VN Ren'Py Isabella - Chasing Shadows [Ch. 4.3] [badtimetales]

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motseer

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You would think that is true, but the mere existence of the option is seen as a "betrayal" by some factions. I know - it makes no logical sense, but it is true nonetheless.
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The problem with an interactive story or game is that, whether the reader/player admits it or not, they have a desire to associate or identify with the protagonist. Events and character behaviors, therefore, become personal - just like IRL. If you add sexual context to those behaviors, the ways in which one can become uncomfortable with them increases exponentially. One might think that limiting the types of events and behaviors that a reader/player will be exposed to in a given story or game would help. It does not. Limiting this self-censoring process (tags) to a single set of acceptable parameters doesn't work either. People hate to think they are being censored! Before I get too far off-topic I'll conclude with this: One can be happy picking the stories they like and rejecting the rest. One can be unhappy about nearly everything. Or, one can be happy because there are so many things to be unhappy with and sometimes folks are just happiest when they have something to bitch about. I may have missed a category or two but I think these three cover about 90% of it. It usually doesn't take long to figure out which category to apply.

I like this story so, I choose to accept it like it is. Later on I may change my mind and find something in it to bitch about. Either way... I'll be happy. Jus' Sayin' :cool:
 

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The problem with an interactive story or game is that, whether the reader/player admits it or not, they have a desire to associate or identify with the protagonist. Events and character behaviors, therefore, become personal - just like IRL. If you add sexual context to those behaviors, the ways in which one can become uncomfortable with them increases exponentially. One might think that limiting the types of events and behaviors that a reader/player will be exposed to in a given story or game would help. It does not. Limiting this self-censoring process (tags) to a single set of acceptable parameters doesn't work either. People hate to think they are being censored! Before I get too far off-topic I'll conclude with this: One can be happy picking the stories they like and rejecting the rest. One can be unhappy about nearly everything. Or, one can be happy because there are so many things to be unhappy with and sometimes folks are just happiest when they have something to bitch about. I may have missed a category or two but I think these three cover about 90% of it. It usually doesn't take long to figure out which category to apply.

I like this story so, I choose to accept it like it is. Later on I may change my mind and find something in it to bitch about. Either way... I'll be happy. Jus' Sayin' :cool:
That's a funny thing, because I had discussed that with a dev friend the last days.

Take your favorite show.
Let's say Supernatural or GOT. Or 24.

The goal is to make the viewer identify with the main character.
You can't change anything. You might dislike some scenes.
Or just a good thriller book.

Now with a game like this, you can change some things and the story.
And people still keep complaining. (Not so much here, but I know other devs threads).

I don't get it.
Don't like it, move on.
Like it, comment, rate and support.
 

motseer

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That's a funny thing, because I had discussed that with a dev friend the last days.

Take your favorite show.
Let's say Supernatural or GOT. Or 24.

The goal is to make the viewer identify with the main character.
You can't change anything. You might dislike some scenes.
Or just a good thriller book.

Now with a game like this, you can change some points.
And people still keep complaining. (Not so much here, but I know other devs threads).

I don't get it.
Don't like it, move on.
Like it, comment, rate and support.
You would think. I never cease to marvel at how many choose to swim upstream. Sometimes you can do it. It may even make you stronger, but sooner or later the current will win... and then you drown.
 
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badtimetales Am I playing wrongly or nothing sexual happens between mc and isabella? Because it's kinda weird since the game has been developing for nearly 3 years and her name is in the game title... I mean let alone the sexual acts, there is not even a french kiss or something... Is it because I'm also going for Alex? If I drop Alex from the get go, is there romance and sexual scenes with Isabella? I thought we can date both of them that's why I go for Alex but if we can date only one, I would go for Isabella since she is my favourite. So far Alex has dozens of scenes with MC while Isabella none in my playthrough
 
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badtimetales Am I playing wrongly or nothing sexual happens between mc and isabella? Because it's kinda weird since the game has been developing for nearly 3 years and her name is in the game title... I mean let alone the sexual acts, there is not even a french kiss or something... Is it because I'm also going for Alex? If I drop Alex from the get go, is there romance and sexual scenes with Isabella? I thought we can date both of them that's why I go for Alex but if we can date only one, I would go for Isabella since she is my favourite. So far Alex has dozens of scenes with MC while Isabella none in my playthrough

You don't fuck the supermodel of the year a few days after you met her.
At least not in my world ;)

The threesome relationship is building up and you will get your Isa scenes "soon" if you are on the Isa only or threesome path (as long as you don't reject her).
 

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badtimetales Am I playing wrongly or nothing sexual happens between mc and isabella? Because it's kinda weird since the game has been developing for nearly 3 years and her name is in the game title... I mean let alone the sexual acts, there is not even a french kiss or something... Is it because I'm also going for Alex? If I drop Alex from the get go, is there romance and sexual scenes with Isabella? I thought we can date both of them that's why I go for Alex but if we can date only one, I would go for Isabella since she is my favourite. So far Alex has dozens of scenes with MC while Isabella none in my playthrough
Not to worry. I feel confident that Alex will reel her in for you - eventually. Remember, good things come to those who wait... and wait... and wait... :p
 
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ImperialD

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That's a funny thing, because I had discussed that with a dev friend the last days.

Take your favorite show.
Let's say Supernatural or GOT. Or 24.

The goal is to make the viewer identify with the main character.
You can't change anything. You might dislike some scenes.
Or just a good thriller book.

