Khan

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Game is unfinished, development is slow, full of reworks, far from perfect ...

So Why - why they earn 20-30 times more money than average indie developer in this genre ?

Main reasons:
1. ART
If art in adult games was olympic discipline Siserg would win all gold medals. I haven’t found any game indie or even profesional which is so beautiful and detailed drawn. (If you have tip on game with better visuals - for research purpose of course ... :D)

You want to look at something sexy, funny, bright ... there are thousands games created with 3D modeling software - ugly as hell. It is sad but when your project at first sight is same as everyone else people will not give you a chance.

2. SUPPORT
You have videos, forums, own wiki - developers still comunicate with people (with fans and haters too). Localization to many languages ...

3. GREAT PROMO
Hard cold truth about success is that your ability to promote and sell is equaly or more important than perfect product.

4. STRONG FRANCHISE + REALLY BIG FANBASE
There are millions of people who dreamed they will join or visit Hogwarts world ...
Don’t forget Rule 34

5. FLAGBEARER
AKAMAN showed us that visiting more ehm adult version of Hogwarts is possible and it can be fun.

6. SEX
Yes there is sex and sex sells :D
It is worth noting that we have 3 more artists in our team besides Siserg, who draw a lot of content + an animator
 

Ratnedalu

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So, anyway, Khan wasn't here the last time I was on this thread, did they hire them as a sort of public relations/hatchetman position, 'cause it seems like their soul purpose is to fight everyone who doesn't like the game's pacing, direction, or genre.
 

Omnikuken

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So, anyway, Khan wasn't here the last time I was on this thread, did they hire them as a sort of public relations/hatchetman position, 'cause it seems like their soul purpose is to fight everyone who doesn't like the game's pacing, direction, or genre.
His account is almost a year older than yours ........ Plot tickens
 
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Khan

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So, anyway, Khan wasn't here the last time I was on this thread, did they hire them as a sort of public relations/hatchetman position, 'cause it seems like their soul purpose is to fight everyone who doesn't like the game's pacing, direction, or genre.
We're not fighting anyone. I am here to give answers to adequate questions and suggestions. I try to prove that you need to play the game yourself, and not listen to the opinions of other people who played either an outdated version of the game, or skipped the dialogues and did not understand the plot, having received only a few scenes from many
 
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Ratnedalu

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His account is almost a year older than yours ........ Plot tickens
Perhaps I forgot about him, or perhaps he was a member/lurker before joining the dev team here. Either is possible. It's been forever since I last talked on this thread.
 

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What boggles me is that Warner Bros has no qualms about copyright striking and threatening lawsuits to smalltime creators on Etsy and other places on the web, if they so much as whisper the word Harry Potter.

Yet this game has been raking in 100s of thousands over the years. I mean, good for the developers and fans, it’s giving people what the want, but I’d be afraid to get sued. Or am I overthinking this?
 

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What boggles me is that Warner Bros has no qualms about copyright striking and threatening lawsuits to smalltime creators on Etsy and other places on the web, if they so much as whisper the word Harry Potter.

Yet this game has been raking in 100s of thousands over the years. I mean, good for the developers and fans, it’s giving people what the want, but I’d be afraid to get sued. Or am I overthinking this?
Shhhhhhhh!

....they'll hear you.
 

Omnikuken

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What boggles me is that Warner Bros has no qualms about copyright striking and threatening lawsuits to smalltime creators on Etsy and other places on the web, if they so much as whisper the word Harry Potter.

Yet this game has been raking in 100s of thousands over the years. I mean, good for the developers and fans, it’s giving people what the want, but I’d be afraid to get sued. Or am I overthinking this?
Devs are in Russia, guess they don't care about Murican laws that much
 

Omnikuken

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Well, the devs may not care, but what about Patreon? Is there even a chance Patreon will delete their account if/when pressured?
They've been at it for more than 6 years, if WB wanted them dead, it'd be done a while ago. As long as they follow Patreon's guidelines, not much will happen ...... And even then, all they might get is a temp ban until they change some stuff to be more "copyright friendly".
 
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BrambleBos

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Been a long, long time since I've played this. I remember it being a bit of a slog to get to any worthwhile content. Is that still the case or am I misremembering?

I don't say this to like bash the devs or anything. By all means I love what they're making (at least at the time I played). But I vaguely remember everything I did play made it feel like the character, and by proxy the player, was constantly blue balled lol
 

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Been a long, long time since I've played this. I remember it being a bit of a slog to get to any worthwhile content. Is that still the case or am I misremembering?

