like those.
I won't lie at 1st I was a bit frustrated with how MC (still got a bit of that) acted like I said in a previous com. He just doesn't seem weeb enough. Like ik, he got entangled in a big mess but it'd have been great to see him actually try and experiment with his magic, test if he could make fire arrows or bullet like arrow with spinning effect to increase the penetration. Even try and combine them with his electricity and see if he could make fire bullet coated in lightning. I mean if his imagination is the only limit he could basically do anything.
However, pushing through that, I was rewarded with an experience to remember. You get a lot of choices down the road which is a rly good thing and pariticiapte in making the player feel the adventure instead of feeling bored. I never got bored while playin this game.
There is one thing that I hope will be added to the game, I noticed that whenever you tried to get "kinky" in bed or add a bit of rp to the seggs you usually lost some relationship pts. I hope dev/s will implement a character that actually enjoy that or maybe make it so a character grow to enjoys that. It's not bc you enjoy smt in bed that you necessarily enjoy it out of bed.
Anyway, can't wait for episode to come out, I certainly hope it'll be on par if not better than episode 1
I wish all the best to the dev/s, GL with your game
THX
The game got so many scenes and it's only episode 1, dev/s was super generous. Usually when you play a game and it's chapter 1/episode 1 or whathever, you only have 1 scene and it only features one character. But we actually got to have seggs not just get a hj or bj from 2 characters and many scenes with another one.
Now gameplay wise, it's rly interesting. I like how the dev/s kept it overall in VN mode while smt switching to "sandbox" and making the fight RPG like. Only thing I'm a bit sad is that we don't have fight scenes they are skipped when we finish the fight. A pity if yu ask me bc you could produce badass fight scenes with world settings like those.
I won't lie at 1st I was a bit frustrated with how MC (still got a bit of that) acted like I said in a previous com. He just doesn't seem weeb enough. Like ik, he got entangled in a big mess but it'd have been great to see him actually try and experiment with his magic, test if he could make fire arrows or bullet like arrow with spinning effect to increase the penetration. Even try and combine them with his electricity and see if he could make fire bullet coated in lightning. I mean if his imagination is the only limit he could basically do anything.
However, pushing through that, I was rewarded with an experience to remember. You get a lot of choices down the road which is a rly good thing and pariticiapte in making the player feel the adventure instead of feeling bored. I never got bored while playin this game.
There is one thing that I hope will be added to the game, I noticed that whenever you tried to get "kinky" in bed or add a bit of rp to the seggs you usually lost some relationship pts. I hope dev/s will implement a character that actually enjoy that or maybe make it so a character grow to enjoys that. It's not bc you enjoy smt in bed that you necessarily enjoy it out of bed.
Anyway, can't wait for episode to come out, I certainly hope it'll be on par if not better than episode 1
I wish all the best to the dev/s, GL with your game
THX
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the problem with that is that you have a rpg and fighting system in the game, MC cant constantly become stronger because he does random magic experiments, if you do it the RPG and fighting system becomes meaningless.
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I really like it the Dev has come a long way I will say, not a real fan of the pragmatist and selfishness thing I should not have to be a pragmatist just to use force on someone I kind of feel like intimidation actions like that should be tied to something else same with convincing people. But other than that, I like the game.
This is one my negative too. Love the game but it feels like I have to have two saves (1 with not being a complete asshole and 1 with hot dominant sex) It would be nice to have choices that allow for some nuance, like you can be selfless and care about the characters but super aggressive in the bedroom OR have specific characters that line up better with those kinks.
That's where your mistake is. Mc doesn't necessarily become stronger from them. It was clearly explained by Inanna that MC can only become stronger by either killing or havin seggs. The only thing MC would gain from that is different spell and more spell control. Ofc he can become "stronger" from that but his base stats won't change. For exemple his current stats (magic, str, dex end...) obv don't allow him to currently cast a fire tornado or some big aoe like that.
