underoath27

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Darryl is a world-class asshole for sure. Valeria does show her backbone and that independence. But she also plays catch with him. Maybe to get him off her. Maybe to play the dangerous flirting game to get the MC's attention. We'll definitely have to wait several months to see where that is going to go. That will be painful.

I would've loved to see her back that ass up and ball-tap him. He rolls off in pain. But again, I am sure she is toying with the MC. Seeking that attention.
I don't think Val will have some kind of relationship with Daryl. You can see that there are scenes where she and MC kiss each other, the scene with her mom, and then, we have the scene on the beach and I guess that it shows she isn't that interested on Daryl even tho she said to Tori she would have sex with him, but if they already had something (like kissing) that beach scene could be different. I believe that she will see who Daryl really is and step back (I hope so, because I hate that guy, even tho I'm not on her path, she seems like a great girl)
 

SerHawkes

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Could the polymance/open relationship pairings on certain paths work out?

A question of questions none the less. Let's look at things a bit shall we?

Layla-Elena-Val: Obviously Elena having and catching feelings for us and going with the whole deny feelings so we don't hurt Layla whose in deep with us will bring some flak and pointless drama, but given the chemisty between them and scenes already, it could work out with Layla being okay with sharing her boyfriend with her possible girlfriend. Similarly with Val, whose very interested in us over fuckwit Zach, it's likely to happen though Laylas relatonship with her needs to grow a little before anything were to happen. As for all four though, we would have to come clean with out feelings for all gals and no fool around with anyone else to have a legit shot for it to happen.

Alexis-Eyrnn-Lexi-Val?: Best possible option would be for Lexi to keep widdling away on Alexis and go down on her while we're balls deep, maybe even kiss her while we're in the zone of pounding her. Once Alexis is kinda open to the idea of being with a lady lover, then Erynn would need worked on. Have her and Alex hash things out, loosen up the whole jealousy between all three of them, agree to terms and such then maybe. Val though, given her 'involvement' is a wildcard factor. It's clear she is interested and yearning for us yet doesn't mind involving herself with us even knowning we are with someone. Maybe she, through Lexi, enters the fold in some manner but unsure that.

In short: It's possible, 100%, just need to open up about shit, hash it all out, go on dates equally with the wifeys, and make the magic happen.

Yet, with Nyx and her sycophant white knight cucky little mods, who are so against the talk of harems and open relationships and what not (got banned from her discord for just having a polite conversation about it), the chances of theses possible happenings are likely at 20%. Which, if any additional pairing doesn't happen other than the Layla/Alexis and whoever to go along with, would truly be a disappointment and a failure on Nyx's part given how shes written theses groupings with such well chemisty and has borderline hinted at the possibility and idea.
 

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Actually, we don't know that for sure, about Elena that is... So far all the Elena action has been happening in front of Layla, so it's not like you're cheating... YET... we'll see how it develops.

Also, on the whole Val thing...



You guys are forgetting one key thing about Val/Darryl... remember that Val is somewhat interested in Darryl and she's been hanging with him and Tori:

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So, it's not like it's completely out of nowhere... she is indeed playing the field and I suppose what happens between them depends on whether you're on her romantic PT or not...

Anyways, Val's behaviour is far from being the issue in the update... but whatevs...
Meh is a cope from Val, having replayed recently. Having low Val points she tells Tori: Darryl and maybe Mc.

With full Val points she said just Darryl and looks at Mc. She always talk bullshit and stare for the prize and kept Tori guessing.
 
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The Valeria stuff this episode is a "canary in the coal mine" thing for me.

1. MC is a cringelord around her all of a sudden. As MC is an avatar for the player, this kind of stuff just makes me not want to play anymore.
2. Some have tried to make arguments for Val's behaviour on the beach. After playing it, I totally see the jealousy angle. However, the problems are largely present in the gym scene. She isn't the same character as the training camp. Has there been growth? If there has it's off screen, and that's a big fucking problem. If a LI changes, we need to see the cause!
3. Why is she interested in hanging out with Daryl and Tori in her solo route when Layla invites her to the all-girl party? She isn't close to them at all the last we saw. She hangs out with MCs crew even when sharing a dorm with Tori and co.

The game is going to go off the rails. Nyx is more interested in manipulating players than she is telling a story and it is starting to show. Some of her discord responses have been arrogant enough that she appears to dislike those playing her game. Not a problem on its own until you compare it to the in-game trolling she is doing. Honestly, I was made wary during the avn_lovers controversy over MC and Iris having sex while under age. She said something like "an author controls the flow of time." No you don't, you fucking idiot. There are external consistencies you need to respect. Basic laws of physics is one of them.

