VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.1] [Nyx]

[jadepaladin]

Not that he was her first relationship, but I was looking forward to see how Elena would exact revenge on Lucas. Was very, very, disappointed that story just disappeared into the void. Elena can be great at the best of times but I was just imagining the kind of horrors she'd be capable of when she's really pissed.

Lucas is a dropped ball. It's been so long now that if Nyx does anything, it doesn't have the benefit of pacing and will feel out of place. If Lucas stays in the void, his impact on Layla is a lot less significant than the initial story would have led you to believe. I think Lucas should have been one of Ethan's goons when Zach betrays MC. Would make Ethan a more compelling villain as he is taking the effort to actually look into ways to harm the MC, forming a type of alliance with others that seek to get rid of him.

 

[LSC82]

Lucas is a dropped ball. It's been so long now that if Nyx does anything, it doesn't have the benefit of pacing and will feel out of place. If Lucas stays in the void, his impact on Layla is a lot less significant than the initial story would have led you to believe. I think Lucas should have been one of Ethan's goons when Zach betrays MC. Would make Ethan a more compelling villain as he is taking the effort to actually look into ways to harm the MC, forming a type of alliance with others that seek to get rid of him.

Agreed, the main difference between Erynn-Ethan and Layla-Lucas(btw does Nyx like to make her villains names match first letters?) is that Lucas never had any impact into Layla's psyche or her life, Lucas left no scars on Layla, no trauma for her to overcome... and he also hasn't bothered Layla in a loooooong time.
After the last time he stopped her in the park there's the weird hoodie theft that we don't even know if it was actually him(and rich girl Layla just bought another one with minimum fuzz, literally no effect ).
The Layla relationship grew without any concerns about Lucas, there's some mentions of "think about what happened last time" from Elena in the early chapters but it got forgotten fast and things kept moving forward seamlessly.

Maybe Nyx will bring him back to get his ass kicked... could be fun.
But she really dropped the ball by completely forgetting him and not integrating his plot with the Layla relationship blossoming.

 

[cooldevo]

Lucas is a dropped ball. It's been so long now that if Nyx does anything, it doesn't have the benefit of pacing and will feel out of place. If Lucas stays in the void, his impact on Layla is a lot less significant than the initial story would have led you to believe. I think Lucas should have been one of Ethan's goons when Zach betrays MC. Would make Ethan a more compelling villain as he is taking the effort to actually look into ways to harm the MC, forming a type of alliance with others that seek to get rid of him.

That was part of why it was interesting when Lucas accosts MC in the park, that Darryl and his track buddy (did he have a name?) are there also. Was it preplanned? It certainly seems like it as none look or act surprised to see the MC walking by. They both seem to be involved, as when they get off the bench they tell Lucas that he's taken it to far and they are leaving.

From that scene on, I had hope there'd be some "Intertwining" of the villains between Lucas, Darryl, and perhaps even Ethan/Zach.

 

[LSC82]

That was part of why it was interesting when Lucas accosts MC in the park, that Darryl and his track buddy (did he have a name?) are there also. Was it preplanned? It certainly seems like it as none look or act surprised to see the MC walking by. They both seem to be involved, as when they get off the bench they tell Lucas that he's taken it to far and they are leaving.

From that scene on, I had hope there'd be some "Intertwining" of the villains between Lucas, Darryl, and perhaps even Ethan/Zach.

He's called TJ, always takes part in the sprints(and loses).

It seems like Lucas was telling Darryl about the guy who grabbed Layla and the MC happened to walk in.
Darryl recognizes the MC and remembers Tori flirting with him, he backs off when Lucas starts his attack, like he expected to make some threats but not actual assault.

 

[cooldevo]

He's called TJ, always takes part in the sprints(and loses).

It seems like Lucas was telling Darryl about the guy who grabbed Layla and the MC happened to walk in.
Darryl recognizes the MC and remembers Tori flirting with him, he backs off when Lucas starts his attack, like he expected to make some threats but not actual assault.

