VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Elduriel]

let's just talk about this beautiful bastard instead

 

[Dessolos]

he is a hunk of a man just look at that beard and he can cook a mean steak

Hell if he cucks me and Erynn ends up having his child id be proud to raise it for him

 

[Elduriel]

Hell if he cucks me and Erynn ends up having his child id be proud to raise it for him

that you Joshy? Hijacking his pc again?

 

[Kaskaze]

let's just talk about this beautiful bastard instead
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We don’t even need to talk about Dylan. It’s obvious he’s the best guy in the whole game.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

We don’t even need to talk about Dylan. It’s obvious he’s the best guy in the whole game.

But does he have the best ass? Pretend I put the zach picture below.

 

[TheDaringGoat]

We don’t even need to talk about Dylan. It’s obvious he’s the best guy in the whole game.

But what about Enzo our resident super comedian? I love his sense of humor

 

[Kaskaze]

But does he have the best ass? Pretend I put the zach picture below.

Have we seen Dylan’s ass? (I’m not sure and can’t remember.) If we have, he definitely wins. If we haven’t, he still definitely wins.

 

[Kaskaze]

But what about Enzo our resident super comedian? I love his sense of humor

Good question — where and what position could Enzo take

 

[Elduriel]

Have we seen Dylan’s ass? (I’m not sure and can’t remember.) If we have, he definitely wins. If we haven’t, he still definitely wins.

Nyx should put him in the banner, market the game towards the gay bros a bit

 

[Dessolos]

Dylan is the MVP of the game because all the scumbag saves the girls are gonna be running into Dylans arms and we are actually helping him build a harem

 

[Kaskaze]

Nyx should put him in the banner, market the game towards the gay bros a bit

You are a genius . I’m not gay, but Dylan’s route sounds incredibly appealing and good. I would definitely try that route.

 

[Elduriel]

You are a genius . I’m not gay, but Dylan’s route sounds incredibly appealing and good. I would definitely try that route.

absolutely. I'd hit that if I leaned that way. I'd also play his route no question. Fuck all that drama with the girls, just go home to the bro, play with the doggo, watch basketball, play games... what's not to like?

 

[ffive]

WTF?
If you want o be a zach fanboy, then be a zach fanboy but stop with the bullshit.

Zach is a bad friend because he puts MC in bad situations. (...)

Literal example of what i've talked about in the very post you're replying to. "MC isn't a good friend." "But but, Zach is the worst!" Some reading comprehension, motherfucker, it's not about Zach. It's about the MC. It doesn't matter whether Zach is a dumb dipshit himself, and no one said he isn't -- but so is Alexis for example, and it doesn't prevent the MC from repeatedly blowing smoke up her ass rather than talk shit about her with his other friends.

But the "well intentioned goof" isn't flying here.

I'm kind of at my wits' end here. I have specifically objected to someone putting in my mouth the notion that Zach has good intentions, and much like with the other poster, it was in the very post you're replying to. And yet, here we are and you'd rather box this strawman.

I'll try to reiterate: i consider Zach to be someone who doesn't have bad intentions but also isn't particularly good person. He's your average "neutral" how one could put it -- largely selfish, but not intentionally malicious. Someone with a mix of positive and negative impulses. Is this now more understandable? Please, say it is. I don't think i can make it more explicit and i don't want to entirely lose the faint remaining hope that people are capable of grasping more nuance than the most blatant good/bad dichotomy. ._.

And he's showing a complete lack of morals when it comes to get what he wants when he goes to Ethan for help to get Valeria... he sees her as something he can acquire.

Yeah, because no guy with an ounce of morals has ever asked their friend to be their wingman and to help them score with a girl. This is something only a person completely lacking morals would do. Please. Could we park those high horses outside...?

And don't try to make this a "but it's different because he asks Ethan!" argument. Zach doesn't know what sort of a person Ethan is. From his PoV he's basically doing the same thing he did with MC -- asked a friend for his help to get a girl. And may i remind, the MC wasn't all, "eeeew get away you freak only a completely amoral person would ask for such thing and think of a girl as something to get!" but instead cooperated, both providing advice and orchestrating a situation during the drinking game where Val could potentially interact with Zach.

MC has at points told Zach to tone down how he approaches girls, listen to them... all to precisely zero results, there's only so much a person can do with a "friend" that isn't receptive to advice and willing to change.

Please refer to my earlier post you've apparently ignored for the counter-argument on this. Doesn't seem like there's any real point in me repeating myself here.

Even the biggest asshole MC(the choice between going manwhore and boring devoted BF is up to each and every player), seems to understand that he's hurting people and has to stop... he just has a hard time saying no to hot girls

The biggest asshole MC never stops himself from getting in those situations in the first place, even though, unlike Zach who is too dense for that, he actually understands that he is/would be hurting people with such behavior. I don't think this sort of MC comes out of it looking any better in comparison. Quite the opposite, because he has no defense of ignorance to hide behind.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Literal example of what i've talked about in the very post you're replying to. "MC isn't a good friend." "But but, Zach is the worst!" Some reading comprehension, motherfucker, it's not about Zach. It's about the MC. It doesn't matter whether Zach is a dumb dipshit himself, and no one said he isn't -- but so is Alexis for example, and it doesn't prevent the MC from repeatedly blowing smoke up her ass rather than talk shit about her with his other friends.