However with control and creativity like I said, he could make fire arrows or bullets with rotative effects, they'd ignore enemy's defense... I don't think those necessarilly ask for more mana they just ask for creativity and control. I mean I'm not the one who stes the rule, "just imagine it and the magic will happen".
Anyway, sry to say that but I feel like that rpg system is more for entertainment purpose than for being useful a bit like minigames in other games. They're mostly there to keep the player entertained.
Thinking back on it why is everyone lvling up when we beat ppl? I thought MC was the only one that received Inanna's "blessing".
Meaning others shouldn't be able to "lvl up" like that. Through training, combat experience, taking elixirs... Maybe they could "lvl up". However it'd still be different from Mc's way of lvling up and more akin to how you, me and others grow stronger.
So yeah I appreciate the combat system not bc it complements the story but more bc it's fun to swith things sometimes lol.
Plus even if we follow your logic it doesn't contradict mine, look :
- He has a higer understanding and comes up with a spell, he gains a new spell with special effects (could be pierce, immune for ? rounds...) different from base attribute effect (lightning : paralyze ; fire : burns...).
Even combine 2 attributes or more (lightning, fire, water, earth/stone, light, dark)
- He lvl up, he can throw bigger spells and more destructive ones
I hope I helped you understand my point.
THX
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yes your point is MC gets more destructive spells for the only reason that he experiments with his powers, should he do it logical? yes. I would do it every time i have a second to myself if i was him.
But you said many words that boil down to the simple fact that MC gets stronger. Circumventing def, aoe, combination of elements to negate resistances, all that is doing is making the mc stronger in the fight sections. If you can nuke every combat encounter with an aoe fireball you can make the battle a single button choice and skip it entirely. OR you stack so many enemies that the fireball cant kill all of them with a single blast which is awfully contrived world design. MC got a new spell ramp up the enemy count. MC had sex again ramp up the enemy level. The fighting system as is needs to react to MCs sex live already. Because it has to take into account that MC gets stronger from Sex.
At some point the believability of the world suffers if to much contrivances gets piled on to another.
Man you have to keep in mind that Mc's a low lvl guy atleast for now. Even if he wanted to nuke everyone with an aoe spell like Lady blaze. He still can't for now, bc he doesn't have enough mana for that sh1t. When he'll have enough mana for that, he'll prbbly encounters stronger enemy with stronger resistance, more dmg, healing abilities (maybe even special abilities) which will balance things. Plus you'd have to take into consideration the mana cost, Imagine if that enemy has a passive ability that reduce dmg on aoe bla bla.
It's not my job to balance thing but I'll give you an exemple, if a fire arrow deals more damage and ignore a certain part of the enemy's defense. A fire ball should have less dmg but a big probability to burn the enemies. Now it's your choice would you rather start with a fire arrow that deals a lot of dmg and hope to one shot the guys who may have a healer or would deal damage over time forcing the healer to constantly heal one of his allies (remember that MC doesn't have infinite mana) bla bla.
Now for the seggs and kill counts increasing MC's powers. I'm not the one who set that rule lol. Look MC alrdy has a cd on that seggs ability, Balancing thiings there is ez the bigger the lvl the more he needs to have seggs. You could even include settings like, is this the 1st time he has seggs with this character bigger boost ; is that character a high lvl one (compared to MC), bigger boost... Plus it seems this only influence his magic abilitites (correct me if I'm wrong)
I think the kill aspect is alrdy balanced
Don't forget that there are mages in that word too. With a lot more experience when it comes to magic than MC has so evening things out won't be difficult. However I completely satnd on the fact that it's normal that at some point MC will be nearly unstoppable unless he fights agains a millenial elf or sh1t like that.
Man in the end it's all doable and mangeable it just depends on wether dev/s wants it or not. I hope I wasn't spouting bs and made myself understandable lol.
I'll add that balancing things isn't the goal here. MC is supposed to be cheat bc of his blessing.
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Hey dev I absolutely loved your first game.
Looking forward to this.
Looking forward to this.