I haven't seen what Nyx said about this.
I never refused that my dislike towards her effects my judgement on her, I think I said that before also but I also think people who likes her see her with pink glasses and overlook her faults.
I'm not making excuses, i just don't care about it... it's something that happened years ago, when they were waaay too young.
Both could've done things in a slightly different and maybe things would've been better, dwelling on it is dumb and immature, but despite saying "it isn't about the confession" you keep coming back to the well and seemingly getting angry that she didn't do this or that...
is exactly the same with when I say she never tried this method. You have positive bias of her as much as I have negative bias.
Like I said I cannot pinpoint a single thing for that but I think it's the general attitude of her. Though, I don't think it prevents having good discussion about her or anything in general. My points still stand from the first post. Accepting what Erynn said without objective point of view is shortcutting. I believe it's a lie, you are right I cannot prove that because we don't have reference point of the incident but it cannot be proved she is being honest either with same reason.
Both of us can create scenarios in our heads, is that surprising?
There's a difference though, you create various fantasy scenarios in your head as to what she should've done and i created this scenario to "defeat" your scenario that she should've taken a trip to see him, there's a lot of conditions to be met for this trip to be feasible and we have no idea if they were met, i didn't even need to include the "MC-Andres" possible convo, if Andres simply says no because he doesn't want another kid in his house that's it, so many points where the thing could've broken down.
There's a reason why i spend less time creating fantasy scenarios it's because the game so far is on my side on this one.
The game tells us, "she tried her best but she didn't succeed", that's it, both involved parties seem to agree to it... you don't wanna agree to it, you wanna keep finding reasons to justify you being mad at her, "she's lying" (about what?), "she could've tried harder"...
I'm not gonna convince you otherwise if the game outright saying it didn't.
I'll say it's fine that you don't like her, it's less fine that you keep making stuff up to justify your dislike.
All i'm gonna tell you is that Nyx(until she changes her mind again) has moved on from this topic, which suits me because i'm totally over it.
You are blow it out of proportion, she does not need to camp in front him. She is his neighbour, he is also a student so he had to live within rigid routine. She could have stopped him before going to school, after coming back to home. She could have ambushed him at the weekends since he like to sleep longer like she did in the game.
We have in-game example of it, when MC refused to talk to her she came to his house and forced him to talk with her. Why she could have done the same before?
The game doesn't say they never ran into each other, just that he avoided her and acted like a huge asshole, it's difficult to have a conversation with brat sometimes, and it's not responsability of just one side to deal with general assholiness from the other side.
All it must be said is that, she remained sympathetic to him and wanted to reconect with him despite the MC putting barriers to that interaction and making it difficult, she never gave up and said, you know what "fuck him".
What you say prove to my point though. Alexis and MC didn't have any kind of relationship as you say but she went after him to console him and Erynn stayed behind to be with Ethan whether to scold him or giving him secrets or laughing at more memes.
Also MC did not have animosity towards Alexis either. Alexis knew what happened, if Erynn asked her help she could have done it easily.
We don't know what which point Erynn found out about the interaction between Alexis and MC, she surely didn't know anything immediately after... not only this is a "coulda/shoulda" when it's perfectly reasonable that Erynn wants to handle this herself instead of involving her friend who has nothing to do with the problem and as far as she knows doesn't have any kind of relationship with the MC, it sounds like her going "talk to his kid you never talked before for me", instead of trying it herself (like she did).
We have no idea when she learned of their interaction, we have no idea if it would have worked... as far as we know as soon as Alexis brings "you should talk to Erynn" he might turn asshole against her too since at this point in time the MC feels wounded by Erynn, and her siding with Erynn makes her the enemy.
I'm not blaming him either for feeling like he did back then, situation looked bad indeed... I just think now that "mistakes were made" and "it's time to move on".
BTW Alexis justification for being "short on the truth" on the plane is that she was scared that if she revealed her identity and friendship Erynn the MC wouldn't react well and would cut her off... and that's with 5 years after the event to cool off.
And you think it's a good idea to send her in "next week" to talk to this guy...
So she took around 10 minutes scold him about bullying his friend? Also last thing she said to Ethan, it's a secret promise me you won't tell anybody. So at least we are sure that she took her sweet time to tell a secret to Ethan instead of going after MC. So even she knew Ethan was bullying MC, even if he did it in front of her, even if he was making fun of his confession, even if he said he will continue to do that she was still trusting him to give a secret. We all know how Ethan with secrets also.
She stick with Ethan after everything happened with Ethan, she stick with Ethan after he cost her almost all of her friends, she stick with him after he lied about Alexis but she could not do the same for MC. Btw, she said 'after you and I stopped talking he became friendlier, he asked me out but I refused because I never like him in that way' So she not only she stayed touched with him, she also liked him as a friend. You know the guy who bullied her friend so he had to move away. He bullied everry single one of her friends to a point they left her, she still was friends with him. Until he tried to do the same with Alexis. She said to MC Alexis would never sleep with Ethan because she hates him, but when she confronted Alexis, she said just like Ethan situation. Not only she believed Ethan over Alexis but also she said Alexis has slept someone she loved just like Ethan.
