VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[3J1E]

So i don't expect Zane or anyone else to cause real problems to a relationship you have active, a little jealousy here and there but nothing more.

The real problem is gonna be girl vs girl, jealous girls, juggling more than one relationship.
Maybe your punishment for failing this task will be seeing your ex-GF walking down the street with a different guy.

For games like this where I'm actually invested in the characters my main interest is running monogamous solo routes with different LIs, no side girls, no threesomes, no sharing. Might be boring to some, but I'm a sucker for the romance! I'm not really concerned at all about Nyx having LIs be tempted away by another man on those routes.

I can see that material being included in cheating routes and think it could work well there to give your choices a consequence, but I don't personally play those routes and people that do might have a different opinion!

The next question is what to do with girls that have been permanently discarded(if there even is such a thing and they won't get second chances) on a given save?
Unlike most devs who have characters that cease to exist off screen, Nyx likes to keep a semi-real universe where characters still exist, still have their schedules, even if you don't care about them...
So i could see Nyx having her characters moving on and finding relationships between now and the endgame, and it doesn't bother me, i think this adds to the semi-real feeling she's going for.

And keep in mind this is just a small "look she's with him now" not watching some random character bend over a LI.

This is the question that I'm torn on, I'm a bit head vs heart on it... In my rational head I like the idea of the game world being realistic and girls having their own lives that move on if the MC isn't interested. Obviously it's fine if a girl you've rejected moves on and dates someone else, they wouldn't be doing anything wrong and it would make the world feel more real.

At the same time, my favourite routes so far are Layla and Erynn. If I'm playing my Layla save and Erynn gets back together with Zane (just as an example) I think it would still feel like a real gut punch because I'm emotionally invested in Erynn from playing her save. She wouldn't have done anything wrong in the game, but it's still not a feeling I'm really after. It's not a dealbreaker, I'd still play it, but on balance I'd rather not have it there and just enjoy playing!

I guess everyone might have their own characters they wouldn't want to see with someone else. Personally I wouldn't care if Melissa or Cara or a side girl got together with someone else because I don't have any real attachment to them, but everyone will have their favourites.

But... there's nothing telling some of the girls can't enter same sex relationships... Iris would be down for sure
Brooke is available... maybe Lakeyin likes to play for both teams as well...

And Laylena, this might be contentious... many here expect a throuple to be possible... them sharing and pleasuring each other...
Personally i think those 2 have done enough that you have to consider them at least bi-curious.

And suddenly a great number of players who didn't want to see the characters entering relationships are changing their minds and demanding detailed scenes of how these girls got together

One thing that annoys me a little about a lot of AVNs is the double standards in terms of LIs messing with other women or other men. A LI getting together with another man would cause riots, but a LI getting together with another woman is hot and exciting. I get that threesomes with two girls are a really common fantasy, but if I had to pick I actually find MMF threesomes hotter in a pure porn sense. For a LI I actually care about I'd always want to be able to avoid any kind of sharing / threesomes whether it's with another man or woman, it makes no difference. Obviously no problem at all with that content being included for those that want it as long as it's avoidable, not judging anything!

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Miles the terrible sprinter?

 

[cxx]

It's the secret path's. Alexis, Nikki and he was saying about maybe adding Cara.

then why not add secret paths for every1

 

[anonnyscouse]

then why not add secret paths for every1

It's not impossible, Erynn secret path would be easy to set up (help her get rid of Ethan while on another route and she falls for you and tries to steal you), likewise Layla could try and win you back if you rejected her for Elena, and Elena could still make a play for you when you're with Layla, Valeria's kept her distance if on Layla's route but could still catch feelings later on.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

It's not impossible, Erynn secret path would be easy to set up (help her get rid of Ethan while on another route and she falls for you and tries to steal you), likewise Layla could try and win you back if you rejected her for Elena, and Elena could still make a play for you when you're with Layla, Valeria's kept her distance if on Layla's route but could still catch feelings later on.