This is why I use the canary analogy. It probably should have been obvious to me in how she blocks routes if you're single in game. I think this game is likely to go off the rails because of the author's arrogance, and the lack of skill (or care) in characterisation, that is creeping into the game.
 

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Yet, with Nyx and her sycophant white knight cucky little mods, who are so against the talk of harems and open relationships and what not (got banned from her discord for just having a polite conversation about it), the chances of theses possible happenings are likely at 20%. Which, if any additional pairing doesn't happen other than the Layla/Alexis and whoever to go along with, would truly be a disappointment and a failure on Nyx's part given how shes written theses groupings with such well chemisty and has borderline hinted at the possibility and idea.
Well, you made valid, intelligent points right up to the last paragraph. There are tons of harem games. That is not what Nyx is writing. I would venture a guess to say that many of her paying supporters would love to have all the girls. Still, she has been clear from the beginning, cheating will not do you any favors. You have to choose a girl here and play that path. So, the possibility of those paths I would say is zero. But I cannot speak for the author. I didn't think she would toy with Val. But we see where that is. So, maybe it is more like a 1% chance in any poly relationship.
 

Joshy92

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So, I have been playing this today.
And so far, here are my girl rankings.

1 - Alexis
2 - Cara
3 - Layla

I like Melissa too, but she doesn't seem to have much content in what I have played so far

I don't think my list will change I'm pretty settled in which girls I like
 

Bombmaster

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So, I have been playing this today.
And so far, here are my girl rankings.

1 - Alexis
2 - Cara
3 - Layla

I like Melissa too, but she doesn't seem to have much content in what I have played so far

I don't think my list will change I'm pretty settled in which girls I like
Bro you are everywhere, just saying.

Also Cara?
That's interesting.

My top 3

Layla
Layla /Elena
Layla/lexi (we can dream, secret path maybe)
 
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Could the polymance/open relationship pairings on certain paths work out?

A question of questions none the less. Let's look at things a bit shall we?

Layla-Elena-Val: Obviously Elena having and catching feelings for us and going with the whole deny feelings so we don't hurt Layla whose in deep with us will bring some flak and pointless drama, but given the chemisty between them and scenes already, it could work out with Layla being okay with sharing her boyfriend with her possible girlfriend. Similarly with Val, whose very interested in us over fuckwit Zach, it's likely to happen though Laylas relatonship with her needs to grow a little before anything were to happen. As for all four though, we would have to come clean with out feelings for all gals and no fool around with anyone else to have a legit shot for it to happen.

Alexis-Eyrnn-Lexi-Val?: Best possible option would be for Lexi to keep widdling away on Alexis and go down on her while we're balls deep, maybe even kiss her while we're in the zone of pounding her. Once Alexis is kinda open to the idea of being with a lady lover, then Erynn would need worked on. Have her and Alex hash things out, loosen up the whole jealousy between all three of them, agree to terms and such then maybe. Val though, given her 'involvement' is a wildcard factor. It's clear she is interested and yearning for us yet doesn't mind involving herself with us even knowning we are with someone. Maybe she, through Lexi, enters the fold in some manner but unsure that.

In short: It's possible, 100%, just need to open up about shit, hash it all out, go on dates equally with the wifeys, and make the magic happen.

Yet, with Nyx and her sycophant white knight cucky little mods, who are so against the talk of harems and open relationships and what not (got banned from her discord for just having a polite conversation about it), the chances of theses possible happenings are likely at 20%. Which, if any additional pairing doesn't happen other than the Layla/Alexis and whoever to go along with, would truly be a disappointment and a failure on Nyx's part given how shes written theses groupings with such well chemisty and has borderline hinted at the possibility and idea.
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I have some questions for the people who are up to date with this game. I want to preface this by saying that I'm not trying to hate on this game but I'm getting the feeling that it might not be for me so I'm looking for some mild help without any concrete spoilers to see if I should even continue playing this.

I'm right at the part where Erynn tells the MC the truth about what happened 5 years ago and literally everyone is keeping some messed up secrets from the MC and they're fucking each other over even worse. I like most of the LI's when it comes to personality but the way their stories seem to be heading just gives me real bad vibes with the exception of the stepsisters and maybe Layla.

If I was the guy in this novel I would honestly be packing my shit and go away as far as I can from all these people as possible. I usually don't mind playing darker games and while this vn isn't even that dark it has just left me feeling kind of icky.
Does the whole drama aspect taper down as the game progresses or does this only continue/get worse as it goes on ?
 
