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Do you honestly think that Kinney would report themselves?
Kinney is one of the most responsive devs on here, just look at the post immediately following yours!
Kinney is one of the most responsive devs on here, just look at the post immediately following yours!
I just posted this on my Discord:
Hey '@'Everyone
so I have good and bad news. The good news is that I will most likely get the page back and am allowed to resume what I started. But unfortunately this is where the bad news begin.
In order to resume I had to decide what I wanna do. But first a bit of context. Patreon told me that the character in question is Charlie, because Beth sent him away. In order to be allowed to have the game on Patreon though I'd have to rewrite the entire Intro and a lot of the plot in addition to removing the incest. And that would destroy the vision, that I had for IR. It would probably allowed to have it on Patreon if I'd use something like landlady instead if mom, but even that would require a lot of changes or otherwise the story would make no sense.
But the biggest issue is that incest is an integral part of the plot and therefore can't really be removed. Believe me I've tried in the last few days and even though some of you might be okay with it, if I remove the content in question. I'm not. The fact is that I wrote the story years ago and IR is based on that story.
Having the most important part of it removed is something that just doesn't feel right. The goal of IR was never to make money, my goal always was to create the game exactly like I invisioned it and sadly that's only possible outside of Patreon. The fact of the matter is, that the the ingame goal of IR always was to avoid and prevent incest, not to actually go for it (even though that was and will be a possibility). So back to the bad news.
I decided to pull IR from Patreon and move AbF there instead.
Don't worry though, I'm still going to continue with IR and in fact it's still going to get new content, but it will from now on only be available on itch.io or on sites like f95zone. I know it sucks and I wouldn't blame you guys if you'd decide to delete your pledge.
best regards and sorry for the bad news
Kinney
Again let me make one thing clear, I will NOT abandon Inevitable Relations and will continue to work on the game. The only change is that it won't be the game for my Patreon campaign anymore.
The reason for that is like I said above the fact that I'd need to change too much in order to redesign IR, so that the story is just a shell of it's former self. Sure it might be possible and still have the game with a plot that technically makes sense, but it won't really help the development if the story basically just pisses me off, because I can't create the game the way I intended it to be.
I'm aware that this change will cost me some support, maybe even most of it, but like I said many times before money never really was my goal.
Hey '@'Everyone
so I have good and bad news. The good news is that I will most likely get the page back and am allowed to resume what I started. But unfortunately this is where the bad news begin.
In order to resume I had to decide what I wanna do. But first a bit of context. Patreon told me that the character in question is Charlie, because Beth sent him away. In order to be allowed to have the game on Patreon though I'd have to rewrite the entire Intro and a lot of the plot in addition to removing the incest. And that would destroy the vision, that I had for IR. It would probably allowed to have it on Patreon if I'd use something like landlady instead if mom, but even that would require a lot of changes or otherwise the story would make no sense.
But the biggest issue is that incest is an integral part of the plot and therefore can't really be removed. Believe me I've tried in the last few days and even though some of you might be okay with it, if I remove the content in question. I'm not. The fact is that I wrote the story years ago and IR is based on that story.
Having the most important part of it removed is something that just doesn't feel right. The goal of IR was never to make money, my goal always was to create the game exactly like I invisioned it and sadly that's only possible outside of Patreon. The fact of the matter is, that the the ingame goal of IR always was to avoid and prevent incest, not to actually go for it (even though that was and will be a possibility). So back to the bad news.
I decided to pull IR from Patreon and move AbF there instead.
Don't worry though, I'm still going to continue with IR and in fact it's still going to get new content, but it will from now on only be available on itch.io or on sites like f95zone. I know it sucks and I wouldn't blame you guys if you'd decide to delete your pledge.
best regards and sorry for the bad news
Kinney
Again let me make one thing clear, I will NOT abandon Inevitable Relations and will continue to work on the game. The only change is that it won't be the game for my Patreon campaign anymore.
The reason for that is like I said above the fact that I'd need to change too much in order to redesign IR, so that the story is just a shell of it's former self. Sure it might be possible and still have the game with a plot that technically makes sense, but it won't really help the development if the story basically just pisses me off, because I can't create the game the way I intended it to be.
I'm aware that this change will cost me some support, maybe even most of it, but like I said many times before money never really was my goal.