Kind of pointless since alexis is the only li that falls off the map if you arent fucking her. Plenty of options for all the other lis

 

[Dr.TSoni]

likewise Layla could try and win you back if you rejected her for Elena, and Elena could still make a play for you when you're with Layla, Valeria's kept her distance if on Layla's route but could still catch feelings later on.

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[anonnyscouse]

Kind of pointless since alexis is the only li that falls off the map if you arent fucking her. Plenty of options for all the other lis

But then the argument would be that sometimes LIs grow on you, or entered the story later than other characters. This is only thinking in terms of people who play a single blind route through the game of course, but those people exist. For example, anyone on the Layla path would have locked out Valeria before even meeting her, anyone who chose Lexi and didn't want to break up with her locked themselves out of all other options.

I would argue that if Nikki, who enters the story alongside Cara and you're presented with a binary choice if you romanced both of them, gets a secret path as a second chance, then any character is entitled to a secret path.

 

[LSC82]

For games like this where I'm actually invested in the characters my main interest is running monogamous solo routes with different LIs, no side girls, no threesomes, no sharing. Might be boring to some, but I'm a sucker for the romance! I'm not really concerned at all about Nyx having LIs be tempted away by another man on those routes.

I can see that material being included in cheating routes and think it could work well there to give your choices a consequence, but I don't personally play those routes and people that do might have a different opinion!

I enjoy messy routes a whole lot, they are a ton of fun.
The jealousy scenes and rivalry between the girls are absolutely fantastic
I have an easy time dissociating and just going for entertainment.

And yeah seeing the girl you broke up with end up with someone else would be a huge punishment.

This is the question that I'm torn on, I'm a bit head vs heart on it... In my rational head I like the idea of the game world being realistic and girls having their own lives that move on if the MC isn't interested. Obviously it's fine if a girl you've rejected moves on and dates someone else, they wouldn't be doing anything wrong and it would make the world feel more real.

At the same time, my favourite routes so far are Layla and Erynn. If I'm playing my Layla save and Erynn gets back together with Zane (just as an example) I think it would still feel like a real gut punch because I'm emotionally invested in Erynn from playing her save. She wouldn't have done anything wrong in the game, but it's still not a feeling I'm really after. It's not a dealbreaker, I'd still play it, but on balance I'd rather not have it there and just enjoy playing!

I guess everyone might have their own characters they wouldn't want to see with someone else. Personally I wouldn't care if Melissa or Cara or a side girl got together with someone else because I don't have any real attachment to them, but everyone will have their favourites.

I understand, what i just said applies here too, some of us have an easier time dissociating than others.
I can dissociate and get in a different frame of mind easily.

If i'm going for a Layla playthrough and Erynn is simply my friend, i'm cool with her finding someone else...
I always try to get in the mind of what i'm doing in this save.

One thing that annoys me a little about a lot of AVNs is the double standards in terms of LIs messing with other women or other men. A LI getting together with another man would cause riots, but a LI getting together with another woman is hot and exciting. I get that threesomes with two girls are a really common fantasy, but if I had to pick I actually find MMF threesomes hotter in a pure porn sense. For a LI I actually care about I'd always want to be able to avoid any kind of sharing / threesomes whether it's with another man or woman, it makes no difference. Obviously no problem at all with that content being included for those that want it as long as it's avoidable, not judging anything!

That's a double standard that is never going away...
Dude+LI= THE GAME IS RUINED
2 girls= Come on, show a scene of them banging

It's not impossible, Erynn secret path would be easy to set up (help her get rid of Ethan while on another route and she falls for you and tries to steal you), likewise Layla could try and win you back if you rejected her for Elena, and Elena could still make a play for you when you're with Layla, Valeria's kept her distance if on Layla's route but could still catch feelings later on.

Combining Alexis with Erynn kinda is like that already (Iris-Alexis is also similar) it doesn't have the "secret path" status but it largely works like that.
You are dating Alexis, Erynn acts like a good supportive friend... but she's constantly dropping hints that she wants more.
I'm patiently waiting to see when Erynn will finally cross the line...

