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After the scene with Ethan and how he took Erryn's virginity and showed the video to the MC from his phone I would say that this game should have the NTR and rape tag.
Also I hated Zach ever since I first met him hopefully we never become friends again and we don't have to talk to him ever again unless of course the MC is punching him in the face and talking to him by degrading him.
- Mar 9, 2020
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Ethan didnt take Erynn´s virginity, she had sex with her ex-boyfriend.
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Agree...and maybe a "hard violence" tag too for future updates where i bloody cut off Ethans balls and penis and force Zach to eat them up.
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I know this post will probably get a lot of facepalm reactions, but I honestly don't give a shit at this point.
This is a good game, I really like a lot of the characters and the girls look amazing.
I also accept the vision a developer has for his/her game, I don't mean to tell them what to do, I don't mean to pressure them, but I do have my opinion. They are like assholes, everybody has one.
For me, while I am completely fine with a game having no harem route or incest, what really irks me here is that the game most definitely plays with incest as a turn-on and fetish, only to then read that the dev is absolutely against incest, and it will never happen.
This reminds me in a bad way of another game with a similar approach, which I really don't like by now, WVM.
If you as a dev don't want or don't plan for incest in your game, don't fucking play with it, it reeks of a cheap gimmick to either lure in incest fans hoping for more or at the least flipping incest fans the bird.
Which brings me to my second point, no one can blame a dev for writing characters that the players like and want the MC to be with, on the contrary, that is a good thing, and it speaks for the dev's abilities.
But of course it is a disappointment if you are only able to pursue a single girl, while being able to start something with basically EVERY female character you encounter. Again, the way you can keep on balancing all these girls for a long time, hints at an option of there being a route for more than one girl, and again, it is completely shut down by what the dev says.
And here's where I really have some beef with this game. No harem, fine. No incest, fine. But these games are after all wish fulfilment, if you want realism, it's basically impossible to be the big hero or the one all women fall for (and I know there are a few of these games, even though they are not for me). So the game is already not that realistic, plus we live in a society by now, where the concept of polyamory exists and where there are relationships, even families with more than two partners.
To introduce basically dozens of interesting girls, but not give the option to at least have some polyamorous relationships available, seems restrictive, seems to go against the whole idea of games being wish-fulfilment (when everything else about this game clearly is exactly that, all women want the MC, all of them look like models etc..) and definitely seems like a waste of opportunities.
I happen to like harem games, but I don't like the WVM-type of game where all girls just fall for the MC and accept to share him without any problem. I like it when you have a relatively small number of possible candidates and you slowly, carefully have to move towards it and only when you do everything right, you get the girls to accept it.
And to be honest, this is a route that this game could very well have taken. Not with all the possible LIs, but with a few of them at once.
This isn't my game, this is Nyx's game, and she has to tell the story she wants to tell, I accept that, but I do have the right to my opinion that this is such a waste, to really offer only single LI routes, especially when it means you will at the end have to literally make dozens of playthroughs to get to endings with all the different girls.
And while some of you might not believe this, up until now I haven't spent any time reading through this thread and had so far thought that there would at least be a route with several girls ending up in a relationship with the MC at once, BECAUSE that is where the game with all that navigating and careful manoeuvring seemed to lead to.
Yes, there were one or two either or options, but for the most part, you could keep things going with almost all girls so far and for nine chapters in, that is a weird thing to be possible, if there aren't at least a few polyamorous options.
I don't like the idea of hurting so many sweet girls either way, so for me, while I still like this game, I will now wait until it is finished (if that happens) before I go and play through different possible routes. I have no interest in navigating this course until the point of no return, at least not, when I basically have to make singular playthroughs for all options.
If there was at least a system, where you could start each chapter, with set relationships, like in "Where the heart is," that would be different OR if there was a warning before each really important choice that will lead to closed routes or relationships breaking up. Then you could limit the playthroughs to a few up to a decisive moment, and it would be easier to manage and keep track of.
This is a good game, I really like a lot of the characters and the girls look amazing.
I also accept the vision a developer has for his/her game, I don't mean to tell them what to do, I don't mean to pressure them, but I do have my opinion. They are like assholes, everybody has one.
For me, while I am completely fine with a game having no harem route or incest, what really irks me here is that the game most definitely plays with incest as a turn-on and fetish, only to then read that the dev is absolutely against incest, and it will never happen.
This reminds me in a bad way of another game with a similar approach, which I really don't like by now, WVM.
If you as a dev don't want or don't plan for incest in your game, don't fucking play with it, it reeks of a cheap gimmick to either lure in incest fans hoping for more or at the least flipping incest fans the bird.
Which brings me to my second point, no one can blame a dev for writing characters that the players like and want the MC to be with, on the contrary, that is a good thing, and it speaks for the dev's abilities.
But of course it is a disappointment if you are only able to pursue a single girl, while being able to start something with basically EVERY female character you encounter. Again, the way you can keep on balancing all these girls for a long time, hints at an option of there being a route for more than one girl, and again, it is completely shut down by what the dev says.
And here's where I really have some beef with this game. No harem, fine. No incest, fine. But these games are after all wish fulfilment, if you want realism, it's basically impossible to be the big hero or the one all women fall for (and I know there are a few of these games, even though they are not for me). So the game is already not that realistic, plus we live in a society by now, where the concept of polyamory exists and where there are relationships, even families with more than two partners.
