I sincerely believe that they allow the bugged version here to get you paying the 20 dollars when you reach the point you are unable to play further. You get invested in the time you have spend in this game and it frustrates you that a minor bug gets in your way. 20 dollar feels like a small amount to get rid of this frustration. Getting people to pay you for their convenience is a simple, manipulative but understandable business model. Khan is openly promoting that. But its their right to do so. Like the other guy wrote here. Its a pirate site, we cant expect to get anything here. We just have to wait and STFU xD
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We are talking 6 years of active development. Now with 11 people in the team
That makes 1 sex scene every 6,54 Months.
Your game in both plots together is now 8 Hours long. (many assets were reused but who cares)
6 years and 8 hours of gameplay is precisly 11 minutes of gameplay each month for 22k Dollar per month.
If you wanna be rude you could say every person on your team creates roughly 1 minute gameplay each month. For 2000 dollar a month from patreon supporters alone. (you have subcribestar and 20 dollar (tips) for new versions ect. too)
thats the biggest mismanagment i have ever seen.
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- Jun 22, 2017
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For a pirate site, I'm surprised the dev are active here. Pretty glad that they haven't tried to shut this thing down.
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My major gripe with the game, from what little I have played, is the terrible translation.
Speaking of the 11, I'm only criticizing one person here: PLEASE, Khan, your team needs a better translator. As it stands now, the gorgeous art and mood of the game are just ruined by the awful English; it's simply breaking the immersion having to auto-correct everything as we read. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's the truth.
- Jun 8, 2017
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It seems like you already have a strong opinion and don't want to change it. People provided arguments but you continue to be vitriolic and create your own assumptions. We have a Discord server, which you probably know about, and we are online there every day. Instead of asking us there you decide to put your frustrations here, where most of the devs from the team don't even read them, and then you again get frustrated that there's no discussion. By the way, your comments are not deleted by the devs, but by the moderators of this forum, yet you again get angry at the game and the devs for some reason.
Your first argument was about us "making" people to pay in order to get fixed version. This is not true and something you came to as your own conclusion. Now look at this from another angle - we release first version (0.9A), which has a bunch of bugs. Patrons are not happy and we immediately start to fix them. Then someone leaks this version and people here get mad too due to gamebreaking bugs. After that we release the fixed version (0.9.1A), but no one leaks it. Patrons are now happy, the game works, but since no one here leaked the fixed version, people, in order to justify their frustration and fuel up their anger, start to come up with some crazy conspiracy theories that, for example, we deliberately put bugs into the game and then fix them in the next version. Okay, how should we as devs make you happy in such situation? Should we just say to our patrons that sorry guys, someone leaked the first version, but didn't leak the fixed one, so we have to upload it ourselves, we hope you understand. Is that what you propose? Or should we always release bug free versions first time so that people here are happy when someone leaks it? Just stop and think for a second about what you are complaining about.
Next you said that it's 6 years of development and it's still in alpha (?). Have you actually looked at how our release cycle works? If not please spend a bit of time to prepare before starting a discussion.
You then mention that you built larger scale games in a year and have experience with game development. Could you at least provide a link to any of such games? Are they built in Ren'Py and have multilingual support, Live2D animations, art that is at least close to IW, active devs who respond in Discord to everyone, and so on?
You also said that we haven't released a new version in three months. That is true. However, in case you haven't noticed, there's currently a war happening in the world, and our team was directly influenced by these events, which caused the development of 0.9B to be stalled. This in details was mentioned multiple times in the news posts on Patreon, both in public ones and in the dev. reports for patrons. Do you want us to personally solve the world crisis just so that you and your wiener are happy? Or maybe you want to develop the game from the basement while the bombs drop on your home? We already solved most of the problems caused by this madness in the world, and are working on bringing the next version to people as soon as possible, but I guess this doesn't really matter to you since you already decided that the devs are evil and crave only for money.
Finally, almost all people in our team have full-time jobs. We do not develop the game 100% of our time. At some point some of the team members considered leaving their jobs and use Patreon as their salary provider, but after lengthy considerations they decided against it. You might ask why, but the answer should be pretty obvious. For example, at any moment the payments can be completely cut off, like it happened recently, you just can't rely on them. Therefore, the game is developed after the main work. Also, Patreon is not a marketplace, we do not sign contracts with people and we do not sell the finished product. Instead we make the game people like and want to support. And we try our best to make people who support us to be happy.
I hope this answered at least some of your frustration (which you created yourself).
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Yep, some lines are a mess. However due to chaotic nature of the development that we had before it was not feasible to edit the texts professionally, since they could be completely changed/replaced/deleted literally in the next version. Some of the parts were edited and should be fine, but this is far from ideal. Now we have a good and well documented plan, and once chapters 4 and 5 are integrated into the new plot, we will prioritize the editing of those chapters that won't change in future. So rest assured, it's on the list and will be done in the future.
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Dude, they started the first year with $0 and had to invest their own money to develop a game.
This guy never pays for the game any lying around. I can feel it.
I mean the amount of sexual content in this sex game for such a large, well funded, team that has been working for 6+ years is abysmal. Full time or not. The candor by the devs is poor considering that. I know game development can be rough but I can certainly understand the criticisms.