Maybe at the BBQ

A simple kiss with Erynn on the Alexis combo beats all these ideas of "girl 'x' arrives with a dude"


While i'm at it, ASP didn't really need to be so complex, involve Erynn...
If you kept banging Alexis all the way to the Rock concert, but picked Layla over her... she always has a sad face when she sees MC-Layla together, clearly not over being dumped for her little sister.
She is still hurting and looks like she could do something dumb at any second...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

heres a question, not even a debatable question since its based on opinion. Whats your canon playthrough?
Mine is the alexis path where im slowly but surely about to cheat on her with erryn. I need mess in my game

 

[LSC82]

heres a question, not even a debatable question since its based on opinion. Whats your canon playthrough?
Mine is the alexis path where im slowly but surely about to cheat on her with erryn. I need mess in my game

Your favorite path ranks really high in entertainment value
I love it, as you could tell from my previous post

A little ashamed to admit that despite all my campaining for messy saves my standard... is (mostly)pure Erynn
Maybe with some wrong steps here and there

Other saves i do after that "it's not me anymore", i'm trying to impersonate someone.
Often a terrible boyfriend

 

[Warscared]

this are a few of the interrogatives so far :
who is Val's father?
who is Mira related to?
who is Elena and family related to?
who is Ethan's father?
what happened to Val when Ethan caught up with her on the streets?
who are brook's housemates?
who killed Rachel and who she was related to?
will Mc make Gaby's sister fall in love with running again ?
with Nate visiting the Mc will we be allowed to finally beat the hell out Lucas and Ethan and get rid of those 2 stupid characters ?
will the Dunce Blonde finally allowed the MC to go were so many have been before?
will Elena finally invite us to put the chorizo in the taco ?
will Val and Mc re-enact a scene from romantic telenovela and allowed the Mc to put his Palomo inside her Colchero ? (that's a deep cut , let's see how many get it right)

and finally if the Mc in fact beded Melissa .... will Mc and John compare notes about the experience?

this are a few of the interrogatives so far :
who is Val's father?
an arab sheik that val´s mom met during her sponsored trips to dubai before she got famous!

who is Mira related to?
Laykin younger sister, if you banged lexi and laykin and are on the wrong sister path(Layla), it's going to be an awkward family gathering!


who is Elena and family related to?
Andres!

who is Ethan's father?
that old perv on the beach...

what happened to Val when Ethan caught up with her on the streets?
nothing he tried to play tough got kicked in the nuts ... again....
and he discovered he might have a new kink since he asked her to kick him again!

who are brook's housemates?
was... she is no longer alive!

who killed Rachel and who she was related to?
ethan hired her to pretend to be erynn and he took it too far!
Also she might look young but... but she is Iris mother and John former wife!

will Mc make Gaby's sister fall in love with running again ?
oh he will make her fall and love will be involved... not sure what running you are talking about!

with Nate visiting the Mc will we be allowed to finally beat the hell out Lucas and Ethan and get rid of those 2 stupid characters ?
yes for Lucas and no for Ethan...
i mean Ethan will suspiciously challenge Nathan and the MC to kick his steel balls...
and i mean really challenge them!

will the Dunce Blonde finally allowed the MC to go were so many have been before?
Who?

will Elena finally invite us to put the chorizo in the taco ?
nope but you can lick the enchilada!


will Val and Mc re-enact a scene from romantic telenovela and allowed the Mc to put his Palomo inside her Colchero ? (that's a deep cut , let's see how many get it right)
perdon? non te compreendo!


and finally if the Mc in fact beded Melissa .... will Mc and John compare notes about the experience?
the MC will try and john will just tell him they have to wait and see
if he got her pregnant with a daughter and than they can compare!
in roughly 18 years....