Right, TJ. Going to have to fire it up again. Forgetting too many small details. Only problem is what LI...

 

[jadepaladin]

That was part of why it was interesting when Lucas accosts MC in the park, that Darryl and his track buddy (did he have a name?) are there also. Was it preplanned? It certainly seems like it as none look or act surprised to see the MC walking by. They both seem to be involved, as when they get off the bench they tell Lucas that he's taken it to far and they are leaving.

From that scene on, I had hope there'd be some "Intertwining" of the villains between Lucas, Darryl, and perhaps even Ethan/Zach.

I honestly don't even see Darryl as a villain anymore. He's clearly threatened by MC coming in and besting him at track, seeing Tori flirt doesn't help things, even if Darryl is a typical jock. All the flaunting around Val is meant to evoke an emotional response from the player, since Val isn't going to do anything with him ever and Darryl isn't the type to assault someone.

I think it would be neat to have a way to slowly win him over, he's never gonna be best friend material. With friends like Zach, who needs enemies?). At the least he should be able to come to a mutual respect over track and I'd love a plot to put Tori in her place (not that type of threesome or anything, just something where Tori gets embarrassed).

 

[cooldevo]

I honestly don't even see Darryl as a villain anymore. He's clearly threatened by MC coming in and besting him at track, seeing Tori flirt doesn't help things, even if Darryl is a typical jock. All the flaunting around Val is meant to evoke an emotional response from the player, since Val isn't going to do anything with him ever and Darryl isn't the type to assault someone.

I think it would be neat to have a way to slowly win him over, he's never gonna be best friend material. With friends like Zach, who needs enemies?). At the least he should be able to come to a mutual respect over track and I'd love a plot to put Tori in her place (not that type of threesome or anything, just something where Tori gets embarrassed).

At the training camp, when you had the option to either Walk Away or Confront Him, after he cut into your race lane, I had initially thought that would be a catalyst moment to establish how the two progress. Walking away would allow for wiggle room and confronting him could make that bridge harder or more difficult to cross. But he overall seems to have petered off into becoming more of a background character since camp.

 

[Maviarab]

I honestly don't even see Darryl as a villain anymore. He's clearly threatened by MC coming in and besting him at track, seeing Tori flirt doesn't help things, even if Darryl is a typical jock. All the flaunting around Val is meant to evoke an emotional response from the player, since Val isn't going to do anything with him ever and Darryl isn't the type to assault someone.

I think it would be neat to have a way to slowly win him over, he's never gonna be best friend material. With friends like Zach, who needs enemies?). At the least he should be able to come to a mutual respect over track and I'd love a plot to put Tori in her place (not that type of threesome or anything, just something where Tori gets embarrassed).

Oh I love putting Tori in her place....

Wait...are we talking about the same thing JP?

 

[LSC82]

Right, TJ. Going to have to fire it up again. Forgetting too many small details. Only problem is what LI...

I'm not sure if his name gets revealed on that particular scene, but later on we see him and Darryl talking, and yeah he's TJ.

I honestly don't even see Darryl as a villain anymore. He's clearly threatened by MC coming in and besting him at track, seeing Tori flirt doesn't help things, even if Darryl is a typical jock. All the flaunting around Val is meant to evoke an emotional response from the player, since Val isn't going to do anything with him ever and Darryl isn't the type to assault someone.

I think it would be neat to have a way to slowly win him over, he's never gonna be best friend material. With friends like Zach, who needs enemies?). At the least he should be able to come to a mutual respect over track and I'd love a plot to put Tori in her place (not that type of threesome or anything, just something where Tori gets embarrassed).

Darryl is a guy who is the number 1, the biggest "badass" in the area feeling threatened by the new guy.
New guy that both can challenge him on track and is popular with the ladies.
From his (typical jock) perspective, it's someone new entering his territory and taking what's his.