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There's something i wanna say:
+ This is not a free-to made-product, it cost a lot and patrons pledging to help the devs complete it and they receive a reward is the early access. What's the point of criticize them for not letting you get the reward from people who paid them? And if any of those patrons want to share there reward, they posted it here, and Sad Crab didnt do anything to prevent them from that (which is many others devs doing, Inusen is an example). And eventually you will play the exact same version from them (which is, again, many others game's public version wouldnt let you)
+ 2D handdraw requires time, much time. Have u ever tried to draw something decent? Especially Serg works is masterpiece and not many others artist can have such a talent like him (i dare u find another game with decent art can be compared to IW on f95 with a faster release?). I admit that the game progress is slow, but in 0,9 they showed us a really big update compare to those before, so what to complain now? (take a look to Witch Hunter Trainer, a totally scam that make u think again about Sad Crab)
+ If you are willing to play the pirate version, you have to face the bug problem of course (unless some generous patrons share the bug fixed version here). You have to know the trick to deal with those but not crying out loud and blame the devs for not fixing them for you, if you blaming about public version, yes you have the right. But patrons paid 20 bucks to have the right accessing the alpha version, what make u think a random dude like u can have the same right?
Stop criticizing them, just giving out suggestions and together we will make the game to success
+ This is not a free-to made-product, it cost a lot and patrons pledging to help the devs complete it and they receive a reward is the early access. What's the point of criticize them for not letting you get the reward from people who paid them? And if any of those patrons want to share there reward, they posted it here, and Sad Crab didnt do anything to prevent them from that (which is many others devs doing, Inusen is an example). And eventually you will play the exact same version from them (which is, again, many others game's public version wouldnt let you)
+ 2D handdraw requires time, much time. Have u ever tried to draw something decent? Especially Serg works is masterpiece and not many others artist can have such a talent like him (i dare u find another game with decent art can be compared to IW on f95 with a faster release?). I admit that the game progress is slow, but in 0,9 they showed us a really big update compare to those before, so what to complain now? (take a look to Witch Hunter Trainer, a totally scam that make u think again about Sad Crab)
+ If you are willing to play the pirate version, you have to face the bug problem of course (unless some generous patrons share the bug fixed version here). You have to know the trick to deal with those but not crying out loud and blame the devs for not fixing them for you, if you blaming about public version, yes you have the right. But patrons paid 20 bucks to have the right accessing the alpha version, what make u think a random dude like u can have the same right?
Stop criticizing them, just giving out suggestions and together we will make the game to success
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Thanks for the clarification, but I really do hope you can manage to find a more proficient specialist in the matter. Not only for the game itself, but also for your official website as well.
Good luck with your future endeavors.
Thank you for your reply mate
i cant and wont promote my work here for the reason of crosspromotion.
I work with unreal and unity (my older projects) and my games even have fully voiced texts and facial motion capture. And no ... im not only working with BP, i really code things myself. I understand that my way of seeing work and passion is different from others. I would never ask for 20 dollar for a version of my build instead giving everyone to opportunity to play and leave a tip for me. Its a business decision to do so and i respect that. Is renpy really this hard to work with? if yes you really should concider taking the effort and changing your engine for the sake of efficency. I studied game desgin back in 2012 and now have years of experience in this field.
You sound genuine to me, and i am sorry for attacking you so fiercly but there are lots of things i really dont understand. like 11 minutes of gameplay (+-) every month with a team in a text based game will mostly still images. But thats not my business. You have to aknowledge the problems people see with your product even when they are not your customers. and i think its great you made your point clear. i respect that.
I hope everything will get better for you guys in future and wishes you just the best.
my goal wasnt to attack the developer, its about the decisions that are/were made.
Love every one here mate
9.1 has been leaked and removed here.
the "release cycle" is made to milk patrons
plenty of larger better made games have been made in a fraction of the time this game has had.
This crap has been going on long before the war started.
With the money the patreon alone rakes in off of this one game you could easily hire full time devs. People are supporting the game. Not your lifestyles.
I hope this exposes some of your bullshit. (which you created yourself)
no good scenes with a main girls...no titfuck from Susan, no bj from all 4 girls lol
no titfuck or bj from Minerva
what kind of impotent made this game...
no titfuck or bj from Minerva
what kind of impotent made this game...
disconnect from the internet and try again
Lie there is at least:
Toys and fingers: Luna - act 2 ch 1 old plot
Spanking and titjob: Susan - act 2 ch 1 and new plot, Elf maid - act 1 ch 3 and act 2 ch 1 new plot
Handjob: Hermione - act 2 ch 2 old plot
Blowjob: Ginny - act 1 ch 5 old plot, Xandria act 2 ch 2 old plot , Parvati 2 act 2ch new plot
Sex: Daphne - act 2 ch 1 old plot, Vampire - act 2 ch 1 new plot, Minerva - prologue, Jinny act 2 ch 2 new plot
And more then 50+ any other ero/porn content
(which you created yourself) was a great ending note. Appreciated
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hi guys, im stuck with the polyjuice potion, basically i want to get the piece of Daphne required to make the 2nd polyjuice potion but whenever i summon her it just does the topless scene then she dips. I got the base from Snape and i brewed the first part of the potion btw.