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SerHawkes

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Well, you made valid, intelligent points right up to the last paragraph. There are tons of harem games. That is not what Nyx is writing. I would venture a guess to say that many of her paying supporters would love to have all the girls. Still, she has been clear from the beginning, cheating will not do you any favors. You have to choose a girl here and play that path. So, the possibility of those paths I would say is zero. But I cannot speak for the author. I didn't think she would toy with Val. But we see where that is. So, maybe it is more like a 1% chance in any poly relationship.
At what point did I say or advocate cheating in my statement? I did not. It's clear we have interest in other gals while on routes with Alexis/Layla. Also, we are laughably "conflicted" about our feelings with such. The issue at hand is that Nyx in her writing hints and teases the idea or possibility of maybe possibly having more than one gal with Alexis/Layla, simply by the dialogue and scenes as presented already. The idea and concept is there.

Yet, and I stand by this, if for all that was hinted and teased at for that NOT to happen, then 1. Why bother having in there in the first place if you not gonna deliver? 2. Trolling fans for wanting/hoping for something doesn't do great for possible returning patrons/new patrons who are looking for that type of content. Yes, this is Nyx is game and she can do whatever she wants with it. Same time, if she's teasing possible pairings or the idea of say Layla/Elena - Layla/Val - Alexis/Lexi - Alexis/Erynn, etc. and DOESN'T deliver on it, well thats possibly losing fans/patrons/money all because she wanted to troll or failed to deliver what the fans want or are hoping for. If that is the case and it does happen, Nyx can reap what she sows and risk patronages down the road.
 

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I have some questions for the people who are up to date with this game. I want to preface this by saying that I'm not trying to hate on this game but I'm getting the feeling that it might not be for me so I'm looking for some mild help without any concrete spoilers to see if I should even continue playing this.

I'm right at the part where Erynn tells the MC the truth about what happened 5 years ago and literally everyone is keeping some messed up secrets from the MC and they're fucking each other over even worse. I like most of the LI's when it comes to personality but the way their stories seem to be heading just gives me real bad vibes with the exception of the stepsisters and maybe Layla.

If I was the guy in this novel I would honestly be packing my shit and go away as far as I can from all these people as possible. I usually don't mind playing darker games and while this vn isn't even that dark it has just left me feeling kind of icky.
Does the whole drama aspect taper down as the game progresses or does this only continue/get worse as it goes on ?
This game is kind unique.
All over the place, kinda make sense the name intertwined. The trick is Making this story connect the dots in the end.

Drama is shotgun going in the front bro.

Is like playing gossip girl og with a golden dick protagonist and having teenage drama.
I give a nod for having LIs having more soul than your normal game.
 

Nurikabe

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I have some questions for the people who are up to date with this game. I want to preface this by saying that I'm not trying to hate on this game but I'm getting the feeling that it might not be for me so I'm looking for some mild help without any concrete spoilers to see if I should even continue playing this.

I'm right at the part where Erynn tells the MC the truth about what happened 5 years ago and literally everyone is keeping some messed up secrets from the MC and they're fucking each other over even worse. I like most of the LI's when it comes to personality but the way their stories seem to be heading just gives me real bad vibes with the exception of the stepsisters and maybe Layla.

If I was the guy in this novel I would honestly be packing my shit and go away as far as I can from all these people as possible. I usually don't mind playing darker games and while this vn isn't even that dark it has just left me feeling kind of icky.
Does the whole drama aspect taper down as the game progresses or does this only continue/get worse as it goes on ?
Well, I wouldn't say it is dark. But if you consider this dark and it bothers you up to that point, maybe this isn't for you.

This is nothing against you or your question. I just never understand why people ask that question. Nobody can really answer that for you. And if you played every route in the game, you might have invested a total of two hours of your life. If you are terminally ill and seconds matter, then I would say go spend it doing something you enjoy. Otherwise, why not play and see what you think?
 
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Well, I wouldn't say it is dark. But if you consider this dark and it bothers you up to that point, maybe this isn't for you.

This is nothing against you or your question. I just never understand why people ask that question. Nobody can really answer that for you. And if you played every route in the game, you might have invested a total of two hours of your life. If you are terminally ill and seconds matter, then I would say go spend it doing something you enjoy. Otherwise, why not play and see what you think?
I mean at this point it seems like Eryn is in some kind of unwanted prostitution/escort situation which isn't that dark as far as avn's go but I wouldn't call it light either.
The reason I'm asking is because game has genuinely left me in a bad mood. At the end of the day I'm playing these things for entertainment not to feel bad about it. I do however like the Li's themselves so I wanted to see if there's more to this before I drop it.
I'm also not asking if I should play or not. I'm asking if the story continues to be as dramatic as it is now so I can make the decision if I should continue playing because if it is I know for a fact I won't be.
Really not that hard to figure out if you read my comment properly.
 

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Haha yeah, I get around
There is something I find alluring about Cara

Back to horny jail fren
And having a similar taste maybe just stalk your movement from now on.

I get that, my love for Val is being tested this last patch
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