VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.12.3] [Nyx]

[Mormont]

I'm just glad that last choice never backfired on us I hate picking between girls but I felt like I had to go back with Layla considering the state of Elena But again it's all worked out as Erynn visits. Now with regard to Alexis not sure what's going on with her but something is definitely off.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

I'm just glad that last choice never backfired on us I hate picking between girls but I felt like I had to go back with Layla considering the state of Elena But again it's all worked out as Erynn visits. Now with regard to Alexis not sure what's going on with her but something is definitely off.

actually you cant go with Layla unless you ignore Erynn.... because she kinda force you to go with her.

 

[Deleted member 596203]

actually you cant go with Layla unless you ignore Erynn.... because she kinda force you to go with her.

You can. You need a certain amount of points with Layla though. Then you'll get the options "Go with Layla/Stay with Erynn"

 

[Mormont]

actually you cant go with Layla unless you ignore Erynn.... because she kinda force you to go with her.

You can. You need a certain amount of points with Layla though. Then you'll get the options "Go with Layla/Stay with Erynn"

Yeah, that's what I had both options, although I was unaware of the whole points thing I guess that will come into play with future content and seeing different scenes and such?

 

[KsChN68]

Yeah, that's what I had both options, although I was unaware of the whole points thing I guess that will come into play with future content and seeing different scenes and such?

You can see this quite well with the Mod of Koga3, there the points are shown as an info on top of the screen:

 

[MrFriendly]

Yeah, that's what I had both options, although I was unaware of the whole points thing I guess that will come into play with future content and seeing different scenes and such?

Yeah, I am not a big fan of points determining whether we get to make a choice. In that scenario I don't see why having a certain number of points with Layla should open an option, there are many reasons to want to take the train: 1) Your new friends all drank and you want Elena to get home safe 2) You haven't seen Erynn in 5 years and don't want to start that conversation while tired and drunk 3) You want to go home and not worry your mom (who stayed up late one night to scold you about drinking, not answering texts, etc).

My point is that the decision doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how Layla feels about the MC but rather how the MC feels about the situation. Hiding the choice behind a Layla point total doesn't make sense - her behavior towards the MC should be determined by points. Her conversation with the MC should be altered if the player doesn't have enough points, maybe she is more rude to him in the conversation after the decision.

 

[Deleted member 596203]

Yeah, I am not a big fan of points determining whether we get to make a choice. In that scenario I don't see why having a certain number of points with Layla should open an option, there are many reasons to want to take the train: 1) Your new friends all drank and you want Elena to get home safe 2) You haven't seen Erynn in 5 years and don't want to start that conversation while tired and drunk 3) You want to go home and not worry your mom (who stayed up late one night to scold you about drinking, not answering texts, etc).

My point is that the decision doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how Layla feels about the MC but rather how the MC feels about the situation. Hiding the choice behind a Layla point total doesn't make sense - her behavior towards the MC should be determined by points. Her conversation with the MC should be altered if the player doesn't have enough points, maybe she is more rude to him in the conversation after the decision.

I can remove the point requirements in this situation since it's a decision between a group of friends and Erynn. If it was just between Layla and Erynn, it would make more sense.
I'll change it for the upcoming 0.3b release on friday.

 

[MrFriendly]

I can remove the point requirements in this situation since it's a decision between a group of friends and Erynn. If it was just between Layla and Erynn, it would make more sense.
I'll change it for the upcoming 0.3b release on friday.

Yeah, if the MC was out on a date with Layla and then encountered Erynn the point requirement would make absolute sense. However, with it being a choice between "go with my new friends I've known for less than a week" or "someone I haven't seen for 5 years and need to reconnect with" it shouldn't rest on the point total of one person. At least that's my two cents.

 

[Grohal]

Yeah, I am not a big fan of points determining whether we get to make a choice. In that scenario I don't see why having a certain number of points with Layla should open an option, there are many reasons to want to take the train: 1) Your new friends all drank and you want Elena to get home safe 2) You haven't seen Erynn in 5 years and don't want to start that conversation while tired and drunk 3) You want to go home and not worry your mom (who stayed up late one night to scold you about drinking, not answering texts, etc).

My point is that the decision doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how Layla feels about the MC but rather how the MC feels about the situation. Hiding the choice behind a Layla point total doesn't make sense - her behavior towards the MC should be determined by points. Her conversation with the MC should be altered if the player doesn't have enough points, maybe she is more rude to him in the conversation after the decision.