- Aug 7, 2016
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I personally never cared for Charlie and avoided most of the interaction with him, so if you ware to cut him out completely I'd be more grateful than anything, but it's your game your vision, glad to see you being positive and hopeful about your project after getting the patreon slamdunk, to many dev's completely crumble after such outcome.
Thanks, but let's be honest, just abandoning IR was never an option, so there's nothing else I can do. Either I play by Patreons rules or say screw em and develop the game the way I want to with it being on itch and possibly my own website soon.
And yeah I know Charlie is kind of a controversial character, but he's a very important character and can't be removed. It's like removing Beth from the story, it just wouldn't work.
And yeah I know Charlie is kind of a controversial character, but he's a very important character and can't be removed. It's like removing Beth from the story, it just wouldn't work.
@KinneyX23 I don't know much about patreon, but would it be enough if you mentioned in the intro that he's adopted? Then you would only need to post a patch here that makes the original intro again.
@realever
Unfortunately no. There are a few reasons, but the main issue is that Patreon makes no distinction between blood-related, adopted or even step-relations. At least as far as the someone said, that I'm in contact with. But Charlie is just part of the problem, like I said incest is an integral part of the story and without it, it just doesn't make sense, unless I rewrite a substantial part of dialogue.
Unfortunately no. There are a few reasons, but the main issue is that Patreon makes no distinction between blood-related, adopted or even step-relations. At least as far as the someone said, that I'm in contact with. But Charlie is just part of the problem, like I said incest is an integral part of the story and without it, it just doesn't make sense, unless I rewrite a substantial part of dialogue.
Yeah that too, although it's not they (well technically it is, because Panda Penguin Games is the coder of the project), it's just me who renders the images and writes the script.
But just as a quick update, the page should be ready to go now and unless Patreon asks me to do another utterly ridiculous thing again, I'm gonna be "back in business" soon.
But just as a quick update, the page should be ready to go now and unless Patreon asks me to do another utterly ridiculous thing again, I'm gonna be "back in business" soon.
Well, it's not gonna be that easy, that much I can tell you. Yes, the premise is that Charlie and Eva grow closer, but you can also prevent that from happening and at the same time pursue something with either one of them. Or rather you will be able to do that.
Like I said above, it's not happening that Charlie and Eva start something unless you as the player want that to happen.
Can't say too much here, without spoiling what's gonna happen, so I gotta be careful now.
The thing is though that Eva is not interested in Charlie in any sexual way, at least not from the start.
It's gonna be entirely up to you what will happen. She's not gonna do something unless you "ruin" the relationship beforehand.
Short answer: Yes!
Hey, no worries. You made some good points and I hope my answers helped a bit.
For me I'm going to cock block Charlie and it's going to be Benthany + Eva and maybe Bethany's sister and I'll ignore Charlie and the GF.
- Sep 2, 2017
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Nothing after four months... and previously was slow progress as well (let's face it!)...
I'm sorry about that, but I let this game go...
I'm sorry about that, but I let this game go...
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An update should be at the end of the month. Can't say it would, but i think that's possible.
Mainly because I really don't want to. I want to create the game the way I had in mind when I started. Sure I just could have changed it to landlady, roommate etc, but I honestly didn't want to do that. But it wasn't only the incest that was a problem for Patreon, it was that Charlie according to Patreon at least, seemed to be a minor and in order to satisfy them I would have to change the entire premise/reason why he was gone for a year.
I'm not really happy with the way either, but pulling IR from Patreon was the only way that I could think of to continue like I want to.
Sure it would be possible, but then the updates would be small. And by small I mean they would add approximately 15-25 images per month. I just don't have the time to put out big updates each month and let's be honest here IR will be free, so the Patreon campaign is/was only there for people who would like to support the development even with the conditions that are apparent right now. I'd love to put out more content in less time, but with my job and everything that comes with it, I can't unfortunately.
- Nov 15, 2018
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Judging by KinneyX23's post immediately before your own, we'll get a new version when it's ready.@KinneyX23 we wait a new version here
Whenever that is, is whenever Kinney has had enough time to get it to a state where it's ready.
- Nov 15, 2018
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It is ready. If you follow him on itch.io you should know. I just want to know when we'll get download links.