VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

[jadepaladin]

There we go again with a wonderful game. Remaking is the shit under the devs. All the games need to go to steam and need a remake in order for more sales. Leaving the development of the game make a real slowdown...... Make the game in one pass great!

Pointless for the players.

Nyx reworks basically an episode at a time in order to make it consistent with the later episodes. It's been going on for the last few updates and honestly doesn't slow the development time all that much, it's always had a somewhat lengthy update cycle. She's going to hit a point eventually where she doesn't have to rework anything.

Steam is still off the table and I'm not even sure why you brought it up. She would have to do even more work to make it Steam acceptable and it's just not an issue at the moment.

 

[Jafo]

I mean not like she is doing the rework full time or something. Just a little bit at a time not that big of a deal unlike someone like Ocean or other dev's. Not even sure if Nyx is trying for steam till the game is completed if at all , and that's if she gets past the high school setting.

I agree. But it takes time to remake.....

 

[cooldevo]

Nyx reworks basically an episode at a time in order to make it consistent with the later episodes. It's been going on for the last few updates and honestly doesn't slow the development time all that much, it's always had a somewhat lengthy update cycle. She's going to hit a point eventually where she doesn't have to rework anything.

Steam is still off the table and I'm not even sure why you brought it up. She would have to do even more work to make it Steam acceptable and it's just not an issue at the moment.

Yeah, that's always something that happens whether a game, story, or even books. You have a vision for the story when you start, and how you want it to develop. But then as you start writing into later chapters, things you envisioned earlier don't work quite like you thought, or something just doesn't sit right and you have to rework it, or you change characters (nikki not being killed off; Val taking a more prominent role, etc.), or the story just organically starts to adapt it's own flow. All of a sudden your earlier chapters aren't quite in sync, incomplete, or missing something that's now pertinent.

If it's done smartly, it shouldn't degrade the development significantly. I'm not averse to tweaking the earlier chapters, again if done smartly. This isn't a complete rewrite or rework of every scene in every chapter, it's fixing conversations or adding a new scene here or there.

For me, it gives me a reason for full replays again. The quality of the LI paths, less so the Ethan story, I never have an issue to replay them because they are so enjoyable.

 

[Jafo]

Nyx reworks basically an episode at a time in order to make it consistent with the later episodes. It's been going on for the last few updates and honestly doesn't slow the development time all that much, it's always had a somewhat lengthy update cycle. She's going to hit a point eventually where she doesn't have to rework anything.

Steam is still off the table and I'm not even sure why you brought it up. She would have to do even more work to make it Steam acceptable and it's just not an issue at the moment.

Left or right, remaking consumes time. Ans this game is heavy branched it will take more time. That was the point I want to make.

 

[jadepaladin]

Yeah, that's always something that happens whether a game, story, or even books. You have a vision for the story when you start, and how you want it to develop. But then as you start writing into later chapters, things you envisioned earlier don't work quite like you thought, or something just doesn't sit right and you have to rework it, or you change characters (nikki not being killed off; Val taking a more prominent role, etc.), or the story just organically starts to adapt it's own flow. All of a sudden your earlier chapters aren't quite in sync, incomplete, or missing something that's now pertinent.

If it's done smartly, it shouldn't degrade the development significantly. I'm not averse to tweaking the earlier chapters, again if done smartly. This isn't a complete rewrite or rework of every scene in every chapter, it's fixing conversations or adding a new scene here or there.

For me, it gives me a reason for full replays again. The quality of the LI paths, less so the Ethan story, I never have an issue to replay them because they are so enjoyable.

I just want Emily's kitchen to be consistent. She goes from upper middle class posh kitchen in the rework to that tacky small yellow kitchen in the old scenes and back to the posh kitchen in later episodes. The school gets a facelift too.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I just want Emily's kitchen to be consistent. She goes from upper middle class posh kitchen in the rework to that tacky small yellow kitchen in the old scenes and back to the posh kitchen in later episodes. The school gets a facelift too.

Kitchen I agree when I saw how it went from modern to my grandmothers kitchen couldn't help but to laugh.

 

[Elduriel]

Nyx reworks basically an episode at a time in order to make it consistent with the later episodes. It's been going on for the last few updates and honestly doesn't slow the development time all that much, it's always had a somewhat lengthy update cycle. She's going to hit a point eventually where she doesn't have to rework anything.

not even full episodes, more like a few scenes at a time. I find this completely fine, doesn't take away barely any dev time and we get some updated visuals. Then you have devs that take ages reworking shit and then wonder why no one supports the game (except Ocean lmao, shit's ridiculous). Say what you will about Nyx and the stupid telenovela plotlines, but she has good work ethic and puts out consistent updates with a good amount of content.

 

[jadepaladin]

not even full episodes, more like a few scenes at a time. I find this completely fine, doesn't take away barely any dev time and we get some updated visuals. Then you have devs that take ages reworking shit and then wonder why no one supports the game (except Ocean lmao, shit's ridiculous). Say what you will about Nyx and the stupid telenovela plotlines, but she has good work ethic and puts out consistent updates with a good amount of content.