I am not against a point system in general. But you have a point (no pun intended) in this case. I agree.

 

[MrFriendly]

I am not against a point system in general. But you have a point (no pun intended) in this case. I agree.

Points for determining the behavior of a character toward the MC makes absolute sense. I am completely in agreement with point systems being used to decide how an NPC (Non-player-character for those who didn't spend most of their puberty playing D&D) will act or react to the player/MC. I don't like having a Point System lock out a decision or option that isn't directly related to a character.

In the "go with friends" or "go with Erynn" situation the MC should receive negative points from Erynn for not going with her or positive points for going with her. If the MC doesn't go with Layla and the group I don't see that the MC should accumulate any points (negative or positive) with the group. Though maybe Layla might get a small negative point since she voiced the opinion that the MC should go with Erynn.

Anyway, in my opinion choices should be separate from points unless the choice is directly related to a character.

 

[leo_grouch]

Liking this one already, maybe you should add something in between days so it doesn't go so quickly. A job, study day or something.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

You can. You need a certain amount of points with Layla though. Then you'll get the options "Go with Layla/Stay with Erynn"

Yeah, that's what I had both options, although I was unaware of the whole points thing I guess that will come into play with future content and seeing different scenes and such?

in my playthrough, I had to ignore Erynn so I get that option with Layla, dunno why, so I ignored her in the bar since if I don't I would be forced to go with her and won't get the choice to go with Layla.

 

[ShadowThrone]

Regarding action and choices being based on points.

The scene on the train where a drunk Elena kisses Layla relies on Layla points only, which seems a bit strange, unless it is something like : we do not normally do this in public, but as I know she likes you, I will let you (and Zach) watch. Even then, how does she know how many Layla points you have, unless Layla tells her absolutely everything.
If Elena has kissed Layla, Elena will then kiss MC if there are enough Elena points (which makes sense)

 

[Wildbill5150]

I'm finding it difficult to be sympathetic towards Erryn ive seen some comments that mc was upset because she turned him down that's not how I read it I felt like he was upset because he confesses his feelings for her and her and her little boyfriend's started making fun of him which made him rebel and distance himself from her and ultimately moving with his father so I feel like mc and Erryn need to have a talk especially with the choice to forgive her at the end of this update bullying someone because of their feelings is wrong and not so easy to forgive they need to talk about it and then I might start to feel something for Erryn especially considering her "job" in the VIP room, there are plenty of cool girls in the game so unless they have a heart to heart she's easily skippable. Just my opinion that being said I'm sure there is more story coming so I can say I am looking forward to getting to know her better I just think that issue needs resolved. Great game all the way around

 

[Johnny Bravo.]

Regarding action and choices being based on points.

The scene on the train where a drunk Elena kisses Layla relies on Layla points only, which seems a bit strange, unless it is something like : we do not normally do this in public, but as I know she likes you, I will let you (and Zach) watch. Even then, how does she know how many Layla points you have, unless Layla tells her absolutely everything.
If Elena has kissed Layla, Elena will then kiss MC if there are enough Elena points (which makes sense)

That could be a possibility or Elena's kiss took her by surprise as you can see Layla gets jealous when she also kisses the main character, but I can see why you think that just by looking at there face expression when it happened.

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

I read a comment here that said Elena could kiss you on the train, and I was surprised that I hadn't seen it yet because she was one of my favourites (along with Alexis and Melissa). Oddly enough, the fact that I liked Elena more than Layla is why I never got kissed by Elena. More specifically, it was because I paid attention in geography class instead of staring at Layla's legs. That left me two points shy of unlocking all of the extra Layla scenes that eventually lead to the kiss scene on the bus.

Elena likes people who study and get good grades, doesn't she? I mean, she was really worried that we weren't going to pull our weight in the chemistry experiment, so I would've thought that us being a bit of a nerd in geography class would work in our favour. But we instead get an odd butterfly effect where focusing on class means that Layla doesn't like us enough to get Elena jealous enough to have Zach tell her that we said she was cute and fun to be around, which means no kiss for us. It's not a big deal or anything, just a bit strange. Hopefully, later updates will have a way of starting things off with Elena that doesn't rely on us first being interested in Layla.