To introduce basically dozens of interesting girls, but not give the option to at least have some polyamorous relationships available, seems restrictive, seems to go against the whole idea of games being wish-fulfilment (when everything else about this game clearly is exactly that, all women want the MC, all of them look like models etc..) and definitely seems like a waste of opportunities.
I happen to like harem games, but I don't like the WVM-type of game where all girls just fall for the MC and accept to share him without any problem. I like it when you have a relatively small number of possible candidates and you slowly, carefully have to move towards it and only when you do everything right, you get the girls to accept it.
And to be honest, this is a route that this game could very well have taken. Not with all the possible LIs, but with a few of them at once.
This isn't my game, this is Nyx's game, and she has to tell the story she wants to tell, I accept that, but I do have the right to my opinion that this is such a waste, to really offer only single LI routes, especially when it means you will at the end have to literally make dozens of playthroughs to get to endings with all the different girls.
And while some of you might not believe this, up until now I haven't spent any time reading through this thread and had so far thought that there would at least be a route with several girls ending up in a relationship with the MC at once, BECAUSE that is where the game with all that navigating and careful manoeuvring seemed to lead to.
Yes, there were one or two either or options, but for the most part, you could keep things going with almost all girls so far and for nine chapters in, that is a weird thing to be possible, if there aren't at least a few polyamorous options.
I don't like the idea of hurting so many sweet girls either way, so for me, while I still like this game, I will now wait until it is finished (if that happens) before I go and play through different possible routes. I have no interest in navigating this course until the point of no return, at least not, when I basically have to make singular playthroughs for all options.
If there was at least a system, where you could start each chapter, with set relationships, like in "Where the heart is," that would be different OR if there was a warning before each really important choice that will lead to closed routes or relationships breaking up. Then you could limit the playthroughs to a few up to a decisive moment, and it would be easier to manage and keep track of.
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If the MC has an affair with Zach's sister. Will he do it for revenge or the developer will put the MC to rekindle the friendship with Zach. All this for him to have contact with Zach's sister. I prefer the revenge option.
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Hmmm...reading this makes me wonder if Zach also betrays you when u never try to hit on Val...because i think the one scene with Val right before the end in school when she shows you the tongue Zach comes down the stairs and sees it with making a dissapointing face expression...did someone tried non Val path with keeping up with Zach and get a different ending without him involved?
Even trying to be faithful to the friendship, Zach betrays the MC. He blames the MC for his failure with women.
- Jul 10, 2017
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That guy is a red herring in drama dropping as his whole introduction and activities are mindboggling even to MC,
with all his wrong cues and bad state of mind, let alone us gamers trying to get away from scenes with him.
with all his wrong cues and bad state of mind, let alone us gamers trying to get away from scenes with him.
- Oct 24, 2018
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Short hair Iris is a crime against humanity, it has to be said!
Also Spain without 'S'
Also Spain without 'S'
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- Feb 25, 2022
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Thanks...saved me one more playthrough...
....i dont like Zach but did someone else notice that he is the only male friend in the game ? I think a good male Buddy different than Zach could be a good addition to the game....i like pretty girls but this game is a female overhaul somehow......but yes i agree Zach as male friend was not really a good introduction...i would expect more competition between a good written funny and smart guy and MC with regards to the girls.
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God, could Nyx have made a more annoying character than Zach?
I want my MC to cut his heart out and give it as an offering to Valeria.
I want my MC to cut his heart out and give it as an offering to Valeria.
Some poly between close friends could have been written in, but personally, I would prefer more varied drama rather than resolving things with harem. I want to see some girls being content with being a secret side chick and things of that nature. Maybe some more cat fights to claim the prize lol. Maybe some chances to win back girls that had their routes closed.
This game suffers from the usual take in porn games that you are not really "together" until you have the official talk. Like no matter how close they seem to be getting, you are not doing anything wrong by romancing 12 girls because she is not officially your girlfriend yet, right? Meh.. That works up to an extent, but most games like this with a "good guy" MC that lets you play the field and then pick one suffers from this unnatural "romance."
- Aug 2, 2019
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IKR, past Iris was gorgeous and loads of fun wouldn't mind spending a lot more time with the past Iris.
A love offering
, Valeria deserves it for having to put up with Zach.Honestly I would like to be in a relationship with her just because I like her and don't want to just use her. I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings and I can find other ways of getting back at Zach.
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Dude, there is no incest. Maybe you chose to play your MC with a little pervy side? Peek in on his mom? That does not make any part of this game "play with incest." There is no incest. Did you see an incest tag?
Hurting girls? You only hurt girls if you go after more than one and lie about it. If you choose a girl and stick with her, then everyone else is fine with it. People have complained that they don't get how nice the girls are and they just let you date someone else. Layla, for example, when told the truth takes it very well. Nikki/Cara cry a little but move on. But play like an ass...go for two girls at the same time...that ends poorly — as it should.
Polyamory? Really? This is not a harem game. Did you see a harem tag?
I get it. You are voicing your opinion. You have a very specific type of game you like. Best of luck with that.
The MC is not going to go after Zach's sister. First, it is his friend's sister. Second, she is screwing the coach.
This story is about the MC and Erynn. You chose to protect your groceries over protecting one of the protagonists and main LI? You want to avoid the drama? This is a dramatic story. Ethan is a prick and you will have to fight him. He is the antagonist.
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