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Warphorror

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It doesn't happen if you choose the other option.
What choice? I didn't have any kind of choice regarding the van situation but I did play a non murder route so maybe it's linked to earliers choices?
The resolution of the attack was underwhelming.
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I know it's not a minutes by minutes slice of life but the whole things left me puzzled by how few information were given to the player. Also the fact it was a cliffhanger gave it too much expectation than if it happened in one episode.
 

MadfireMonkey

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What choice? I didn't have any kind of choice regarding the van situation but I did play a non murder route so maybe it's linked to earliers choices?
The resolution of the attack was underwhelming.
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I know it's not a minutes by minutes slice of life but the whole things left me puzzled by how few information were given to the player. Also the fact it was a cliffhanger gave it too much expectation than if it happened in one episode.
I meant the nightmare it doesn't happen if you just leave I went back and checked after I saw it.
 
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Ciaran8023

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What choice? I didn't have any kind of choice regarding the van situation but I did play a non murder route so maybe it's linked to earliers choices?
The resolution of the attack was underwhelming.
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I know it's not a minutes by minutes slice of life but the whole things left me puzzled by how few information were given to the player. Also the fact it was a cliffhanger gave it too much expectation than if it happened in one episode.
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Also, I'd wager the reason she "ghosted" them for two days was because she was party unconscious and partly interrogated for those two days. It's the most logical explanation.
 

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For the cliffhanger, I can totally believe that Jade would play it off as if the kidnapping was nothing. She's not the type to cry on anyone's shoulder when something traumatic happens (toxic masculinity is apparently a futa trait in this world). And it's clear that things were not as simple as depicted in the flashback. For her to have been gone for 2 days, there must have been more going on that we weren't told - especially if you're on the murder path. Dead bodies have a way of raising red flags, and the van and the bat have her fingerprints and DNA all over them. The villains know she offed their goons, and they have corrupt police on their payroll, you can bet that there's trouble coming from them.
 

Warphorror

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I meant the nightmare it doesn't happen if you just leave I went back and checked after I saw it.
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Also, I'd wager the reason she "ghosted" them for two days was because she was party unconscious and partly interrogated for those two days. It's the most logical explanation.
Since I was on a full non violent when not necessary play I didn't get a choice so I was puzzled on that mention.
Without dead bodies to hide the two days gone has less explanation than the violent murder psycho path where hiding bodies and getting rid of the van would take some times.
 

Ciaran8023

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Since I was on a full non violent when not necessary play I didn't get a choice so I was puzzled on that mention.
Without dead bodies to hide the two days gone has less explanation than the violent murder psycho path where hiding bodies and getting rid of the van would take some times.
I mean, not exactly, if you didn't decide to murder them then she could've still been unconscious + interrogated for that duration before being let go.
There are two unknown variables in terms of time here, how long she was unconscious for and how long the interrogation took. For all we know, the murder variable might have had her not be unconscious nearly as long and thus gave her time to clean up, while the non-violent approach had her be knocked out for longer.
 

Warphorror

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I mean, not exactly, if you didn't decide to murder them then she could've still been unconscious + interrogated for that duration before being let go.
There are two unknown variables in terms of time here, how long she was unconscious for and how long the interrogation took. For all we know, the murder variable might have had her not be unconscious nearly as long and thus gave her time to clean up, while the non-violent approach had her be knocked out for longer.
As far as we know she wasn't extensively interrogated, nothing was shown and my guess was that she was just intimidated. The way the goon talk about 2 mercs girls, with the only description of Vic being known to them, means they don't even know she was part of the attack on the old cop only that they think she was the one that hired the "merc girls". They don't know she is a futa which they would have mentionned if they had patted her a little. She was released with just a warning which reinforced it was a scare tactics : stop meddling and worse won't happen.
My opinion is based on what was shown to me during my playthrough and what was shown is basically not much important happened.
 

Ciaran8023

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As far as we know she wasn't extensively interrogated, nothing was shown and my guess was that she was just intimidated. The way the goon talk about 2 mercs girls, with the only description of Vic being known to them, means they don't even know she was part of the attack on the old cop only that they think she was the one that hired the "merc girls". They don't know she is a futa which they would have mentionned if they had patted her a little. She was released with just a warning which reinforced it was a scare tactics : stop meddling and worse won't happen.
My opinion is based on what was shown to me during my playthrough and what was shown is basically not much important happened.
If you only base things on what was shown then the entire scenario falls apart because no form of interrogation was shown, even though the crook mentioned it, and a mere few seconds of Jade being unconscious was shown, which means that the entire ordeal was 'only' some 10 minutes at best.. except the game explicitely tells us that Jade was unreachable for 2 days.
You can't really only judge things on what you see when the game clearly says that more happened.
 
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ProjectPharaoh

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how is this chapter 8 when it ends where chapter 7 ends? I started a new game and everything.

Edited: Nvm fixed it
 
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Da_Pig

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Simply fantastic game.
Sucks that I can't review yet - guess I need more posts?

Jade is an amazing MC, strong and confident - verging often on cocky - but still more human than most MC's out there, and the same goes for most LI's in the game. Only exception seems to be Sammy rushing through their transformation, but I can easily excuse that, because... Sammy! And their conversation on chapter 8 did help bring it a bit more down to earth.

Little details, like framing of the shots, movements, micro expressions and even the fact that everyone uses their mouth to speak with tiny delays between them thinking and actually parting their lips to speak elevates it way, way more than just the screenshots could ever convey.

A lot of people complain about the 'render' quality, but having dipped my toe in VaM I can say two things:
1) I could never do the magic Kind Nightmares is capable of with Vam. I find posing extremely frustrating, let alone using microexpressions.
2) Vam can be punishing in frame rates, but there are a few tricks I've discovered while trying to run it on my own potato laptop. More in a pm, since I don't want to clutter this thread with technical discussions.
 

Rexermus

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But he let her go right? And something about the option to kill him?
someone else said you had the break Carlos’s partner’s arm when Jade and Viv interrogated him to get the option to kill the attackers. Dude pissed me off so I snapped his arm like a fucking twig so I had the option and took revenge for Carlos. Will be interesting to see how it affects the story in the future
 

js00906

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I feel like the graphics are going from Second Life on low settings to normal Daz3d and back again, which is kinda whip-lashing me. The story has been pretty solid so far so no issues there.
 

MadfireMonkey

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If you only base things on what was shown then the entire scenario falls apart because no form of interrogation was shown, even though the crook mentioned it, and a mere few seconds of Jade being unconscious was shown, which means that the entire ordeal was 'only' some 10 minutes at best.. except the game explicitely tells us that Jade was unreachable for 2 days.
You can't really only judge things on what you see when the game clearly says that more happened.
Yeah it was kind of weird though because he told the person on the phone that he told her all of these different things but then when she mentions one of the things he apparently told her he says oh so you heard that huh. So it makes it seem like he didn't actually say any of that stuff to her and he just knocked her out tied her up and was waiting for her to wake up. I played before the translation patch though so maybe it reads differently now. Either that or she wasn't kidnapped long and was missing for 2 days because she was off being angry about it
 
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