How about you stop being disingenuous and post the whole message you little bitch

No other character in any other sex game on this site gets held to the standards that you're talking about but apparently because the MC isnt teaching Zach manners then he's a bad friend. I guess that makes every MC in every popular game on this site a bad friend since none of them do what you're talking about.

Like I said, you hold this MC to a different standard then you hold any other MC in any of these games, but sure continue cutting off messages cuz you're a zach fanboy and thats the only way you can defend that shit.

 

[klas182]

But does he have the best ass? Pretend I put the zach picture below.

There are already enough games where you can start with male LIs. I would rather stick with the heterosexual version of this game.

 

[soprano31]

But does he have the best ass?

There is only one juicy,delicious ass that is the best to lick,bite and nibble and that can sit on my face right away

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

There is only one juicy,delicious ass that is the best to lick,bite and nibble and that can sit on my face right away
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[LSC82]

I'm kind of at my wits' end here. I have specifically objected to someone putting in my mouth the notion that Zach has good intentions, and much like with the other poster, it was in the very post you're replying to. And yet, here we are and you'd rather box this strawman.

I'll try to reiterate: i consider Zach to be someone who doesn't have bad intentions but also isn't particularly good person. He's your average "neutral" how one could put it -- largely selfish, but not intentionally malicious. Someone with a mix of positive and negative impulses. Is this now more understandable? Please, say it is. I don't think i can make it more explicit and i don't want to entirely lose the faint remaining hope that people are capable of grasping more nuance than the most blatant good/bad dichotomy. ._.

No doubt about it...

He's just your average incel who blames everyone else for his problems and doesn't take an ounce of responsability... completely average, neutral guy.
He's extremely selfish, completely amoral, fully willing to get dirty to get what he wants...

He's not your average, "he's a little bit over the top" guy, he's far beyond that.
It's not neutral when your self interest goes far beyond the respect for others.

Yeah, because no guy with an ounce of morals has ever asked their friend to be their wingman and to help them score with a girl. This is something only a person completely lacking morals would do. Please. Could we park those high horses outside...?

And don't try to make this a "but it's different because he asks Ethan!" argument. Zach doesn't know what sort of a person Ethan is. From his PoV he's basically doing the same thing he did with MC -- asked a friend for his help to get a girl. And may i remind, the MC wasn't all, "eeeew get away you freak only a completely amoral person would ask for such thing and think of a girl as something to get!" but instead cooperated, both providing advice and orchestrating a situation during the drinking game where Val could potentially interact with Zach.

Please refer to my earlier post you've apparently ignored for the counter-argument on this. Doesn't seem like there's any real point in me repeating myself here.

I guess the MC needed to pull off a miracle and drop Layla, Valeria, maybe Erynn and Gabi as bonuses on his lap to be a "solid" friend.
Because if you try to help him, does everything he wants, counsel him to tone down in spots... he still blames the MC.
He's a static character that always blames the MC no matter how good of friend you play, he's always this guy who blames others for his failures...
And you are largely mixing what people say about him here with the MC actions from the game.

And btw IT IS different, Ethan is asking for shit that can hurt random persons livelihoods, like when Zach identifies John, there's only so much the "he's dumb" can forgive.
And recently he completely crossed the line into doing things for revenge.
Not to mention Ethan's lies shouldn't pass the sniff test when he knows Erynn is good friends with MC.

Oh... and you made so many posts on this topic i have frankly no freaking idea which post you are talking about.
You can try to help him, he still blames the MC.

The biggest asshole MC never stops himself from getting in those situations in the first place, even though, unlike Zach who is too dense for that, he actually understands that he is/would be hurting people with such behavior. I don't think this sort of MC comes out of it looking any better in comparison. Quite the opposite, because he has no defense of ignorance to hide behind.

You give the "dumb defense" too much credit for my taste... and not enough to the complete lack of respect and morals.

Again, Zach isn't your average "he can be a little too much at times", those guys when they aren't complete assholes can apologize and say "Sorry, i thought everyone was having fun" when confronted and they feel bad for annoying or harming others. Maybe(with time) they can learn to fine tune their humor...
When the guy that is a "little too much"(being gentle) never listens and chooses blame others, it shows that he is an asshole and completely loses my goodwill.
Zach's first impression is of a guy who tries a bit too much but good natured...
But by now we've seen that he goes FAAAAAAR beyond that, but somehow you are sticking to the first impression.

I'm somehow more understanding of the guy who is split between his ex that he still likes and the new girl he just met.
And if you completely cross every line, at least the hand of Goddess Nyx will punish the MC

 

[dexterousgecko]

Do you guys just skip all the scenes where it's girls that you're not on their path/not interested in, but you still have to hang out with them/bit of forced drama?

I find it difficult not to. How do you do it?

 

[Elduriel]

Do you guys just skip all the scenes where it's girls that you're not on their path/not interested in, but you still have to hang out with them/bit of forced drama?

I find it difficult not to. How do you do it?

we are interested in the overall story, that's how. Not just the sex part. If you skip all that, especially in a game like this, what's the point in even playing it.