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HAHAAHHAHAAH :p:D

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its clear what she is thinking right now
i prefered when you did not had a bear that leaft scratches on them while suckling...
guess i can always call that John biker dude and try for a girl this time!
although i should be instead wondering why is it so weird for my 18 year old to still suckle at this age?
guess he never went over that phase! or perhaps girls are better... they have no beards!
although that biker john dude and his blonde beard... perhaps i can skip into the wc and have a go at my new dildo?
 
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I get the feeling that his interaction with Val will be his downfall. If not that, John will beat the shit out of him when he tries to go after John
i'm still wondering about the Ethan / Val encounter , all we've got so far are little hints , like Val coming late to school and that her phone broke the same day.
being this intertwined !, it wouldn't surprised me if Ethan and Val are step relatives .
Val's tells you that her dad never married her mom but it doesn't mean he never got married.
with that revelation the story kills 3 birds with one stone (Erynn's manager , Ethan's father and Val's father)
with Ethan story coming to an end , will it be reveal who killed Rachel and who she was related to?

talking about something else ......
Brooke's mentions 3 roommates , who could they be? , i think that we already met 2 (bartender girl with curly hair working at Dyllan's and bartender girl working at the tiki bar ) they both give you the option to check 'em out , so is there a 3rd bartender we haven;t meet ?:LOL::ROFLMAO:
or will be a disapointment and those roommates will endup being Tory and friends :sick::sick::sick::poop:
 

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i'm still wondering about the Ethan / Val encounter , all we've got so far are little hints , like Val coming late to school and that her phone broke the same day.
being this intertwined !, it wouldn't surprised me if Ethan and Val are step relatives .
Val's tells you that her dad never married her mom but it doesn't mean he never got married.
with that revelation the story kills 3 birds with one stone (Erynn's manager , Ethan's father and Val's father)
with Ethan story coming to an end , will it be reveal who killed Rachel and who she was related to?
Val: tenor.gif
 
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i'm still wondering about the Ethan / Val encounter , all we've got so far are little hints , like Val coming late to school and that her phone broke the same day.
being this intertwined !, it wouldn't surprised me if Ethan and Val are step relatives .
Val's tells you that her dad never married her mom but it doesn't mean he never got married.
with that revelation the story kills 3 birds with one stone (Erynn's manager , Ethan's father and Val's father)
with Ethan story coming to an end , will it be reveal who killed Rachel and who she was related to?
There's also the fact that Ethan told Zach that getting val would be a tough task. Tells me she has some protection somewhere.
 

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There's also the fact that Ethan told Zach that getting val would be a tough task. Tells me she has some protection somewhere.
Ethan only says to Zach that helping him with Val may be an issue if she helped the MC and therefore had a run in with him where he (most likely) threatened her. So he knows that he can't do his whole nice guy routine with her as she's already seen what he's really like.
Otherwise Ethan doesn't even know Val as they never met, so is confident that he can help Zach with her.
 

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Ethan only says to Zach that helping him with Val may be an issue if she helped the MC and therefore had a run in with him where he (most likely) threatened her. So he knows that he can't do his whole nice guy routine with her as she's already seen what he's really like.
Otherwise Ethan doesn't even know Val as they never met, so is confident that he can help Zach with her.
If Val was friends or family with Ethan, and saw him having a fight with one of her new friends, i think she would try talking him down instead of blasting his nuts as the opening move :ROFLMAO:

It's solid fact that they only know each other if she came to help when we had our altercation.
So any family, or old friendship, connection would feel extremely out of place.
 
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Ethan only says to Zach that helping him with Val may be an issue if she helped the MC and therefore had a run in with him where he (most likely) threatened her. So he knows that he can't do his whole nice guy routine with her as she's already seen what he's really like.
Otherwise Ethan doesn't even know Val as they never met, so is confident that he can help Zach with her.
But seriously, how could Ethan even help Zach? In what way? The only ways Ethan could “help” Zach get Val are through violence, kidnapping, or blackmail. The guy doesn’t know any other methods. :unsure:
 
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LSC82

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But seriously, how could Ethan even help Zach? In what way? The only ways Ethan could “help” Zach get Val are through violence, kidnapping, or blackmail. The guy doesn’t know any other methods. :unsure:
He can offer Val (or any pretty girl) a modelling career and good money in return for them becoming his professional whores.
And it has worked for him, we've seen a number of his girls... and he certainly has more like the ones he was at first offering to John or the modelling show he went with Zach.