I don't say this to like bash the devs or anything. By all means I love what they're making (at least at the time I played). But I vaguely remember everything I did play made it feel like the character, and by proxy the player, was constantly blue balled lol
If you like reading a few novels for ~3 scenes over the entirety of the game, while dodging buggy minigames, then yes, you remembered correctly. Gallery unlock empty file > "playing" the game though. Be advised
 
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FlamingZelda

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I've heard people complain about this game getting so much support on patreon for such "slow" progress.
The first time I heard this complaint was maybe 2/3 years ago, so this idea's been sitting in my head for a while... And it makes me reflect: Why is it that after 3/4 years of being in the adult visual novel world this is the one that keeps coming back to my mind?

There're a couple of factors.

1. Professionalism.
Aside from the opening scene with Mcgonagall and the slow pacing of a few parts, this game is incredibly professional. The writing is patient and the environments are believable. It doesn't rush toward gratification. It reminds me of old DOS/Windows 95 point and click adventures I've played. Those games have creative lively worlds which are patient and slow in their development. Each new piece you unlock is like a new episode of a cartoon. This makes people who've played the game always want to come back and see what's happened to the world and it's characters. (In particular the area by filtch's office stands out to me)

2. Art
The art in this game is gorgeous. Just seeing Hermione fully clothed in this game gets a rise out of me; her details are so delicate and beautiful -it captures the imagination. The environments are multifaceted and engaging. Each frame is like an old "Find the hidden objects" game you might've played in the 90s or 00s.

3. Potential
Many people who take the time to play this can see the game that could exist after more development. Although this game seems to have begun as a russian "Witch Trainer" knockoff, the aforementioned environments and point and click gameplay give this game the potential to be something much more engrossing and amazing. If they play their cards right, this game could be on trajectory not just to be a nice porn game, but to actually be one of the best pieces of Harry Potter fanfiction ever created. Depending on how they choose to develop the story, this could gain attention/fans outside of the adult game world.

4. Mystic/Denial
Because of the game's slow development progress, players are left chomping at the bit for the next scrap of content. While this may not be a good thing, people want to see the next scene with their favorite girl. Spending hours with the girls keeping their clothes on when the player is already horny draws out the desire and allure toward the game. If Hermoine just got her Ta-ta's out and jerked off the MC in patch number 3 and the game ended at patch number 5 people would remember that Hermione porn fanfic but that'd be it. If you just want to jerk off to some pictures you can google it, but if you want to see the development of these particular characters in this setting then you have to wait for it.

5. Harry potter is a major franchise and many boys had childhood crushes on emma watson.
Self explanatory.

Complaints:

1. Why is development so slow?
Answer: I've been watching from afar so I do not know the details, but it seems that the game has gone through a troubled development cycle. I believe there had been issues with early ideas being too ambitious and not having a clear roadmap forward. I think there might've been an issue with limited artists early on. There may have also been disagreements/infighting on the development team. I do not remember clearly because it was years ago.

2. They're making the least amount of progress they can so they can rake in the cash.
Answer: No one is forcing the patrons to continue being patrons. Those 4,000+ people are doing it because they want to. After the first 2K USD Per month Developers usually don't pressure people to become a patron. Contrary to popular opinion Throwing more money at a project does not make it move faster. Games have finite teams who can work finite hours. Burnout is very real, and structure can be hard to have when working independently. Adding more members to your team doesn't immediately speed things up, it takes time to get new members on board, coordinate everything, and keep things running smoothly. Finding an effective team for game creation is not an easy task.

3. Too much of the game is spent sitting at the desk.
Answer: I agree. This is a product of being a Witch Trainer spinoff (I assume). While it's believable given that Headmaster Dumbledoor is rarely seen anywhere outside of his study, it does not make for an exciting gameplay sequence. I hope TeamSadCrab listens to fan feedback and opts to lean more into point-and-click style gameplay than the current desk-sitting system.

4. There's not enough porn content
Answer: Mostly agree. The version I played (0.8?) was too bloated for being in such and early stage. My Answer to complaint #3 also goes over this.

All of this said. I cannot confirm that there isn't a man in Russia with his cock in one hand and a fat wad of cash in the other staring at a screen that says "Pending Deposit - 30,000$ - Patreon" while jerking off and typing a single line of code every two weeks. (Wait... That sounds an awful lot like Marcus Redblack :unsure:)
 
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