He didn't know the MC was going to the beach that day when Val joined his group...
But because the MC always hanging out with stunners pisses him off he shoots that snarky look as he walks by, as if to say "i'm gonna get this one before you do".
Obviously not of course, but that's what he's thinking.

At the training camp, when you had the option to either Walk Away or Confront Him, after he cut into your race lane, I had initially thought that would be a catalyst moment to establish how the two progress. Walking away would allow for wiggle room and confronting him could make that bridge harder or more difficult to cross. But he overall seems to have petered off into becoming more of a background character since camp.

There might be a number of things that influence how our relationship with him progresses, maybe it's pushing him off or not, maybe it's winning or losing, maybe it's tipping him

I do think the 2 big ones are:
Valeria route yes or no?
Tori route yes or no?

Those 2 should have the biggest influence on how he behaves with us.

 

[jadepaladin]

I'm not sure if his name gets revealed on that particular scene, but later on we see him and Darryl talking, and yeah he's TJ.



Darryl is a guy who is the number 1, the biggest "badass" in the area feeling threatened by the new guy.
New guy that both can challenge him on track and is popular with the ladies.
From his (typical jock) perspective, it's someone new entering his territory and taking what's his.

He didn't know the MC was going to the beach that day when Val joined his group...
But because the MC always hanging out with stunners pisses him off he shoots that snarky look as he walks by, as if to say "i'm gonna get this one before you do".
Obviously not of course, but that's what he's thinking.


There might be a number of things that influence how our relationship with him progresses, maybe it's pushing him off or not, maybe it's winning or losing, maybe it's tipping him

I do think the 2 big ones are:
Valeria route yes or no?
Tori route yes or no?

Those 2 should have the biggest influence on how he behaves with us.

You're gonna make me replay to check for flags Nyx could possibly use. I don't see Val routes ultimately mattering, since I think regardless she isn't interested in Darryl that way (waiting for him to pick her up and see what happens). Tori might but I never really thought of Tori as having a route per se. I definitely thought the training camp confrontation could have went somewhere and tipping would have been a nice bonus on Layla's route.

 

[LSC82]

You're gonna make me replay to check for flags Nyx could possibly use. I don't see Val routes ultimately mattering, since I think regardless she isn't interested in Darryl that way (waiting for him to pick her up and see what happens). Tori might but I never really thought of Tori as having a route per se. I definitely thought the training camp confrontation could have went somewhere and tipping would have been a nice bonus on Layla's route.

I know the feeling, must try every possible thing lol.

I think the Val relationship might influence things in unpredictable ways...
He might even end up helping against Ethan if Ethan is a threat to Val, despite Val passing on him.
Or maybe Darryl will further dislike the MC because she passed on him and chose this "loser", could go either way really.

If he decides to help despite knowing he's not getting any rewards, it mark his transition to team good guys.
If he just tells us to "fuck off" it means he'll be a resentful asshole for the rest of the story.

Tori is 10% a romance route, 90% a ticking time bomb lol.
Good odds that he'll have some reaction if/when he finds out you been fucking Tori.
Or maybe he'll just ignore because he got over her.

 

[Maviarab]

I know the feeling, must try every possible thing lol.

I think the Val relationship might influence things in unpredictable ways...
He might even end up helping against Ethan if Ethan is a threat to Val, despite Val passing on him.
Or maybe Darryl will further dislike the MC because she passed on him and chose this "loser", could go either way really.

If he decides to help despite knowing he's not getting any rewards, it mark his transition to team good guys.
If he just tells us to "fuck off" it means he'll be a resentful asshole for the rest of the story.

Tori is 10% a romance route, 90% a ticking time bomb lol.
Good odds that he'll have some reaction if/when he finds out you been fucking Tori.
Or maybe he'll just ignore because he got over her.

Remind me, don't you gain points with Daryl when he delivers pizza? Or am I misremembering...