 

[minibaer12]

heres a question, not even a debatable question since its based on opinion. Whats your canon playthrough?
Mine is the alexis path where im slowly but surely about to cheat on her with erryn. I need mess in my game

Well, you already know for me. My favorite route is the ASP. To understand why, you should have played Erynn solo and Alexis solo (or even multi-Erynn vs Alexis) beforehand. Since the ASP is technically an extended Layla route, you learn from the three girls what "ordeal" (in puzzle pieces) Alexis has been through, and why I really feel sorry for Alexis.

 

[Capt_Kirk]

will Val and Mc re-enact a scene from romantic telenovela and allowed the Mc to put his Palomo inside her Colchero ? (that's a deep cut , let's see how many get it right)
perdon? non te compreendo!

like i said !, that's a deep cut (pun intended) , palomo and colchero were the actor and the actress from a famous telenovela called "corazon salvaje"(wild heart) , the reason why i'd used their names is 'cause their names can be used as a slang for genitals .

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Well, you already know for me. My favorite route is the ASP. To understand why, you should have played Erynn solo and Alexis solo (or even multi-Erynn vs Alexis) beforehand. Since the ASP is technically an extended Layla route, you learn from the three girls what "ordeal" (in puzzle pieces) Alexis has been through, and why I really feel sorry for Alexis.

Ive never done the secret route mostly due to laziness but it sounds like it'll be the sloppiest one yet. sister vs sister with sister's bestie antagonizing it? chef's kiss

 

[minibaer12]

Ive never done the secret route mostly due to laziness but it sounds like it'll be the sloppiest one yet. sister vs sister with sister's bestie antagonizing it? chef's kiss

Far from it, the ASP is a tragic story of unrequited love, one that's so close to hand, yet so far away.

I have to honestly admit that I wasn't aware of the depth of Alexis's story at first.

It wasn't until I started the Erynn vs. Alexis multi-route, focusing only on Alexis's story and chronologically arranging the puzzle pieces (not easy to find) scattered throughout the VN. With this knowledge, I tackled the ASP route and understood what a tragic story lies behind it. Now I also understand why Alexis is so aggressive in courting the MC in the solo path, doing absolutely ANYTHING to please the MC, and why Alexis is chronically allergic to every girl!

At this point, I assume the route is heading for disaster. At some point, Alexis will collapse.

 

[Dessolos]

idk I haven't played the ASP in full only did a speed run of it in the past from my pov it's the worst path cause it just needs more love and progression but I do admit it is the most interesting once it actual goes somewhere.

 

[Meiri]

heres a question, not even a debatable question since its based on opinion. Whats your canon playthrough?
Mine is the alexis path where im slowly but surely about to cheat on her with erryn. I need mess in my game

It's probably a normal reconciliation path with Erynn into helping her and falling in love, well that and Emily with Brooke of course

 

[Kaskaze]

heres a question, not even a debatable question since its based on opinion. Whats your canon playthrough?
Mine is the alexis path where im slowly but surely about to cheat on her with erryn. I need mess in my game

I think most people started with Alexis’ route and will slowly end up cheating on her with Erynn. Now the question is — how long will we be able to keep playing around like this?

 

[TonyMurray]

I don't really have a "canon" playthrough, as I have individual saves for everyone, so they are all canon when I'm playing them... My original playthrough though, as probably the closest I'd get to one, is Nikki. Or rather, "Lexi and Layla until they found out and confronted me on my doorstep but did it quietly enough that Nikki couldn't hear, so I was left with her and any other sidegirls who I happened to be able to get away with and who weren't called Tori."

 

[lorkdubo]

idk I haven't played the ASP in full only did a speed run of it in the past from my pov it's the worst path cause it just needs more love and progression but I do admit it is the most interesting once it actual goes somewhere.

The problem lies in that it requires erynn path to be friends, which clash hard with the story and doesn't make sense given some choices you have to make, which doesn't make sense to qualify for the erynn friends path. Erynn is unhealthy in love with MC, and that's cannon.