I think he simply expected this to work on Valeria too(If he did not have any encounters with her).

With the encounter... he knows he just made everything extra difficult.
 
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Kaskaze

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He can offer Val (or any pretty girl) a modelling career and good money in return for them becoming his professional whores.
And it has worked for him, we've seen a number of his girls... and he certainly has more like the ones he was at first offering to John or the modelling show he went with Zach.

I think he simply expected this to work on Valeria too(If he did not have any encounters with her).

With the encounter... he knows he just made everything extra difficult.
Makes sense. But yeah, the way I see it, Val (or at least that’s the impression I get) is 100% into sports — her past career, all the running she does now, and even the clothing sponsors. So would a modeling career really interest her? :unsure:
 

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Makes sense. But yeah, the way I see it, Val (or at least that’s the impression I get) is 100% into sports — her past career, all the running she does now, and even the clothing sponsors. So would a modeling career really interest her? :unsure:
It's not that deep, Ethan doesn't really know her, he expects to be able to convince her with promises of money and fame, like it works with most girls.

The fact that she's primarily into sports isn't a problem, there's a number of sports people(specially women) who made more money working as models than practicing their sports, Sharapova, Kournikova... Val already has a sponsor and presumably is open for more.
So Ethan can still offer her something, it's just that she wouldn't be willing to sell herself for it, because she's a nice girl, with a backbone(but he doesn't know that).

And at the end of the day that's the thing, we know he has zero chance, he doesn't.
 
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It's not that deep, Ethan doesn't really know her, he expects to be able to convince her with promises of money and fame, like it works with most girls.

The fact that she's primarily into sports isn't a problem, there's a number of sports people(specially women) who made more money working as models than practicing their sports, Sharapova, Kournikova... Val already has a sponsor and presumably is open for more.
So Ethan can still offer her something, it's just that she wouldn't be willing to sell herself for it, because she's a nice girl, with a backbone(but he doesn't know that).

And at the end of the day that's the thing, we know he has zero chance, he doesn't.
Exactly. The girls I'm sure also go into it thinking that it's only modelling. He's not going to be like "hey want to become a escort/prostitute for me?" it's no doubt promising the world and then it's one little "favor" after another, until they are giving or selling their bodies. It's a tale as old as time. Creeps taking advantage of girls who are chasing a dream.
 
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Exactly. The girls I'm sure also go into it thinking that it's only modelling. He's not going to be like "hey want to become a escort/prostitute for me?" it's no doubt promising the world and then it's one little "favor" after another, until they are giving or selling their bodies. It's a tale as old as time. Creeps taking advantage of girls who are chasing a dream.
Yes, they sign up to become models...
Next thing you know, turns out there isn't a lot of money, they don't stand out... then Ethan brings up the escorting business and how much they can make for one night.
Next "if you go all the way with him...", it starts snowballing.
 
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Exactly. The girls I'm sure also go into it thinking that it's only modelling. He's not going to be like "hey want to become a escort/prostitute for me?" it's no doubt promising the world and then it's one little "favor" after another, until they are giving or selling their bodies. It's a tale as old as time. Creeps taking advantage of girls who are chasing a dream.
Yes, they sign up to become models...
Next thing you know, turns out there isn't a lot of money, they don't stand out... then Ethan brings up the escorting business and how much they can make for one night.
Next "if you go all the way with him...", it starts snowballing.
I know this scenario from another visual novel where it was portrayed quite drastically. Guys like Ethan, who's really not stupid, promise the girl the moon until he finds the point at which she's willing to sell her soul. Once he finds that point, things go downhill fast for the girl. Usually, drugs follow to make her even more "willing."

Edit: As long as the girl brings in money, everything's fine. But if she causes trouble or doesn't bring in any money, the girl is "disposed of"! Literally!
 
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I know this scenario from another visual novel where it was portrayed quite drastically. Guys like Ethan, who's really not stupid, promise the girl the moon until he finds the point at which she's willing to sell her soul. Once he finds that point, things go downhill fast for the girl. Usually, drugs follow to make her even more "willing."

Edit: As long as the girl brings in money, everything's fine. But if she causes trouble or doesn't bring in any money, the girl is "disposed of"! Literally!
And that could lead on to what happened to Rachel, if the link between her and Ethan is correct.
 
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