 

[LSC82]

Remind me, don't you gain points with Daryl when he delivers pizza? Or am I misremembering...

I'm not sure there are Darryl points... maybe there's a flag for tipping him, will have to look.
He reacts in a positive way(as positive as Darryl gets) to it however, that i'm sure.

Edit: Also it's chicken wings not pizza, just to be pedantic lol.

 

[cooldevo]

Remind me, don't you gain points with Daryl when he delivers pizza? Or am I misremembering...

Nope, no change in points there. Seems a lot of scenes from episodes 11+ don't give points where I thought they would. Even some of the date scenes don't give points.

    n "*Ding-dong*"
    mc "{i}(Perfect timing!){/i}"
    scene 11_907 with Dissolve(1)
    mc "..."
    da "..."
    scene 11_908 with Dissolve(1)
    da "Here's your order."
    mc "Thanks."
    menu:
        "Take the food":
            scene 11_909 with Dissolve(1)
            da "That explains a lot!"
        "Tip him":
            scene 11_910 with Dissolve(1)
            mc "Here you go."
            da "It's already paid."
            mc "I know. It's a tip."
            da "I don't need..."
            mc "For fuck's sake. Just take it, Darryl!"
            scene 11_911 with Dissolve(1)
            mc "By the way. Five stars!"
            da "Heh... Shut up!"
    scene 11_912 with Dissolve(1)
    mc "I got the stuff!"
    la "Yay!"

 

[Maviarab]

Nope, no change in points there. Seems a lot of scenes from episodes 11+ don't give points where I thought they would. Even some of the date scenes don't give points.

    n "*Ding-dong*"
    mc "{i}(Perfect timing!){/i}"
    scene 11_907 with Dissolve(1)
    mc "..."
    da "..."
    scene 11_908 with Dissolve(1)
    da "Here's your order."
    mc "Thanks."
    menu:
        "Take the food":
            scene 11_909 with Dissolve(1)
            da "That explains a lot!"
        "Tip him":
            scene 11_910 with Dissolve(1)
            mc "Here you go."
            da "It's already paid."
            mc "I know. It's a tip."
            da "I don't need..."
            mc "For fuck's sake. Just take it, Darryl!"
            scene 11_911 with Dissolve(1)
            mc "By the way. Five stars!"
            da "Heh... Shut up!"
    scene 11_912 with Dissolve(1)
    mc "I got the stuff!"
    la "Yay!"

Hmmm...wonder why the two different variants if it does nothing (no variable). Seems...

 

[Justaphase]

I'm not sure there are Darryl points... maybe there's a flag for tipping him, will have to look.
He reacts in a positive way(as positive as Darryl gets) to it however, that i'm sure.

Edit: Also it's chicken wings not pizza, just to be pedantic lol.

Yup chicken wings, though I prefer the chicken breast that the MC gets later.
And Darryl is a dick to the MC regardless, so no tip for him. He's lucky I didn't get the option to throw a chicken wing at him.

 

[Dessolos]

Yup chicken wings, though I prefer the chicken breast that the MC gets later.
And Darryl is a dick to the MC regardless, so no tip for him. He's lucky I didn't get the option to throw a chicken wing at him.

I actually gave him a tip I felt bad for him there I was like damn maybe if they hash things out I can maybe be friends with him

 

[Justaphase]

I actually gave him a tip I felt bad for him there I was like damn maybe if they hash things out I can maybe be friends with him

I seriously doubt that's possible. Plus he just doesn't seem like a good guy to me, or someone that I would want the MC to be friends with, I sure as hell wouldn't be friends with someone like that. Nathan will be coming to Madison Springs soon so the MC won't need any other friends, Nathan is a real one.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

the three girls i want the most and none of them are currently available. Im probably shacarri's biggest fanboy currently

 

[Justaphase]

the three girls i want the most and none of them are currently available. Im probably shacarri's biggest fanboy currently

She doesn't have short hair though. Though she could be wearing a wig I guess.