Also What about the confrontation with Alexis, she didn't even listen what Alexis was gonna say. Before the confrontation she talk about Ethan Alexis thing, You were expecting MC be more lenient even tough he was 13 at the time, when 20 something Erynn does the same thing with her lifelong friend?
So why she did not touch the topic when MC came back? She had all the time, he was talking to her also. What about then?
Do you remember when this talk took place? When she ditched MC to meet with Ethan and MC saw them hand to hand. When MC told her you laughed at me after I confessed, she acted surprised like she did not know they lost the contact after the confession. Really is Erynn that stupid to not know about it?
Again mistakes were made, she's a nice good natured girl who kept giving Ethan chances, despite the fact that he didn't deserve it.
Naive? Sure. A little idiotic? Perhaps, but sometimes it takes years to grasp just how much of an asshole someone is... she's a nice girl and didn't want to burn him right away, so much so that when he changed his attitude for awhile she bought into it.
Again, that was very naive, should she be burned at the stake because she was naive and dumb? I don't think so...
Still better late than never, that at least now she has a bad "relationship" with him, knows exactly who he is and just wants to be rid of him.
I sincerely hope in real life you are better at "forgive and forget", it's just a skill people need to learn, holding on to grudges is just not a good thing.
People can apologize or rationalize Erynn in regards to her past actions that make her look bad however much they want and it won't change that she'd committed them, plus the fact remains that she didn't change at all in these 5 years. She finds out Lexi and MC are dating and throws a huge bitchy selfish fit, for what exactly?
How does that affect her? MC and she are not dating. MC and she are not even on speaking terms. Haven't been for 5 years. He's made it absolutely clear that he doesn't want anything to do with her after her reaction to his confession of love.
Back on topic, Lexi is under no obligation to let Erynn know MC is in town, that's on him to decide if or when he does it. Nor is Lexi under any obligation to stay away from him, he is not married and is his own agent. He is not in a romantic relationship with Erynn, Erynn has no claim on him, nor any realistic chance to have it in future (nor did Erynn to my knowledge called first dibs on him nor extorted a promise from Lexi to stay away from him).
A good friend would've given a heads up "hey i'm kinda having a thing with your childhood friend, is that ok?" (specially because Alexis suspects Erynn has a thing for him), that was all it would take, instead of lying and deceiving...
This is being a terrible friend, even Alexis will tell you that since she expresses regret for her actions.
It's telling that Erynn is only pissed at Alexis for lying and not at the MC for dating Alexis.
Lexi took the time to run after him and try to console him. Erynn didn't. Instead she stayed with the CuntFace she claims she hates, but whom she kept around even after he ran away all her other friends and lied to her about having sex with Lexi (again, even IF that did happen, what reason would she have to be angry at Lexi? Did she/Erynn have some romantic interest in CuntFace that she lied about?). She didn't even try to speak to him for the rest of the day to explain. So I'm joining the army of those who look at her "explanation" of that event with a disbelieving and skeptical eye and shout "Horse shit!".
Incorrect, both girls went to find and talk to him that day... one had terrible luck and due to a convoluted sequence of events and didn't succeed in her mission.
When Erynn finds out that Alexis has been lying to her about this, she wonders what has she lied about in the past? That feels normal to me, you learn someone is feeding you lies you wonder is this just this time? Or has this been going on for awhile?
We don't know in what context Ethan told Erynn she banged Alexis, it would be interesting to explore it lol.
I also think if your "best friend" was banging your arch nemesis, someone who makes your life a living hell, you'd have the right to feel a little aggrieved.
Despite all this, she still trusts that Alexis told her the truth on this, her reaction at the bar was just spur of the moment thing after being lied to.
At first I thought it's because she was desperately in love with MC, confessed to Lexi her love, asked for first dibs and thus felt betrayed when Lexi took her chance. Which reminds me again just how similar this situation is to the Cuntface/Lexi drama that she believes but that never actually happened. Does that mean Erynn was in love with CuntFace and was just biding her time before doing something with him?
Somewhat close to the truth i think, Erynn doesn't outright "call dibs" but she has had conversations with Alexis about the MC and how much she misses him, Alexis talks like she believes Erynn loves him... it did nothing to stop her, just made her go behind her friends back, lie to her, and again not even a heads up.
lol and yet Layla is my favourite. The only girl I'm not keen on Alexis. Its funny how we all have different preferences.
Layla mostly flies on clear skies, not a lot of discussion on her, most people agree that she's fun to be around and a nice girl.