It would be nice if we could be a bit more proactive when dealing with the various love interests in the game, especially if we had options other than stare at their legs or cleavage and hope they find our leering to be flattering instead of creepy. During the scene where Melissa asks if you are single, and then tells you that she knows someone else who is single, I would've loved a chance to hint that we are interested in her by following up our "Is she cute?" question with a similar question that describes her instead of her daughter. Melissa clearly puts a lot of effort into being fit and looking good, so I understand why she could be flattered that an attractive young guy can't help but stare at her, but it doesn't exactly paint our character in the best light.

 

[MrFriendly]

I read a comment here that said Elena could kiss you on the train, and I was surprised that I hadn't seen it yet because she was one of my favourites (along with Alexis and Melissa). Oddly enough, the fact that I liked Elena more than Layla is why I never got kissed by Elena. More specifically, it was because I paid attention in geography class instead of staring at Layla's legs. That left me two points shy of unlocking all of the extra Layla scenes that eventually lead to the kiss scene on the bus.

Elena likes people who study and get good grades, doesn't she? I mean, she was really worried that we weren't going to pull our weight in the chemistry experiment, so I would've thought that us being a bit of a nerd in geography class would work in our favour. But we instead get an odd butterfly effect where focusing on class means that Layla doesn't like us enough to get Elena jealous enough to have Zach tell her that we said she was cute and fun to be around, which means no kiss for us. It's not a big deal or anything, just a bit strange. Hopefully, later updates will have a way of starting things off with Elena that doesn't rely on us first being interested in Layla.

It would be nice if we could be a bit more proactive when dealing with the various love interests in the game, especially if we had options other than stare at their legs or cleavage and hope they find our leering to be flattering instead of creepy. During the scene where Melissa asks if you are single, and then tells you that she knows someone else who is single, I would've loved a chance to hint that we are interested in her by following up our "Is she cute?" question with a similar question that describes her instead of her daughter. Melissa clearly puts a lot of effort into being fit and looking good, so I understand why she could be flattered that an attractive young guy can't help but stare at her, but it doesn't exactly paint our character in the best light.

Yeah, it would be nice if the Elena kiss was only based on Layla liking the MC (maybe 10 or more points) and her own points and didn't require maximum Layla points. However, I can see an argument for the kiss being a petty drunken "make Layla jealous" move and not about Elena's own interests at this point (since she only has a 4 point total).

As to the whole "look closer" issue. I've always had a problem with "peeking" or "leering" being ways to gain points with LI in porn games. It is a problem in these games that, essentially, openly acting like a lewd pervert is rewarding when it should really be the opposite in certain situations. Not looking down your mom's shirt, not looking down your "aunt"/mom's best friend's shirt should be what gets you points. They know that they are "hanging" in view and acting like a gentleman should be what gets you points with them (like turning around when the MC's mom jumps in the pool does). On the other hand, when walking up the stairs behind Alexis to take a shower you should get points for staring at her ass and her having to repeat herself when telling you where the shower is located.

 

[Deleted member 596203]

The Elena route is different compared to the others. I don't know if I can explain it properly..
If you aren't interested in Layla, you'll have a hard time getting Elena to like you.
Elena starts to "see" you the further you go with Layla.. She sees your behaviour around her, how you make Layla feel and realizes she wants that kind of relationship too..
That's why lots of Elena "things" depend on how much points you have with Layla..

About the point system. I started the point system just to code stuff because I didn't know about Statements except for if/else.
I never did any coding before so I'm learning on the go..
Meaning the point system/bad coding will get a complete overhaul at some point (once I know more about the language), with that I can also change the Look closer/peek stuff. That was mostly put in for a bit more "fan-service", which I agree on, doesn't really need to be there.. But I'll figure something out to make it more interesting..

 

[Prokopije]

This seems to be very nice game. Some nice models and no forced girls on MC, so we can choose which one to pursue and which not. Keept it up.

 

[ive_got-problems]

As I mentioned before, the game is not bad. In fact, I like it quite well. I also tried now the other routes a bit, too. And since I do audio mods sometimes and this game has no music yet...
(Here is a quick made Audio Mod from me with a few tracks) -> new Mod with some new features.

August 2, 2020
Small patch for my Mod to version v0.3a:
- added "more cheating" - Mod option for changing game variables
- some minor Mod menu changes

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your mixdrop link for the mod only is the link for the complete compressed version FYI.