Now with a game like this, you can change some things and the story.
And people still keep complaining. (Not so much here, but I know other devs threads).

I don't get it.
Don't like it, move on.
Like it, comment, rate and support.
i like to immerse myself in games .. i think its kinda the whole idea ... like reading a great book .. how it can take you away with it .. if it is a great book ...
anyways i have no issues with the things any dev wants to do ... just if you make me gay .. i'll fucking kill you :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

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The problem with an interactive story or game is that, whether the reader/player admits it or not, they have a desire to associate or identify with the protagonist. Events and character behaviors, therefore, become personal - just like IRL. If you add sexual context to those behaviors, the ways in which one can become uncomfortable with them increases exponentially. One might think that limiting the types of events and behaviors that a reader/player will be exposed to in a given story or game would help. It does not. Limiting this self-censoring process (tags) to a single set of acceptable parameters doesn't work either. People hate to think they are being censored! Before I get too far off-topic I'll conclude with this: One can be happy picking the stories they like and rejecting the rest. One can be unhappy about nearly everything. Or, one can be happy because there are so many things to be unhappy with and sometimes folks are just happiest when they have something to bitch about. I may have missed a category or two but I think these three cover about 90% of it. It usually doesn't take long to figure out which category to apply.

I like this story so, I choose to accept it like it is. Later on I may change my mind and find something in it to bitch about. Either way... I'll be happy. Jus' Sayin' :cool:
I don't know why but I honestly never really been able to connect to a main character in anything from tv to games. Even in these games and I would say these type of games should be easier for one to connect to a MC. Now im not saying it doesn't happen ever but it's super rare for me. That doesn't mean I dont feel anything for these characters. When it comes to AVN's I connect with the LI / side characters more. Which is why I play these games for relationship build first, then LI , story, in that order. Which is why lewds dont matter to me but I enjoy them all the same. Also I think that's a reason why I have a pretty open mind and 90% of sexual fetishes don't really matter to me in these games.

Also I think part of the reason I like this game so much is because of what happened to the MC's fiancé I'm able to connect to him when it comes to those scenes a bit more than normal compared to most games. Even tho i'm not able to fully connect to him. Which is also probably part of the reason I took so an immediate liking to Isabella. Since to me the way this games portrays Isabella there are times she felt like a replacement for the fiancé.
 

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You don't fuck the supermodel of the year a few days after you met her.
At least not in my world ;)

The threesome relationship is building up and you will get your Isa scenes "soon" if you are on the Isa only or threesome path (as long as you don't reject her).
Was there even a reject option for Isa? I certainly didn't see it and I've played the game twice. I only remember one choice which telling the truth about our relationship with Alex and that's about it

But man a game 3 year in development and only 1 kiss on the cheek for mc from Isabella is kinda weird. Like it's not about the game being story driven ( I like story driven games) but game already has many sex scenes. I wish we could at least get peck on the lips (not even needed to be french kiss or something) from the girl who is literally on the game title in 3 year development time... But whatever it's your game it's your story
 
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Sorry, that was necessary for the story, Alex being jealous, did I mention the story?
There's a reason the game is called Isabella, you all just don't know yet ;)
Honestly that was one of my favorite scenes in this game seeing how you showed her being a replacement. It was beautifully done in my opinion.
 
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ok i didn't check that future thingy out .. thanks (y)
Tags should only reflect current content. As of now, there is no lesbianism in the game. On the OP, the initial tags in the SPOILER are what the game has at its start. Those are seldom (if ever) updated, so I would never rely on those unless there's "future tags" on a thread.
 
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Was there even a reject option for Isa? I certainly didn't see it and I've played the game twice. I only remember one choice which telling the truth about our relationship with Alex and that's about it

But man a game 3 year in development and only 1 kiss on the cheek for mc from Isabella is kinda weird. Like it's not about the game being story drien ( I like story driven games) but game already has many sex scenes. I wish we could at least get peck on the lips (not even needed to be french kiss or something) from the girl who is literally on the game title in 3 year development time... But whatever it's your game it's your story

Well, it's two years 2 weeks back since the first release.
Many things have changed since than.
1050Ti -> 2070 -> 3070TI -> 3090TI. Just to mention one thing that REALLY has an influence in the development.
Check the changelog about render counts and you know what I mean.

And without pointing at other games with a good story, no it's quite normal.

MC knows Isa for a few days.
If you are on the throuple route, you need to get Alex on your side, because otherwise she will !§%$KLH%LH. ;)

I'm sorry, I'm trying to do the best sex animations I can do.
But if you are here for a fap, there are better games. ;)
 
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Sorry, that was necessary for the story, Alex being jealous, did I mention the story?
There's a reason the game is called Isabella, you all just don't know yet ;)
Don't you know that real story tellers tell all of the details and expose all the secrets in the first few scenes so that you can just get to indiscriminate and otherwise meaningless sex scenes exploring different partnerings, positions and kinks?

Foreshadowing, building, fleshing, occasionally misdirecting and holding back are for hacks! ;)
 

ImperialD

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Tags should only reflect current content. As of now, there is no lesbianism in the game. On the OP, the initial tags in the SPOILER are what the game has at its start. Those are seldom (if ever) updated, so I would never rely on those unless there's "future tags" on a thread.
yup i remember that ... just forgot to check the future tags thingy ... what i was saying ;)
cause of some of the images at the end of the update ... kinda threw me off a mintue .. then i thought hey why not let the girls have fun with each other .. and of course with me .... err i meant to say my MC .. not like me me ... oh shit nevermind :p
 
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