That's true, I was exaggerating with the whole episodes thing. As fun as it is to make fun of some of the plots in Intertwined, I like Nyx as a developer and think she's doing better than most that post stuff here.

When you hit a 0.3 and start talking about remakes...

 

[Aiden619]

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Hey everyone,
Work on episode 14 has officially started this week. I had a nice vacation and truthfully, I needed a little break from the game. That's why I started a week later than initially planned. Episode 13 took a lot from me and I just needed to do some other things for a while. But I'm fully charged again and ready to work on more adventures in Madison Springs.
Episode 14 will be on the shorter side (Compared to 13), it will only be 1 in-game day, Monday. The back in school after spring break episode. It will mostly be school scenes with a few after-school scenes to finish the day or something along those lines. Not all characters will be featured in this episode. Especially some that had a lot of screen time in the last episodes. There might be a few short phone calls but that's about it.
I decided to speed some things up, and push them ahead in the story than when they were initially planned. But that also means that some other scenes/stories will be pushed back.
I will also finish up the second day of the episode 3 remake. That will feature a new scene which I couldn't create back then since the assets weren't available at that time. It will be released together with episode 14.
That's about it for now. More to come later.
About the poll results.
Melissa's new hair colour. Blonde won by a large margin. I honestly didn't expect that, especially after what I said on Discord. But hey, less work for me I guess. So Melissa will have her new hair colour on episode 14!
Alexis' costume party. Again by a big margin, Black Widow won. I'm a little bumped out about that. I was hoping Jessica Rabbit would win. Especially since Alexis wore something similar already to the Black Widow outfit. And she never wears dresses, so it would've been something new. But you voted, so Black Widow it is.
Thanks to everyone who participated!
Lastly. Would you like to have another Q&A? That way you have an opportunity to ask me some questions about the story, characters,... Maybe some things that need some explanation or you don't understand why I did or didn't do something. Or just more information about certain characters/scenes... Let me know. I probably will create a poll for it later this week and see if there is enough interest.
Preview pictures for episode 14 will also be back later this week.

What needs to be asked is about Elena.
Wilk there be any progress with her?? Other than confronting MC at the cafe and having a heart to heart convo there has nothing been done of any significance and its high time it gets taken care of.

 

[jadepaladin]

What needs to be asked is about Elena.
Wilk there be any progress with her?? Other than confronting MC at the cafe and having a heart to heart convo there has nothing been done of any significance and its high time it gets taken care of.

I'd be surprised if Elena got skipped. Ep 14 will be the first day back to school and you have classes/lunch with her, she'd be pretty hard to avoid unless she missed a day of school for some reason. The only way I see Elena not happening is if their school does block scheduling and chemistry is a Tuesday/Thursday class but Nyx has never been clear about what the schedule is like (and it's a minor plot point at best).
Considering the Layla/Elena split happened at the tail end of Ep 12, I think it making progress in 14 is acceptable given what all the MC had to do in 13.

 

[Dessolos]

What needs to be asked is about Elena.
Wilk there be any progress with her?? Other than confronting MC at the cafe and having a heart to heart convo there has nothing been done of any significance and its high time it gets taken care of.

I assume there will be maybe a small amount of progress but I wouldn't expect anything big. Since the MC kind of talked to Layla and left right when she was gonna talk. I would assume either another conversation needs to happen first or Layla and go back to talking to each other. But I don't see anything more than Elena forgiving the MC and maybe a kiss at most happening.

 

[cxx]

We need an episode where MC is confronted by Lexi, Erynn, Layla, Elena, Cara, Nikki Valeria, Gabi, Melissa, Iris, Adriana, Miri, Julia, Tori, Lakyen and Rachel's corpse.

those would castrate him.

 

[multihacker]

Ahaha, not again Devs, please!!!
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[cxx]

kiss 1 and other gets angry and kiss 2 then other gets angry, kiss both and both get angry, it's a no win scenario.

 

[multihacker]

kiss 1 and other gets angry and kiss 2 then other gets angry, kiss both and both get angry, it's a no win scenario.

I kissed two, but no one are angry

 

[Dessolos]

I kissed two, but no one are angry

that you know about

 

[cxx]

that you know about

E X A C T L Y !!!

 

[Kame-Sennin]

So, Ximena is a pornstar? or she just did softcore tv series? I find it strange for a tv series to show butt.

 

[jadepaladin]

So, Ximena is a pornstar? or she just did softcore tv series? I find it strange for a tv series to show butt.

Game of Thrones? Californication? Euphoria? Almost any other show on HBO/Cinemax?

It's just a tv show with nudity.

 

[Dessolos]

So, Ximena is a pornstar? or she just did softcore tv series? I find it strange for a tv series to show butt.

I mean nudity in tv depending on the show isn't uncommon or anything. I don't see how that would make her a pornstar or doing softcore unless she is literally showing her pussy. Alot of tv now days will show boobs and ass once in awhile